Psychadelibuds Underground Laboratory
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custom made hood out of orca film,,parabolic all plants veged with lucas , 5 ml a gallon micro and ten a gallon of bloom,
there are multiple strains in the mix, all of them growing perfect, except one that liked a little extra cal mag,
this was just a little grow for testing, only had 8 600 watt lamps, and two 600 watts in veg,
there are multiple strains in the mix, all of them growing perfect, except one that liked a little extra cal mag,
this was just a little grow for testing, only had 8 600 watt lamps, and two 600 watts in veg,
psychadelibud
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Those photos are sweet man. Really shows what you can do without high levels of nitrogen and low levels of nutrients period, in general. I think of it as using a time released fertilizer outdoors. Like osmocote for example. They release very very little bit at a time and keep things nice and bushy and in order.
I am gonna look into that Lucas formula this evening when I get back in town from an auction. I am hoping to win, had my eyeballs on this place for a very long time and never imagined it coming up for sale, yet alone an auction.
@max420thc I enjoy the photos man, its not a problem at all. I know what you mean by keeping the photos to a minimum. I do the same. I am gonna do this newest update on my grow and ill get back with you on all of that this evening brother.
I am gonna look into that Lucas formula this evening when I get back in town from an auction. I am hoping to win, had my eyeballs on this place for a very long time and never imagined it coming up for sale, yet alone an auction.
@max420thc I enjoy the photos man, its not a problem at all. I know what you mean by keeping the photos to a minimum. I do the same. I am gonna do this newest update on my grow and ill get back with you on all of that this evening brother.
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psychadelibud
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Alright fellars.... My latest update has come to appear.
I went ahead and fed all of the girls last night (all but one, who still had wet feet). I pulled the trigger on between a third and a whole full strength of nutes per gallon.
Here is what they had to eat for supper, they're milkshake. Per gallon, of course
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Sensi Grow a&b @ 14 ml
B52 @ 7 ml
Voodoo Juice at @ 7 ml
Cal-Mag @ 4 ml
1 and 1/4 tsp of epsom salts
1/2 tsp of Real Growers Recharge
I was only foiliar feeding to keep them optimal until time to treat what I believe, to of been a nutrient deficiency, specifically cal-mag and nitrogen deficiency being the most pronounced.
Now this is where I am going to come to realisation in knowing if what I have been dealing with was indeed dealing with a nutrient deficiency or something different, depending on how they reaping to treatment. I believe I am correct in my diagnosis, due to the immediate and positive response they had with the "heavier" dosed foiliar feedings and how they showed improvement upon administration. With one gallon of feed however, I did NOT get any run off. Also, once this feeding is consumed I think it will be time that the roots have developed a fuller and more capable root system to handle heavier watering/feedings. So when they are ready to get wet again, I plan on feeding only 1/4 to 1/2 strength nutes with about 30% runoff to kinda clear out the remaining salts in the soil at that tine, while preparing for "flip" mode shortly after. Things are fixing to get exciting, unless however, I over fed. Let's keep our fingers crossed!
I watered and fed only only around the edges of the pot, from the edge of the grow bag to about 3 inches in. Making sure not to saturate the inner most medium of the soil, allowing what I believe will "pull" the roots outwards in search of the food. That is just what I believe and feel personally, that the plants want me to do.
I also gave the first batch of transplanted seedlings a little bit of water close to the edges of the half gallon grow bags they are in. The second batch had not dried out enough, yet, for any more h2o.
Here is how they are looking... And notice the VERY LAST photo.. That is what I have in mind for the back most furthest portion of the room and would be my first time ever doing it.
The canopy is finally filling in the veg area!
The girls... The elites.. The champions!! So close to showing us what they got and can do!
The youngins, chillin' beside and beneath the skirts... Learning, growing, taking it all in. Gonna take them, along with those T5s to the veg room within just a few days and put the girls under the 4 1000 watters to prepare for they're final days, before the show kicks off! Hot damn! Did I mention that I was excited!?!?
And......... Finally, my idea brewing in the of contemplation.
Off to an auction for the day. Will report on the gals this evening!
Thanks to everyone who has supported this grow so far!
I went ahead and fed all of the girls last night (all but one, who still had wet feet). I pulled the trigger on between a third and a whole full strength of nutes per gallon.
Here is what they had to eat for supper, they're milkshake. Per gallon, of course
.Sensi Grow a&b @ 14 ml
B52 @ 7 ml
Voodoo Juice at @ 7 ml
Cal-Mag @ 4 ml
1 and 1/4 tsp of epsom salts
1/2 tsp of Real Growers Recharge
I was only foiliar feeding to keep them optimal until time to treat what I believe, to of been a nutrient deficiency, specifically cal-mag and nitrogen deficiency being the most pronounced.
Now this is where I am going to come to realisation in knowing if what I have been dealing with was indeed dealing with a nutrient deficiency or something different, depending on how they reaping to treatment. I believe I am correct in my diagnosis, due to the immediate and positive response they had with the "heavier" dosed foiliar feedings and how they showed improvement upon administration. With one gallon of feed however, I did NOT get any run off. Also, once this feeding is consumed I think it will be time that the roots have developed a fuller and more capable root system to handle heavier watering/feedings. So when they are ready to get wet again, I plan on feeding only 1/4 to 1/2 strength nutes with about 30% runoff to kinda clear out the remaining salts in the soil at that tine, while preparing for "flip" mode shortly after. Things are fixing to get exciting, unless however, I over fed. Let's keep our fingers crossed!
I watered and fed only only around the edges of the pot, from the edge of the grow bag to about 3 inches in. Making sure not to saturate the inner most medium of the soil, allowing what I believe will "pull" the roots outwards in search of the food. That is just what I believe and feel personally, that the plants want me to do.
I also gave the first batch of transplanted seedlings a little bit of water close to the edges of the half gallon grow bags they are in. The second batch had not dried out enough, yet, for any more h2o.
Here is how they are looking... And notice the VERY LAST photo.. That is what I have in mind for the back most furthest portion of the room and would be my first time ever doing it.
The canopy is finally filling in the veg area!
The girls... The elites.. The champions!! So close to showing us what they got and can do!
The youngins, chillin' beside and beneath the skirts... Learning, growing, taking it all in. Gonna take them, along with those T5s to the veg room within just a few days and put the girls under the 4 1000 watters to prepare for they're final days, before the show kicks off! Hot damn! Did I mention that I was excited!?!?
And......... Finally, my idea brewing in the of contemplation.
Off to an auction for the day. Will report on the gals this evening!
Thanks to everyone who has supported this grow so far!
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psychadelibud
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Oh, and I added a couple Hot Shot No Pest Strips just for safe measure will leave them intact until the first day of flower. Got brand new cartridges for my respirator as well.
Good morning buddy, I hope you got you a property,
Just up drinking a cuppa Joe this morning
psychadelibud
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Morning bud!
Cup of coffee sounds great my man, I have been slacking off the coffee lately and leaning over on a Mountain Dew kick lol. First thing I want as soon as I open my eyes is a cold Mountain Dew and a cigarette.
I drink coffee throughout the day, however. I love my new Keurig, makes a perfect cup everytime!
Auction did not go so well, a guy from up north with big funds took it right from beneath everyone right off the bat, literally. Maybe I can negotiate with him later in the future.
But anyway, I was just stopping by to update the feeding night before last.
psychadelibud
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Morning RIU! Time for a little update on things. I said I would do a follow up after the feeding a couple nights ago. I did not check on them yesterday for fear that I would walk into a room of over watered or burned plants... Not the case at all! Actually they are doing fantastically well! They are on par to exactly what I was intending and wanting to happen. They are all happy and have noticeable growth spurts and even closer node development. New growth look a perfect and I can't really afford to veg them any longer due to height restrictions and impatience.
This means, within just a few days I am going to flip them to 12/12. Fuckin' A man, I am thankful for their turn around!
I will be taking a few cuttings soon and also cleaning up beneath the skirts. I always focus on maximum top growth and like an even canopy as close to perfect as I can possibly get. With huge long solid buds. So we will see how this goes.
On the G glue I will be enforcing different methods on keeping her as short and as stacked as I possibly can. Whichever method gives me the best and preferred results in the end, I will continue to apply that method every run and work it on out from there until I get her dialed in to exactly how I want her. If I discover something that works well, I will share my findings to help other who are growing the glue.
Here is the latest photos of the gals...
This means, within just a few days I am going to flip them to 12/12. Fuckin' A man, I am thankful for their turn around!
I will be taking a few cuttings soon and also cleaning up beneath the skirts. I always focus on maximum top growth and like an even canopy as close to perfect as I can possibly get. With huge long solid buds. So we will see how this goes.
On the G glue I will be enforcing different methods on keeping her as short and as stacked as I possibly can. Whichever method gives me the best and preferred results in the end, I will continue to apply that method every run and work it on out from there until I get her dialed in to exactly how I want her. If I discover something that works well, I will share my findings to help other who are growing the glue.
Here is the latest photos of the gals...
We used to call them carpet baggers
Seeing your net almost makes me want to start preaching about light and air, depth penetration of light and air,
Everyone has their own theories.
It seems everyone is concentrated on width of canopy and not the depth of the canopy . The depth of the canopy is where production comes from.
Everyone has their own theories.
It seems everyone is concentrated on width of canopy and not the depth of the canopy . The depth of the canopy is where production comes from.
ThatSpudGuy
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Looking nice and green buddy
Keystone-grower™
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Things are looking great psych. I just put a few of my bubba cross in the flower cab, seeing as how my other ladies have roughly 4weeks to go.
I don't know about you, but im getting the outdoor bug. Tired of this cold weather and wanting to get my veggies started and in the ground ASAP.
I don't know about you, but im getting the outdoor bug. Tired of this cold weather and wanting to get my veggies started and in the ground ASAP.
I feel I should mention a few things on how to properly scrog for production,
It is best to have all the same plant under the trellis to make the canopy even from the start for proper air and light penetration.
Two layers of trellis are the best to spread the colas apart for air and light penatration , this will also stabilize the cola destressing it .
With only one layer of trellis the upper section of your colas will still use energy to support itself instead of diverting the energy for bud development.
The plant should be viewed as energy.
If a plant loses a branch the energy is still there within the plant and it just diverts the energy from one point of the plant we do not want it, to another point of the plant we do want it.
The idea is to have the plant develop energy next to the terminal stalk where the largest amount of water and nutrients run through.
This is done by trimming all the side branchs off of the terminal stem or stalk and leaving the fan leaves in place to develop the energy ( bud) next to the terminal stalk.
Plants should be set into place with about 30 colas each under a 4x4 area , give or take a few depending on strain .
So if you have 12 2 gallon containers you would start topping them early to make the terminal stalks longer with around 3 stalks each.
When set into place under your light cut all the tops off the plants even with one another so the canopy remains even through out the bloom cycle.
Trim all the side Branch's off of the terminal stem that shoot away from it more then a couple of inches leaving the fan leaves and pinching the top of the terminal stem every time you trim the plant for about five weeks once a week.
By pinching the top of the terminal stem it will force the plant to divert energy to repair the wound, this will force water and nutrients along the terminal stem making the Buds bigger and fatter along this stem forming colas like bats along it, also slowing verticle stretch and bring nodal spacing closer together forming colas that are long and fat.
By trimming this way it allows light penetration deep into the canopy along with lite steady air flow through the canopy will develop the buds deep into the canopy, with a ,,1000 watt around three feet deep into the canopy.
Most of the scrog growers here are filling in the top of the net with buds ( mostly side branch buds) that will not develop very large losing their depth of production near the terminal stem where the real production happens,
It is best to have all the same plant under the trellis to make the canopy even from the start for proper air and light penetration.
Two layers of trellis are the best to spread the colas apart for air and light penatration , this will also stabilize the cola destressing it .
With only one layer of trellis the upper section of your colas will still use energy to support itself instead of diverting the energy for bud development.
The plant should be viewed as energy.
If a plant loses a branch the energy is still there within the plant and it just diverts the energy from one point of the plant we do not want it, to another point of the plant we do want it.
The idea is to have the plant develop energy next to the terminal stalk where the largest amount of water and nutrients run through.
This is done by trimming all the side branchs off of the terminal stem or stalk and leaving the fan leaves in place to develop the energy ( bud) next to the terminal stalk.
Plants should be set into place with about 30 colas each under a 4x4 area , give or take a few depending on strain .
So if you have 12 2 gallon containers you would start topping them early to make the terminal stalks longer with around 3 stalks each.
When set into place under your light cut all the tops off the plants even with one another so the canopy remains even through out the bloom cycle.
Trim all the side Branch's off of the terminal stem that shoot away from it more then a couple of inches leaving the fan leaves and pinching the top of the terminal stem every time you trim the plant for about five weeks once a week.
By pinching the top of the terminal stem it will force the plant to divert energy to repair the wound, this will force water and nutrients along the terminal stem making the Buds bigger and fatter along this stem forming colas like bats along it, also slowing verticle stretch and bring nodal spacing closer together forming colas that are long and fat.
By trimming this way it allows light penetration deep into the canopy along with lite steady air flow through the canopy will develop the buds deep into the canopy, with a ,,1000 watt around three feet deep into the canopy.
Most of the scrog growers here are filling in the top of the net with buds ( mostly side branch buds) that will not develop very large losing their depth of production near the terminal stem where the real production happens,
psychadelibud
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Thank you, I hope to keep them that way until time to fade!