California’s cannabis growers are still staying in the shadows

GoatSoup

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More than a month after California's regulation of marijuana began, only a small number of the tens of thousands of cannabis businesses have joined the system — threatening the state's shift to a regulated market and the promise of a billion-dollar tax windfall.

Less than 1 percent of the state's 68,120 cannabis growers have been licensed, according to a report published Monday by the California Growers Association, the state's largest association of cannabis businesses.

Growers can't meet the cost of complying with regulations, or are prohibited from growing because of local land-use policies, the report says.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/02/californias-cannabis-growers-still-staying-shadows/

Cannabis is primarily grown by small farmers on 2,500 square feet in cultivation, or {0 of an acre. These small growers face the toughest hurdles in complying with regulations, according to the report.

Monterey County, for example, is issuing licenses to high-tech greenhouse growers, mostly owned by well-funded outsiders, on the edge of urban Salinas — but is rebuffing small traditional farmers on parcels in the more remote reaches of the county such as Big Sur and Carmel Valley.
Will the State gain much in taxes if the squeeze the small growers out? Or, will the 'grey market' thrive and cause the 'recreational grow' market to increase!
 

TacoMac

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It's greed on the growers part yet again.

They don't WANT to do things legally. They've been doing it illegally for so long they expect to go on forever doing the same thing. Once they get busted, they'll cry rivers and some people here will post articles about the "innocent grower being fucked with by the man".

They're just like the dumbassed dealers that get busted with $250,000 worth of drugs because they couldn't be bothered to spend 100 dollars to fix their damn tail lights and got pulled over on a routine stop.
 

Justin-case

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It's greed on the growers part yet again.

They don't WANT to do things legally. They've been doing it illegally for so long they expect to go on forever doing the same thing. Once they get busted, they'll cry rivers and some people here will post articles about the "innocent grower being fucked with by the man".

They're just like the dumbassed dealers that get busted with $250,000 worth of drugs because they couldn't be bothered to spend 100 dollars to fix their damn tail lights and got pulled over on a routine stop.
Lol, talko smack
Have you considered that there is a small possibility that many counties in California have denied permits for commercial growers, and in many cases have implemented local ordinances against them?

I know guys like you all think California is this fun loving pot smoking\growing dream land where everyone surfs to get their groceries and votes democratically, but you couldn't be further from the truth. As I explained to London a while back. Much of California is rural and beautiful, but very conservative by nature. Which I would explain in part is from the industries that dominate those economies, logging, transportation, agriculture, federal and state jobs.
 

TacoMac

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Have you considered that there is a small possibility that many counties in California have denied permits for commercial growers, and in many cases have implemented local ordinances against them?
That's not the issue at all. It's not even hinted at in the article or anywhere else.

The simple problem is money. They don't want to modify their standards or pay the licensing fees. That's it. End of story.

Now, are there some that legitimately don't have the money? Yes. I'm sure a good many are in that boat. But you know what? When you're selling to the public, you MUST meet standards. Period.

You can't open a restaurant and serve food to the public with rats, roaches, outdated oil, no fire exit and things of that nature. Growing is no different. If you can't meet the standards required to be able to sell to the public, then you don't need to be growing to sell to the public.

It does not prevent you at all from growing your own shit for your own use.
 

Aeroknow

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That's not the issue at all. It's not even hinted at in the article or anywhere else
So why was this in the article:

“Only 13 of California's 58 counties have passed ordinances to allow and regulate commercial cannabis activity as of February. An additional six counties are likely to pass ordinances in the near future and 14 counties are studying the issue with the intent to decide this year. The survey found that 25 counties ban commercial cannabis activity with no clear plan to reconsider the issue.”




I would go legit if i could. I know many growers who would too. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Why are you a hater?
 

TacoMac

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So why was this in the article:

“Only 13 of California's 58 counties have passed ordinances to allow and regulate commercial cannabis activity as of February. An additional six counties are likely to pass ordinances in the near future and 14 counties are studying the issue with the intent to decide this year. The survey found that 25 counties ban commercial cannabis activity with no clear plan to reconsider the issue.”




I would go legit if i could. I know many growers who would too. You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Why are you a hater?
Opperative word highlighted.

The laws and standards are DIFFERENT for COMMERCIAL growers. Nothing has changed for private growers.

It's the same sort of thing states go through for all licensing of new businesses. It's done with every single business in the U.S. ever created.
 

Aeroknow

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Only 13 of California's 58 counties have passed ordinances to allow and regulate commercial cannabis activity as of February. An additional six counties are likely to pass ordinances in the near future and 14 counties are studying the issue with the intent to decide this year. The survey found that 25 counties ban commercial cannabis activity with no clear plan to reconsider the issue.”
Opperative word highlighted.

The laws and standards are DIFFERENT for COMMERCIAL growers. Nothing has changed for private growers.

It's the same sort of thing states go through for all licensing of new businesses. It's done with every single business in the U.S. ever created.
 
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Aeroknow

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Pal, you're so stupid and ignorant it's laughable.

Do you have any clue at all how hard it is to write legislation? Have you even given any thought at all to that?

No. Of course not. You're a fucking idiot stoner that thinks every Tom, Dick and Harry should just be able to plow under 40 acres and go to town distributing marijuana across the U.S. because, well, you know, that's what you think.

It doesn't work that way.

Check the counties that HAVE passed that legislation, jackass. You'll find that they are, by and large, the biggest and RICHEST counties in California. They have the legal means, manpower and clout to pass legislation a hell of a lot faster than poorer, lower staffed counties do.

What's more, a great many counties are erring on the side of caution. They are still concerned, and rightly so, that passing legislation for COMMERCIAL GROWERS can still get them in hot water with the Federal Government, especially with the Trump administration in power.

They have to be very, very fucking careful what they write into it, what they allow, what they don't allow, and even what verbiage they use. One small mistake from them and Jeff Sessions will be so far up their ass they're not going to know where they leave off and he begins.

But you don't consider any of that because you're a fucking brainless, ignorant stoner that can't see anything outside of his own worthless opinion.
Hey shit for brains hater.

If I want to get permitted to grow legally but my county doesn't allow me to, why is it greed on my part?

Why you such a dick?
 

TacoMac

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If I want to get permitted to grow legally but my county doesn't allow me to, why is it greed on my part?
No you don't. You just want everybody to kiss your ass and feel sorry for you. You've been doing nothing put spouting pure bullshit since you started posting.

You probably wouldn't even qualify for a commercial license. Do you have a 2500 square foot or larger warehouse?

Are you doing it outdoors? If so, on what acreage? What county? You do realize that many counties that don't have legislation are simply deferring to State, don't you?

Or are you so stoned and pissed at the world you didn't bother to check any of that out?

p.s. We all know you live in a shitty one bedroom apartment and grow in your closet. So yeah...you're a real 'serious' candidate for a commercial license.
 

Aeroknow

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You probably wouldn't even qualify for a commercial license
Hey simpleMac,

If you want to grow to sell weed here in California you need a commercial license. Small or large operation, doesn't matter. Just a different permit.

If the county you grow in doesn't/won't issue permits, you cannot sell your shit legally.

p.s. We all know you live in a shitty one bedroom apartment and grow in your closet. So yeah...you're a real 'serious' candidate for a commercial license.
And don't worry about how much bud I grow or how many homes I own ;-)
 

TacoMac

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LOL!

Ok bud. Whatever you say. It's nice to see such rich people hanging out talking smack on a pot forum rather than securing one simple location the next county over and licensing there or having one of his sure to be many attorneys on retainer secure a license through proxy.

But yeah...keep on keeping on, man. LMAO!
 

TacoMac

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Says the guy pretending to be a rich, dozens of homes owning (apparently all in one small location in one county) entrepreneur that spends all of his time spouting stupid shit on a pot forum.

Yeah. I'm the lame one. LOL!
 

Justin-case

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Hey simpleMac,

If you want to grow to sell weed here in California you need a commercial license. Small or large operation, doesn't matter. Just a different permit.

If the county you grow in doesn't/won't issue permits, you cannot sell your shit legally.


And don't worry about how much bud I grow or how many homes I own ;-)
Yep, talko smack is an idiot. You can't even apply for a state permit until receiving one from your county first. I grew up with the stigmas attached to cultivation. It's total bullshit to still have to put up with it after legalization. I guess it may never go away.
 
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