World Of Hempy

Sickomindo

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Heh sick-o....Only your one buddy commented on the taste of your buds...may be he is just ober critical....nobody here is saying your buds are crackling...its nust something that WOULD occur is the buds were not flushed poperly...If they are fine to you and your friend, MAYBE someone else IS just being ober critical....You DO NEED the minimal of 6 days of drying before cure though....Good strong flushing the last cpl weeks should work even WITHOUT cleansing products...You want to see some MAJOR yellowing going on by harvest day...Idealy this should even start to effect the smaller sugar leaves sticking out of the buds....If the plants are still looking PHOTO WORTHY, (green and pretty), the cleanout had not worked....that extent of yellowing is a SURE SIGN, there are no more nutrients available for the plant to use and it basically cannibalizes itselt as a survival mechanism....This dude ROGER is stearing you wrong about stored nutes...Im sure your buds are not bad enuf to snap and crackle but ANYONE WITH EVEN MODERATE grow experience, KNOWS that is causes by stored nutes, should you ever experience it while smoking someones weed....
this link AND DOZENS MORE LIKE IT, explains how stored nutes cause crackling and popping in weed....
That one of the problems with using forums for info, your never sure who knows what they are talking about...A growers 3 worse enemies are spider mites, white flies and grow forums...LOL....I grew my 1st crop in 1979 and have SEEN IT ALL since then....Someone might pull off a cpl decent crops (in their own opinion) and all of of a sudden they are throwing around bogus advise thinking they are a grow master.....I continue to learn because science and technology keeps advancing...BE CAREFUL who is offering advise online and feel free to ask me...If I DONT KNOW, I would NEVER pretend I do and let you know....I certainly would never dish out any BS...YT
Yeah I agree Yankee thanks for your advice I still think I didn't flush enough and or my cure might be suspect. I'm really not sure what the guy above me has beef with
 

Serverchris

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Being a member of rollitup for a short while, I figure I would dive into this thread....reason being, is after 37 yrs of hydroponic growing...grew hempy before in the early 80ies close to 15 yrs before the name Hempy was attached, then drip systems, then ebb and flow, then rockwool (pain in the butt), then into water cultures.....for pure ease of growing, no pumps, chillers, reservoirs, drains, emitters, all that stuff that turns growing into an chore, I HAVE RETURNED TO HEMPY THIS YEAR.....the ONLY drawback compared to water culture systems, is Hempy requires full strength nutes for best success...water culture can be run at 500ppms all day long whereas Hempy during full veg and flower runs 1000-1200ppms...the constant flush in the dry mediums (perlite or perlite with 10-20% vermicite) keeps the systems well flushed and your plants happy....my knly modification, is that the bottom 2-3inches of each 5 gal bucket (what I use) has hydroton or similar ECA, AND an Air Stone....all successful Hempy growers have witnessed the EXPLOSIVE growth when your 1st root strands hit the internal rez...Well, when there is also an air stone, its even crazier...Not necessary for success, but is a cheap and wonderful addition...any little thing I can do for my plants that cumulatively add up to BIGGER gains, I DO IT...other than that, the simplicity is insane since, by design, the Hempy bucket has all the hydroponic concepts covered...for large commercial grows, it is not practical unless its automated with drips, but then its a drip system and not a hempy anymore...but for the average home grower, IT CANT BE BEAT....I prefer the DYNA line of nutes (GREAT single use formulas)...Cpl pics attached of my set up and current grow....5ft by 4ft room with 6 plants in 5 gal buckets..each is really only running 4 gal (vol) of medium so not to make a mess with medium spilling over the tops....container size depends on plant size u expect to have right down to plantlets in 2 litre size containers....hard to see, but u can, each bucket has a pvc drain at the 2 in high hole on the side of the bucket, which dumps into a larger pvc drain pipe which all gravity feeds to a runoff pan...cpl other pics of tops from previous crop...currently running 2 White Widow extm, 2 Cheese Candy, and 2 Incredible Bulks....next crop I have some Bomb Seeds going in (THC BOMB and Bubble Bomb)....Hempy is beatiful thing and IS NOT JUST FOR BEGINNERS...Y.T..
Oh, by the way, that current crop pic was taken on day 30 of flower...one more edit..that 2in. pc of verticle pvc inside each bucket protects my air line an I also WATER straight down that once my roots are established in the bottom rez...1000w light on a mover..View attachment 3971398 View attachment 3971399
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What air stones do you use, I've had trouble keeping them clean just running Dwc so I imagine they would get stopped up worse like that.
 

yankeetransplant

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I use a basic 1 inch barrel style....I use grow rock in the bottom of the bucket just above the 2 inch drains....stone flat on the bottom....then a 4:1 perlite to vermiculite mix......It doesnt need to be fancy..DWC need a LOT MORE attention to your airstones....the plants life depends on it...In a hempy, they are not fully submerged all the time....ths 1st day or so after watering the rez has standing water....this is when it benefits from it....ANYTIME roots are submerged, they appreciate the air....a basic hempy requires allowing Most of the water to ne depleted before adding more...many ppl dont have the patience to wait till they are REALLY READY for rewatering, and it benefits them greatly....There is a myth that a hempy cannot be over watered....Unless your running a very high perlite ratio, they CAN remain to wet....ESPECIALLY true for coco coir users....even a 50/50 mix of coco/Perlite can be too wet if it constantly watered....Same as a 50/50 perlite/vermiculite mix.....just because they may not die from it, they certainly can have roots that are NOT 100% happy.....Its all about the roots!!!!....ANY extra oxygen is good...give them an airy mix and dont let them go bone dry and they will reward you.....This Hempy bucket design will grow plants just as good as ANY hydroponic set up and in many cases, even better.....Even a nervous overwaterer, can use this...the 4:1 mix is too dry to hurt the roots, even if watered too much...AND that addition of the airstone in the rez keeps the roots down their happy...Bubbles also create a lot of little voids in the water, so more water naturally moves toward the airstones....This creates a mixing of any standing water...slow, but it does...benefits, pH stability, oxygenation, and, in turn, happier roots...my stones stay clean for a crop and then I just replace them for the next one...you can boil them, blow air thru them and let them dry out if you want to re-use....And yes, my DWC stones (when I did water culture) got more boogered up than these do...
 

Rakin

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These are bottom fed with tubing hoses with Hydroton on the bottom with Airstones running. What do you think of Hydroton on the bottom instead of perlite? This is my second (Hempy) run and everything seems fine but i read a few things recently that made me second guess that decision and might change
I use river rock in mine outdoors. Helps weight the bucket and I get it for free. I use amended peat and perlite as my medium. This year I added coco to that. I grow some trees in my 5gal hempys
 

yankeetransplant

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Even If I didn't use an airstone, I would still use a hydroton, river rock, expanded slate or anything similar to fill the reservoir area...I have always found the roots like to curl up in a mass right on top of the rock and drops whatever feeder roots it needs down into the rock rez.....the way it piles up on TOP of the rocks, tells me the roots don't like to bunch up IN the very wet rez, but finds and responds nicely to that water table....The biggest root mass sits right on top of the food and water source and eats and drinks as needed....Its a beautiful thing....Dumping your medium after a grow tell a good story about your systems root health....I like to find THICK ropelike roots coming out of the stalks just under the medium level, and a nice white tangled mess piled up on top of the rocks.....as they grow, they drop more and more feeder roots down into the rez....
As you noticed, having that rock rez is a great ballast to keep taller plants upright....Nice trick for hempy plantlet growers, even with a straight drain to waste container...Of course river rock is a lot heavier than hydroton or other Expanded rock and I found they both work as well as the other...Had one of my best crops ever (about 3 crops ago) had about dime size river rock in the bottom....In a Hempy bucket, its having some type of rock rez and not about the type of rock.....My medium is ALWAYS 4:1 Perlite to Vermiculite...thats a pretty dry hydroponic mix, so those roots seek out the source and pile up....I hear a lot of comments about airstones and rock reservoirs don't help, BUT THEY DO....I have done it both ways and it works better....I'm not saying a standard Hempy bucket wont grow good meds, cause it will....ANY TIME I can do something that I know improves the quality, I DO IT!!!.....lots of little improvements add up to BIG gains and better quality.....YT
 

Rakin

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Last years hempy garden in July.ED5C0F5D-5615-4022-930F-13738FA63CC7.jpeg


Last years jalapeño hempy in November before going dormant for the winter. Got 7’ tall! I was harvesting over a pound of jalapeños every 2 weeks in the peak of the season.D7095A53-5074-421B-BC26-187A08942671.jpeg

Jalapeño hempy coming back to life a couple of days ago after being kept dormant over the winter in the garage!
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yankeetransplant

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Very cool....Cant argue with results like that....A Hempy bucket is a nice shortcut to great results WITHOUT the compromise of quality....since 1979, I have tried EVERY hydroponic system that came out...now 39 yrs later, I grow exclusively Hempy....There are SO MANY way, but for cost, simplicity, ease of use, Hempy buckets rule....YT
 

Rakin

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Very cool....Cant argue with results like that....A Hempy bucket is a nice shortcut to great results WITHOUT the compromise of quality....since 1979, I have tried EVERY hydroponic system that came out...now 39 yrs later, I grow exclusively Hempy....There are SO MANY way, but for cost, simplicity, ease of use, Hempy buckets rule....YT
I have to agree. And so many different mediums and containers can be used. I’ve used 20oz pop bottles all the way to 5gal buckets and have never paid for a container. Last year I had an heirloom tomato plant in a 2gal bucket that got 7.5’ tall and then I cut top half off late season and it grew back up to 7’ again by first frost. I couldn’t believe it.
 

ogbman

Active Member
Cool. Keep us posted over the season. I’ve never used a smartie but considered it with the compost I make.
Enjoyed the smarties over the winter. As the weather climbs to triple digits already the regular pots and buckets w/ res is quickly becoming my preference for the heat.
 

jela10

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Well, Well, Well, Look who’s back from the future! Just stopped in to say Hi to all my old Hempy Brothers and Sisters. I was a contributing member of this thread for the first 400 pg’s until I had to stop growing due to the “25 mile dispensary rule” and retired from work too. My retirement since ’15 has been a wonderful thing. I can only wish you all get the chance to make it there….so stash everything you can in those 401K’s. Even though a registered MMJ patient, my move to a cooler more rural climate still found me within a 25 mile distance to a dispensary (they are everywhere in this state). So I haven’t grown a thing but fucking flowers, veggie’s and fruit tree’s which all grow quite well here. One good thing I did upon retirement was learn to brew beer and man do I have the setup now. I’ve actually been competing! Hop’s, marijuana’s only relative, are a wonderful thing…I like putting them together in the same arena from time to time. Looks like we have another recreational legalization on the ballot for this November….watching anxiously, cause if we do, I’m gonna rock that Hempy!
 

nonamedman420

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11 days later. Explosive hempy growth.View attachment 4141770
hey, not to hijack this thread, but what kind of nutrients are you running with that outdoor tomato hempy? and if you don't mind, what E.C. or ppm are you targeting for your feeds? initial ph? and watering style? (feed, feed, water or the like), and do you water every X amount of days, or do you wait till it's about dry before watering?
 

Rakin

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hey, not to hijack this thread, but what kind of nutrients are you running with that outdoor tomato hempy? and if you don't mind, what E.C. or ppm are you targeting for your feeds? initial ph? and watering style? (feed, feed, water or the like), and do you water every X amount of days, or do you wait till it's about dry before watering?
Megacrop 6-7 grams per gallon depending on needs (wind, temp, humidity, blossoms). I use 7 to get them to really take off and back it off for high wind heat and to fruit. That puts it around 600-700 ppm for nutes in tap water that is 200-300 ppm already.

Nutrient ph is around 6.0-6.2 and runoff is 5.6-5.8. I water daily and right now they are using 1.25-1.5 gal per plant a day when the sun is out. I feed everyday and if there isn’t any rain for a while I will back off the nutes every now and then. You don’t want the tomato plants to dry out if you can help it.

Medium is 1-1-1 peat-coco-perlite with about a cup or so of peletized dolomite in every 6 cu foot of medium to buffer the peat, I will probably bump that up a little. Bottom of bucket is river rock up just past hole.
 
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