Bernie420
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Amino acid will help with the calcium uptake. Try it next time about once every couple of weeks. I thought amino aid was a decent product. Adding microbes would help some too.
How often do you encounter nutrient issues?
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Beachwalker
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Okay so what I'm saying is you feed veg nutes in veg, then when you switch to 12/12 you feed transition nutes, and then after 2 weeks to a month, depending on how the plant is reacting you switch to your flowering nutes
.. what I suspect you're doing is changing to flowering nutes too soon?
.. what I suspect you're doing is changing to flowering nutes too soon?
SchweeDubz
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what do you recommend for microbes and amino acids? how much could ppm be apart of this? im pretty surr chicago tap water is some of the hardest water in the us
Bernie420
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I do NOT like the great white for a microbe product. I do like the raw brand microbe for veg and bloom (separate products) I do like the amino aid from soul synthetics (I think) arura inovations // I forget.
Cant comment on the calcium with the tap water in chicago but you dont know it might be the cleanest water on the planet. I doubt it though. I think your under feeding it. Did you say you weren't adding microbes? Do you know what microbes do in the plant world??
I cant remember all the to much of this locks out that, kind of things.
I dont grow in dirt I do hydro but some guys were saying to me that amino acid in hydro was dumb or pointless, but I dont get calcium deficiency but we'll see cuz im going to stop using amino acid not cuz what they said but cuz i'm a cheap ass broke mfer.
since1991
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This^^^ all frikin day this. Spot on. I know he's not offering any kind of solution but this is 99% of the time..the problem. Grower error. Get a solid reliable pH and Ec/tds meter as well. And make sure its cleaned and calibrated before use. I suggest the Bluelab Combo meter. For any indoor grower no matter the substrate...this tool is invaluable. I know they say checking pH and ppm runoff isn't very accurate and technically it's not...but if you use the same meter and keep checking input water/feed solution up top before...and output runoff down below after...you will notice a pattern. And it's this pattern that gives you huge eyeballs on what's going on down below in the rhizosphere root zone.
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Bernie420
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YUP
since1991
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Yes those vids are kick ass. I've known Mr. Smith for a long long time. His wife is cool as hell too. He works for NPK Industries now but for the longest time he worked for SGS/Hydrodynamic International in Lansing Michigan. The makers of the popular Ionic one part nutrient here in the States. One cool cat and a walking encyclopedia of indoor grow room knowledge. Back in the nineties I would drive all the way down to East Lansing when I had the time just to pick his brain. He had a way of talking about indoor hydroponics and gardening in general that just made a would be grower just shut up and listen.
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Budzbuddha
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FFOF is prebuffered to 6.3 out of the bag , so you should be fine. When I used it , it began to exhaust about the 2/3 week of flower .... Scratched in Happy Frog Fruit and Veg to topsoil .....POOF ! ....back on track.
IMO FFOF is more nitro heavy than anything else ..., oh yeah add at least 35% more perlite to it for more aeration and drainage.
xtsho
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I never have nutrient issues. But hey, I keep it simple and just feed what the plant needs. I don't use any fancy labeled additives with snazzy names or vitamins, amino acids, etc... Calcium nitrate, micro nutrients, monopotassium phosphate and a little potassium sulphate a few weeks into flower. That's it. No nutrient issues whatsoever. Beautiful healthy plants from seed to harvest.
Budzbuddha
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since1991
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If yer growing in peat based soilless mixes...this brand is pretty foolproof. I like thier Light Warrior still to this day for getting seedlings and younglings off to a healthy start. I grow in coco coir and rockwool pretty exclusively these days but when I germinate seeds (hardly ever - I like running cuttings for consistency)... that Light Warrior and Happy Frog is pretty hard to beat.
Bernie420
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Idk.... I dont know much about nutrient ratios but I do know I want my K higher than my P. My plants told me that.
xtsho
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That looks like some decent stuff. I was just reading the ingredients. If I didn't feel the need to reinvent the wheel I would use it. I'm doing some organic soil grows and bought a dozen boxes of amendments to make my own supersoil. I like mixing my own things. But if I didn't I would definitely use that product.
since1991
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Definitely want P to be lower than the other 2. Especially in indoor plants in containers(pots) or hydropnically fed. The high phosphorus was really meant for outdoor ag crops in the dirt. It's easily washed out/leeched from corn and soy type ag crop soils and farmers have to amend heavily at start of season. For some reason the indoor cannabis industry took this as gospel in the early days and ran with it. Come to find out...its a whole different story about phosphorus and container/indoor plants. Seems that phosphorus kinda stays put in those setups. Even with non recovery drain to waste open operations. What's important...whether mineral salt fertilizer or organic inputs/amended soils is to keep the potassium to nitrogen ratios roughly 2:1. This isn't concrete. And very grower/setup/strain dependent but it's a general guide.
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john wishmyer
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never 3rd grow, never ph , supersoil mix . i always start seedlings in ffof they never burn