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Whichever way you spin it your using 2000 watts of cfl's, for the same amount of electric you could run 2 1000 watt hps and get a lot more saturation on those ladies. Like i said mate, your growing in MG which unfortunately have slow release nutes so the more you water the more nutes you are...

Alright Mate, im not getting involved trying to resolve this issue with the nute's (looks a bit like nitrogen deficancy, i would flush out normally but you are using miracle grow and that will escalate the problem due to the slow release nute), but for that ammount of cfls you could run a lot...

Buy a cheap fitting and you will get shite results.

Give up on LED's for another 2 or 3 years, the technology is coming on leaps and bounds all the time. It is deffinatley the future. I still use HPS though as the saturation just isnt there yet.

Ye your correct, i'm not talking about the spectrum of the light and the value of Kelvin's, i'm talking about the quality of the fitting and how the LED deteriates with heat. Most company that we compete with at work can fit LED lighting like us at a fraction of the cost but in 2 or 3 years...

Appauling, i have 2 babies upstaires asleep, what sort of world have i brought them in to.

I am a survayour for an electrical company and part of my job is to survey factories and industrial unit for changing over from hps to led lighting we make some amazing savings for companys, an average led light conversion from a 400hps to a 125 led light cost around £500 a fitting from us and...

I havent been on here in ages and the first thread i come to reminds me why I stopped. What is the point fucking arguing over the computer? Undercoveragentorange, dont tell anyone not even your mates and make sure it doesn't stink and you wont go far wrong, failing that do it at someone elses...

Ye man thats how i grow, gets a bit tedious in the last couple of week when there all tangle togther. You know when they have had all their water and nutes when they fall over hahaha.

I made some oil once and had a bit too much, since then i suffer from the odd sesion of paranoia. What i miss more is growing it, since the wife became a child minder it has turned into a big no no.

You will be fine mate, i used to worry about this stuff all the time. A 400watt light is not gonna give you away, its when you vent hot smelly air out of the house it become's a problem.

Do u reckon that is what it is? Will check tomorrow, didn't notice any male parts.

Right i have 4 white widow, i have had problems all the way through the grow. The thing is all four plants have turned pistels brown (how has this happend) at 4-5 weeks, sounds pretty good but the problem is that the buds havn't packed out. Dont know what to do? Not checked the trich's yet.

depends on how far u have to go before harvest, pestercides normally

Anything living on the plant WILL be feeding off the plant, they will suck the juices right out of it.

any little critters on the underneath of the leafs. You watering enough?

Cant see any spidermite, will have to get some better pics tomorrow. Finger crossed i can bring them back as there in a bad way. Some of the leafs are yellowing as well. Sort of lost interest half way through this grow, gone have a bit of time off after this grow. Done 8 back to back time...

I should know but i don't. Been looking at pic's and i cant find what i am looking. So it's over to the comunity to help cheers. This could be any number of things, so far this grow has gone tits up. 1 I have give them nute burn 2 I have fed them water without dissipating the clorine 3...

Get shut of it and dont dry it and smoke it, make sure you get every last bit otherwise it will return. Have a good look round the rest of the plant, dont be scared to get deep down in to the buds.

Thats it, and electricty is charged per kilo watt hour kwh.