12/12 an auto at 4 weeks into flower?

OG Jewish connissor

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i grew 6 autos....i dont know if i messed up with the soil ph nutrient feeding and stuff or i messed up with the light cycle being 12-12..
Maybe both affected my plants the bad way...

Guys does anyone know if the tempereture goes under 5 celcius at dark period what happens to the plants??
Listen for the roots sake they need at least 4 hrs uninterrupted dark 20-4 18-6 6.7 to7.1 ph ok don't transplant the tap root goes straight down not much lateral rooting plants slow metabolism the cooler it gets just like us. Just water no nukes let nature take it's course and learn from each grow like I did. Ask questions critical thinking about what you are processing. OG JC What brand auto ?
 

HighLowGrow

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Listen for the roots sake they need at least 4 hrs uninterrupted dark 20-4 18-6 6.7 to7.1 ph ok don't transplant the tap root goes straight down not much lateral rooting plants slow metabolism the cooler it gets just like us. Just water no nukes let nature take it's course and learn from each grow like I did. Ask questions critical thinking about what you are processing. OG JC What brand auto ?
Hmmmmmm

I provide no darkness.
I always transplant.
Of course you need nutes.

Have you ever grown a plant?

If you have sorry. You are passing on crap. You don't NEED darkness. You CAN transplant no problem. And you NEED nutes unless you are working with some sort of supersoil.

I'm not usually a dick but does this shit make sense to you?
 
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Alexroller

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can i work with nutes like terra vega and terra flores??? thats what i have... i am trying to fix my φ 150 to φ 100 cooltube ventilation system... imade it work..!! next step is thermometer and hydrometer...
 

OG Jewish connissor

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Hmmmmmm

I provide no darkness.
I always transplant.
Of course you need nutes.

Have you ever grown a plant?

If you have sorry. You are passing on crap. You don't NEED darkness. You CAN transplant no problem. And you NEED nutes unless you are working with some sort of supersoil.

I'm not usually a dick but does this shit make sense to you?
hey don't get mad it works for me they ask thats why all info is important grown for over 40yrs best not to transplant autos and mother nature provides nutes many different ways and yours works for you great stay in touch I like you. OG
 

OG Jewish connissor

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HighLowGrow

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TheSkyway

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Kind of hard to let Mother Nature "handle it" when not growing in Mother Nature.

I transplanted these autos from peat moss/perlite solo cups to 2 gallons coco/perlite hempy. I didn't know anything about autos at the time and I'm not convinced they stunted them in any way.
 

TheSkyway

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I ran soil my first two grows, dwc for a month, then it's been hempy ever since. This is my first experience with coco and so far I'm liking it. I've done pure perlite but found it hard to keep my plants upright at times. I find hempy to be very forgiving and I enjoy only transplanting one time for the entire grow
 

OG Jewish connissor

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I ran soil my first two grows, dwc for a month, then it's been hempy ever since. This is my first experience with coco and so far I'm liking it. I've done pure perlite but found it hard to keep my plants upright at times. I find hempy to be very forgiving and I enjoy only transplanting one time for the entire grow
I heard coco also a great medium I am just saying I tried autos first time last year AKR same place and a free Tangie auto blimburn and both were incredible to watch grow I grew first asked questions later just suggestions given to me about autos They said not to clone waste of time what about pollinating to make seeds? The ultimate 60 days to grow 4 0z or more top notch quality is every mans dream plant right? Same weight less time and space utilization this is still new but a great discovery. The smells from my crossed Deep Purple Male with my others unique phenos appearing almost as fast as an auto maybe 2 3 weeks longer. OGJC
 

custodio214

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So I have a batch of 7 autos at 7 weeks 4 different kinds narco purpsx4 purpsx1 OG kushx1 and dark purplex1 all labeled as autos on the bag. The OG kush is about 5 times the size as all the rest and it has only shown one flower at the base nodes yet all the other girls are about 20% done flowering. I don't know what to do and it is begining to touch the 50% mark of my 4x4x7 room. I've waited pretty long for it to flower and I'm aftaid it might have been a pure indica because I've been running 18/6 500w hps in the dwc. So should I shut the lights down early to set an 12/12 light cycle or hold out and have it potentially outgrow my room?? Thanks in advance for the advice.
 

OG Jewish connissor

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So I have a batch of 7 autos at 7 weeks 4 different kinds narco purpsx4 purpsx1 OG kushx1 and dark purplex1 all labeled as autos on the bag. The OG kush is about 5 times the size as all the rest and it has only shown one flower at the base nodes yet all the other girls are about 20% done flowering. I don't know what to do and it is begining to touch the 50% mark of my 4x4x7 room. I've waited pretty long for it to flower and I'm aftaid it might have been a pure indica because I've been running 18/6 500w hps in the dwc. So should I shut the lights down early to set an 12/12 light cycle or hold out and have it potentially outgrow my room?? Thanks in advance for the advice.
How reliable is the seed connection? The 10% of Rudelaris may not have caused the plant to begin flowering I might put it under 12/12 to save the plant and find out. Autos have this look to the plant a rough tough texture I noticed stronger appearance of plant mixed with Rudy. So the OG is veg and it's clock says keep growing as a true auto will start budding at a certain time no matter what usually 30 days you notice bud formation. I put Deep Purple Male with kush and shortens the growing time indoors but still need 4 xtra weeks. 55-110 days Autos perform depending on the cross Sativa or Indica or both. Show pics OGJC
 

OG Jewish connissor

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I don't need to read anything. I do my own experiments and don't base anything I do on what others do. Learned this a long time ago.

I'm a little confused though. You say no nutes let Mother Nature handle it. And then you say 20/4 for lighting. Are you talking indoor or outdoor or a combination o_O ?
Hey glad you not mad use nutes just not a thick and yes indoors I only grew autos once AKR and Tangie the web sites help see what others have done it's called learning and yes of course do it yourself somebody had to explain it. Outdoors do what works best for you. Don't believe everything that comes at my fingers but sure hope made friend on this site. Good luck I got 4 weeks left. OG
 

OG Jewish connissor

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This is great reading material you do read? My experiment to look at what others have done before me makes me a better learner. Remember OG is OG and getting older I love the net for info. This is very informative or not? how a

All autoflowering cannabis plants like any other living things need food to stay alive and grow. But unlike animals or humans plants use nutrients for this matter. Automatic plants use large quantities of Nitrogen (N), Phosphorus (P) and Potassium (K) but that is not the end of it because cannabis also needs some “secondary” elements like Magnesium (Mg), Calcium (Ca) and Sulfur (S) but they are used in much smaller amounts than the first three elements. There are also some trace elements that ruderalis plants require to grow to it’s full potential and they are: Copper (Cu) , Boron (B) , Zinc (Zn) , Chlorine (Cl), Iron (Fe) , Manganese (Mn) and Molybdenum (Mo). These trace elements are required in very small amounts and they usually are mixed in the fertilizer or pre-maid soil.

Autoflowering cannabis plants use decent amounts of nutrients and you need to supply your plant with all the necessary “foods” so you can get amazing harvests and fast growth. If you use a pre-made potting soil then usually it has a mixed in nutrients that will be more than enough to nurture your autoflower plant for the first two to three weeks of its growth but from that point on you will need to supply additional nutrients so there are no deficiencies.

Nutrients in soil
Usually premium soils have all the necessary nutrients and especially large amount of Nitrogen because it promotes healthy, fast growth. Pre-made potting soil has enough “food” to supply your auto seedling for the first 3 to 4 weeks but the amount of time the plant can grow without additional nutrients can be very different from strain to strain. Usually autoflowering plants show signs of nutrient deficiency when they have ran out of “food” and this is the time when you need to add additional chemicals. If you are growing very fast growing autoflowering strains that can be done in less than two months from seed then the premium soil will almost able to supply your auto plant with the necessary amounts of nutrients and you will probably need to feed them only once or twice. This statement is only true if you use a large pot and small growing auto seeds, because small pots contains less soil and less nutrients so you can imagine how the plant will use it up a lot faster.

If you use regular soilless-mix or ordinary soil without any added nutrients you will need to add all these necessary elements yourself while the plants is growing but be careful with time release nutrients as they can do more harm than good.

Best fertilizer for autoflowers
Fertilizer basically is the concentrated cannabis “food” and it is calculated in the ratios of N – P – K elements. Nitrogen (N), Phosphorus (P) and Potassium (K) are the main elements that allow your ruderalis plant to grow and produce leaves, stems, roots as well as flowers and without these elements your plant struggle to survive. The N-P-K ratio is usually displayed at the front of your fertilizer package and it can be something like 10-5-5. These numbers mean that this fertilizer has 10 % Nitrogen, 5 % Phosphorus and 4% Potassium. The remaining 80 % consists of the secondary elements, trace elements and a liquid solution(water) where all these elements are dissolved.

Autoflwoering cannabis are very delicate plants that require lesser amount of food than ordinary cannabis strains. This property of autoflowers can be a big advantage for new growers because you don’t need to worry so much about the feeding of the plants and they can survive much harsher extremes. When you want to feed your cannabis plants with fertilizer you must always read the labels of the packaging and never give plants more than it is recommended by the specific company. Automatically flowering plants are basically a ruderalis cross breaded with other strains and the ruderalis gene is very strong in these plant. In nature cannabis ruderalis plants require very low amount of nutrients to survive and that is why you need to give your autoflowers small amounts of nutrients and never over feed them. When you start feeding your plants with fertilizer you need to give ¼ or maybe even 1/8 of the required dose and let the plant adapt to these chemicals and only when you see that everything is OK you can slowly increase the dose. But be aware that it is not recommended that you go further than ½ of the dose that the manufacturer says. Fertilizers usually need to be dissolved in water and you give your plants their “food” by simply watering them. Usually a good practice is to water your autos with fertilizer every other watering. You can also water two times with pure water and every third one give nutrients so the possibilities are endless, and you need to experiment and see what works best for you and you and your autoflower plants.

Nutrients for Seedling phase
First two weeks of cannabis growth are the most crucial because the little seedling is establishing its root system and it is very fragile. At this stage you must be very careful not to overfeed those little sprouts. You can start your autoflower off with 1/8 of the required nutes or better yet, just give the plant plain water for those first couple of weeks. If you overfeed your cannabis plant at this stage of its growth it is highly possible that the baby plant won’t survive or if it manages to somehow survive then the overall yield of the damaged autoflower plant will be greatly diminished.

If you are using pre-made potting soil with added nutrients then you don’t need to feed those little auto plant for the first two to three weeks so you can relax and forget about those nutrients at this stage of its growth.

Nutrients for Pre-flowering
Regular cannabis plants have a vegetative growth stage but autoflower cannabis plants usually goes from seedling phase straight to flowering so there isn’t a distinct vegetative growth period. Some growers do believe that the time when the little sprout gets its true set of leafs till it starts flowering is the vegetative growth stage but anyway it doesn’t matter how we call this stage because we need to feed it just like a regular photo-sensitive plant in its vegetative stage. When we see that our autoflower plant starts really fast growth we need to start giving it little more nutrients. Usually it is best to give ½ of the recommended dose of nutes, but if the plant gets really bushy you can give it a full dose. At the vegetative stage cannabis needs lot of Nitrogen (N) and a decent amount of phosphorus (P) and potassium (K). Best fertilizer for autoflowering plants at this growth stage is the one that has an N-P-K ratio of 10-5-5 or 20-10-10. No matter what the percentage is just make sure that Nitrogen (N) is available more than those other two elements. Autoflower cannabis also needs those secondary nutes and trace elements, but commercial fertilizers usually have a mix of them included in the nutrient solution.

Nutrients for Flowering phase
When the first pre-flowers start to appear you need to change your fertilizer / nutrient solution to a mix that has more Phosphorus (P) and Potassium (K). Phosphorus is essential to cannabis bud forming and it has to be very available to autoflower plant when it enters the flowering stage. A fertilizer with a ratio of 5-10-10 or 10-20 20 will be good enough but the best auto-flower nute solutions have a 5-15-10 or similar ratios, because Phosphorus (P) is the most essential nutrient in the flowering stage. Some inexperienced growers think that you must strictly go by the schedule when you are feeding your plants and if you don’t change your fertilizer to flowering mix then your ruderalis plant will not grow properly. But the truth is that almost any fertilizer even a 10-10-10 N-P-K mix nutrient solution will do just fine and you can give your plant it throughout its life cycle. You can be very precise and if you have a lot of experience you can boost your yield with appropriate fertilizers but for beginners and medium level autoflower growers it is not as crucial and it is always best to give your cannabis plants less food than overfeed them.
 

custodio214

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How reliable is the seed connection? The 10% of Rudelaris may not have caused the plant to begin flowering I might put it under 12/12 to save the plant and find out. Autos have this look to the plant a rough tough texture I noticed stronger appearance of plant mixed with Rudy. So the OG is veg and it's clock says keep growing as a true auto will start budding at a certain time no matter what usually 30 days you notice bud formation. I put Deep Purple Male with kush and shortens the growing time indoors but still need 4 xtra weeks. 55-110 days Autos perform depending on the cross Sativa or Indica or both. Show pics OGJC
The drkrippling og kush was a free seed from seedsman and the others came out beautifully purple and really auto looking that flowered in first 4 weeks. This plant has no sights of being an auto and has been slightly yellowing while the others are dark green because I cut the nutes in half to 650ppm and a ph of 6.1 so I'm getting nutrient lack from the big girl and too much on the true autos. Another sign is the cemetery and the huge leafs all over. Not one has 3 points. I need to know where to go from here as far as scroggibg or pruning because it's kinda getting overgrown.
 

OG Jewish connissor

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The drkrippling og kush was a free seed from seedsman and the others came out beautifully purple and really auto looking that flowered in first 4 weeks. This plant has no sights of being an auto and has been slightly yellowing while the others are dark green because I cut the nutes in half to 650ppm and a ph of 6.1 so I'm getting nutrient lack from the big girl and too much on the true autos. Another sign is the cemetery and the huge leafs all over. Not one has 3 points. I need to know where to go from here as far as scroggibg or pruning because it's kinda getting overgrown.
might as well do 12hrs with this one it is bound to happen OG
 

dojagrower

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24/0. 1 gallon grow bags. 600hps. FFOF.
Autos only live so long. Why deprive them of light.

Because this is how I roll.

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I have lots more if you would to see them. The problem is people don't do their own tests and rely on what they read.
Hey getting ready to do a auto (Skunk,,, dr. kriplings) have never done one , I usually grow In DWC or organic bed right now im in a 4x8 bed two 600hps organics really interested in the autos though interesting can in anyway guide me I would really appreciate it
 
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