1200w Stadium "stinkbud" spinoff SOG Critical mass and Critical Sensi Star

Well sad news i believe... I know for sure 2 are males and 2 are females. I removed the two males but think i only ended up with 2 females out of 6. Thats pretty sad... This is going to throw me way behind and I probably will only get one harvest this winter. I took about 6 clones from each of the females and threw them in the aero cloner last night. I will likely grow them out in the aero cloner, and get them big enough to have them donate clones down to the last branch and then just toss them and keep the dirt moms and start over, i will have two-two and half months to get it back together. Seriously depressing, never grown in soil before feel like everything is going so slow. To try to help my clone issue i busted out a old vertical NFT bucket(hydrofarm) and threw the couple clones i had taken awhile back into it and hope they really explode. Sorry to be a debbie downer but really thought this would of went smoother.

FYI i grow in my cellar is the reason i will only get one harvest, i have to be done by the time tornado season rolls around

Why do you need to stop before tornado season?

Sucks about the boys. And yeah, I grew in soil this year after hydro for a few years. I couldn't believe how ridiculously slow soil is. It's like slow motion growing.

I have a neighbor who always asks to use my cellar if needed. They are an elderly couple and the gentleman that owned the house before me always used to let them use it. Also my mom is over occasionally and if we have a storm she would want to use it. I grew through tornado season the first year we moved in and by the grace of god we didnt have any tornados near us that year, good lord was really looking out for me i think. I hadnt talked to the neighbor and about 1/2 way through flower he waves me down one day and asks if he can use the cellar if needed. I'm sure the deer in headlights look i gave him was obvious haha

I was thinking that was the issue... I don't think it would go down so well to say, "Sorry mom, you can't come into our basement even though a twister is coming. And I can't tell you why."

Haha yeah man I'm not so sure she would understand. She's a real straight and narrow type. Maybe I can let the first group go 9weeks and then see how the weather is and take the 2nd group far as I can. Still get 2runs just not full run on the 2nd round. Good news is I just got back inside and I think one of my undetermineds is a girl, so I have 3! Sounds so much better than 2, just not much side branching on it to get clones. Any techniques to get them to take off? I topped once already

Thanks for following along man. You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to jigfresh again.

Not bashing, not trolling just curious. I have always used femanised seeds and never had a problem with males. What is your beef with fem seeds, saves time, money, effort, electricity blah blah. I use the word 'your' losely and am generally talking to all you fella over yonder pond. Just curious, I am probably on my 20th clone generation from it's original source and the strain is good as it was back at the beginning..... 100% females every cutting.

As far as pictures go - use imgshack or another site that allows you to sign up with a hushmail account. Then upload pictures that way. If you are doing this illegally you can take further steps to protect yourself.

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MrMeanGreen said:

Not bashing, not trolling just curious. I have always used femanised seeds and never had a problem with males. What is your beef with fem seeds, saves time, money, effort, electricity blah blah. I use the word 'your' losely and am generally talking to all you fella over yonder pond. Just curious, I am probably on my 20th clone generation from it's original source and the strain is good as it was back at the beginning..... 100% females every cutting.

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Everyone always talks about how much more vigorous the non-feminized seeds are so I decided to try them for myself once. This is the first time I haven't bought feminized. I did buy feminized delicious critical Sensi star but about forgot to pop it. It's like 3-4weeks behind.

Feminization has little to do with vigor. How inbred the plant is is where the vigor is going to be discovered. Highly inbred lines are not vigorous. S1's will be less vigorous than any conventional cross due to the inbreeding factor. There are MANY feminized seeds that are not S1's and are conventional crosses. They are just as vigorous as regular seeds as long as the two parents (in this case both girls) are not closely related.

Back tracking a bit, I cut clones from 3 and 5, about 5-6 from each and put them in the aero cloner on the 27th. Checked today and more than one has popped some little nubs!! That is 7 days, god why did i ever decide to run the moms in dirt, should of built seperate DWC or hydrofarms for each. I think since i'm having such success w/ the aero cloner i may build another instead of using the rapid rooters and a dome. I only had good success rate on males in the rapid rooters w/dome. Also while i'm on my hydro kick i will point out that the #5 clones i threw in the hydrofarm "vertical NFT" have really taken off. I have to go back down later and throw a frozen water bottle in the waterfarm water temps are about 73-75 just a tad warm and prone to the root rot. Also will have to water all the dirt plants, I will try to snap some pics of everything.

Oh also i worked on drilling holes in the fence posts yesterday, my ADD kicked in with 2 posts left, i put 10 in each post that didnt already have holes, the ones that already have holes will have 12.

Well i went out last night and watered all the veggie plants w/ a mix of epsom salts and molasses. Next water i'm going to do a tea w/ some azomite, oatmeal, and my fish bottled fert. Trying to get by with what organic stuff i have for now on the moms not trying to spend anymore cash on organic stuff, i spent a bunch when i was trying to do a outdoor guerilla grow one summer(too paranoid for that shiz). Threw a frozen bottle in the DWC mom and checked ph/ppm holding pretty steady at about 400ppm and 5.8-6ish(i use a dropper so harder to say for certain) my water comes out at about 150 so i'm running about 250 on the Moon dust nutes. Enough talk here are a couple pics, holes i drilled in my fence posts, inside the aero cloner and then critical sensi star.


Anyone tell me why my Critical sensi star is so wrinkled? I think it may be because i made the bottom of the mix too hot? I put in some extra epsoma tone. Think it was about 1tb sp to about 4 red solo cups of FFOF. Thought i was making my own "super soil". If anyone thinks it may be something else please chime in.

Oh yeah happy late Halloween!!!

I feel you on the drops... it's always a fun guessing game, like is that closer to 5.7, or 5.9. Also feel you on being too paranoid to do a guerilla grow. I always make preliminary plans and chicken out.

The leaves might be from low humidity? That's a guess, no idea really.

And WTF? Where did you take that picture? And why wasn't I invited?

Haha I wish I took that pic I would of "fell" over on her a couple times!! On the humidity deal I've always had 55 or higher so shouldn't be because of low humidity. Everyone of them look so much perkier after my molasses/epsom water. i think i might be letting them dry out too much. Gonna hit them w/ my azomite tea tonight.

jigfresh said:

I feel you on the drops... it's always a fun guessing game, like is that closer to 5.7, or 5.9. Also feel you on being too paranoid to do a guerilla grow. I always make preliminary plans and chicken out.

The leaves might be from low humidity? That's a guess, no idea really.

And WTF? Where did you take that picture? And why wasn't I invited?

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I now love garfield

Been pretty uneventful around here, I'm gonna build my 2nd aero cloner, gonna transfer the rooted ones over and try to veg them a couple weeks get a couple clones each off them

Sorry again for being boring. Promise when it gets to flower time i will try to update more often.

I got the 2nd cloner built and put the older clones into it back about a week ago. After preaching to one of my fellow RIU brethern i let my clones get the ROT(prior to transplant). It was a mild case but enough to kill all the roots they had(not much) and slow me down about a week on those. They are basically the same size as when i took them except a few that somehow obviously didnt get the rot. So disappointing to make that dumb mistake after getting roots in 7 days. They are all flowing w/ nice white roots now and hopefully within a week maybe two i will be able to get 1-2 clones off each of them to help me meet my goal of 90clones. Probably should do a couple extra incase i have problems but that 99 numbers is looming over my head. And again i have to say why the heck did i use dirt to start w/ my vertical NFT clone is almost as big as the dirt moms i've had going for 3times as long.

I'm working on getting a veg room built because where i'm vegging now will be the flower room. and i need somewhere for moms to go and also clone.

What happened, did the rez temps get too high? Sucks about them roots. I always like to fucus on the roots first, til they get nice and strong before I worry to much about the green parts lol. I just had a little slime on a couple of the gals I transplanted from soil to the Dec. No good.

and damn the soil growth rates. I just tried soil this year and found it hard to believe the difference in speed. My hydro plants this round are already bigger than my last soil round... In about 1/4 the time. Maybe less.

good luck with everything