260pcs*1W high power led wall washer/led stage lights

Will these LED light be any good?

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pon

pon

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Hi all, I have one of these stage lights behind our sofa. Do you reckon this would be any good to grow with?
Technical Parameters
1..Size:120×60×60(mm)
2..Maximum Power:260W
3.Real Power: Power supply should give 260W*120%=315W to each fixture
4.Net Weight:4.0Kg
5.Driver Installation: External
6.Color Range: RGB/Red/Green//Blue/Amber/White
7.LED:1 W ( 3 in one)ultra high brightness LED
8.LED QTY:260 LED
9.Operating Voltage:DC24V
10.Control Mode DMX512
11.LED Source Life:50,000hours,based on LED manufacturers' test data
12.Housing:Aluminum / surface-oxidized processing / toughened glass
13.Temperature:-4ºF to 122ºF(-20ºC to 50ºC) operating temperature
14.Protection;IP65

 
FranJan

FranJan

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I've seen those and often wondered about them. You can probably grow with that, at least veg I bet, but the amount of money you'll spend running it won't be worth the amount of weed you pull out. That's a light designed to recreate different light to human eyes, not output PAR necessarily. They're multiple dies for high CRI, so they're probably running at a much lower current/wattage in order to keep them cool since multiple dies in one package create more heat, though if it is a pro light, it may have killer cooling. Also when I see those resistors that means to me that the light is drawing more power than outputting. That's a design flaw according to some LED builders. Plus 1 watt diodes aren't great for flowering IMHO.

Having said all that, just put any kind of seed under it and see what happens. You never really know with LEDs till you try in some cases. Can you control the intensity and color of it? That may the ticket to get something out of it. And worst case scenario is you've got one hell of a start to a DIY panel. Good Luck!
 
pon

pon

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Hi FranJan, I'll give it a bash as it does give off a very bright light when they are all on - moreso than the 40w led board I have in there now. But as you say it may be costly to run as I also have a 200w cfl + 4 30w cfl in my little grow area.
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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FranJan (and anyone else who thinks 1w leds don't 'rock it'

1 watt leds do a perfectly fine job flowering, and with ever increasing efficiency of whites it can only get better. Here's a sweetie I just harvested under ~ 80 watts (all one watt diodes)

Main fixture is a '90 watt" ufo ~ 8-1 R:B + a variety of screw bulbs ~ 4- 7.5 watts each- mix of CW/BW/WW

I forgot to add one more low branch to the scale





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FranJan

FranJan

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^^^It's not that I think 1's can do it or not, I don't...not yet. 200-300 mA does not produce enough photons to "rock" my flowering room IMHO. It's what works for your style, needs and wallet when it comes to LEDs to me. Plus you've got to remember the way I look at whites right now is different than you and the heretics and alchemists at the Astir thread do ;). For example I would take the de-fuser, (I'm assuming those aren't Philips' style remote phosphors), off those CBY/BBY/WBY bulbs you used and then put those lights in my veg room where they belong. See what I mean? Di and Tri chromatic lights are just fancy blue lights to me atm. They're part of the solution, not "the Light". But that's just my $.02 Pet. And for the record I have 1 watt-SMD LED lights and use them in my veg cab.

You grew a nice plant because of your skill dude. And is that your thumb on the scale :razz:? Peace and Happy Holidays PetFlora!
 
pon

pon

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I initially got one of these crappy boards.


But crap as it is it produces lovely autos
17dec (13).jpg
 
pon

pon

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FranJan said:
^^^It's not that I think 1's can do it or not, I don't...not yet. 200-300 mA does not produce enough photons to "rock" my flowering room IMHO. It's what works for your style, needs and wallet when it comes to LEDs to me. Plus you've got to remember the way I look at whites right now is different than you and the heretics and alchemists at the Astir thread do ;). For example I would take the de-fuser, (I'm assuming those aren't Philips' style remote phosphors), off those CBY/BBY/WBY bulbs you used and then put those lights in my veg room where they belong. See what I mean? Di and Tri chromatic lights are just fancy blue lights to me atm. They're part of the solution, not "the Light". But that's just my $.02 Pet.
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Fook knows what you're on about?
I suppose now the world aint going to end this month I should step my game up and get a ufo light and use my cfl as side lights.
I don't really have a veg room running at the mo' cos I grow autos - that said I have a royal queen fem that I'm going to use for clones and that little board will do nicely for 1 or two on 12/12
My RQ
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pon

pon

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What do you guys think of this un?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90W-UFO-LED-GROW-PROPAGATION-LIGHT-WHITE-LED-ORCHIDS-HYDROPONICS-6400K-/27112640248


The LED UFO is the most revolutionary plant lighting product since the inception of High Pressure Sodium lamp. Consuming only 90 watts of power and producing virtually no heat, it boasts light intensity and growth rates exceeding most of the High Pressure Sodium lamps.
The directional nature of the LEDs ensures 100% of the light is pointed downwards so no reflective material is needed. The low heat emission also eliminates the need for ducting and heat exhaust fans.
Make use of the pure LED light and suitable for the plant growing, which will make the flower longer and the vegetable grow quicker. You can save 50%-90% power comparing with the HPS and fluorescent lamp.

Parameters

  • Voltage: 240V
  • Power: 90W
  • LED quantity: 90pcs high power 1W WHITE LED`s
  • Unit diameter: 270mm
  • Unit height: 119mm
  • Frame: Metal
  • LED Colour: White: 6400K (ideal for vegetation stage)
  • Use: Indoor growing
  • Three, thermostatically-controlled, low-noise fans
  • Built-in lugs for easy mounting & hanging
<>·CE & ROHS compliant
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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FranJan said:
^^^It's not that I think 1's can do it or not, I don't...not yet. 200-300 mA does not produce enough photons to "rock" my flowering room IMHO. It's what works for your style, needs and wallet when it comes to LEDs to me. Plus you've got to remember the way I look at whites right now is different than you and the heretics and alchemists at the Astir thread do ;). For example I would take the de-fuser, (I'm assuming those aren't Philips' style remote phosphors), off those CBY/BBY/WBY bulbs you used and then put those lights in my veg room where they belong. See what I mean? Di and Tri chromatic lights are just fancy blue lights to me atm. They're part of the solution, not "the Light". But that's just my $.02 Pet. And for the record I have 1 watt-SMD LED lights and use them in my veg cab.

You grew a nice plant because of your skill dude. And is that your thumb on the scale :razz:? Peace and Happy Holidays PetFlora!
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I wish the diffusers came off, but I would have to cut them off (plus they MIGHT be remote phosphor- but I doubt it). Someone does make a screw off diffuser. I also have SM screw bulbs, but the lenses are ~ 60*s.

Do you think the Philips would be good? They are $$$$$$$$ I mean, at some point the spectrums blend prior to striking the leafs/plants

Thanks for the props. I actually screwed up trying to hybridize my bubbler, and was using 2/4 oxystones, as I needed the other 2 (4 total) to start my clones
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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pon, Having lived with the shortcomings of a round fixture, I am not a fan. Regardless, the light is priced right. My preference would be to include 5000-6500, but you can add a couple of vanity bars and get some WW led screw bulbs

Did you really rock that plant under that 225 led? Fn awesome!

Living in S Florida, I can tell you there is a huge skin burn difference between 90* sun vs 80* sun; 30 minutes under 90* will burn the crap out of your skin, but 80 one can handle for hours.

Extrapolating that, low watt leds spread around the plants can be much closer to the sweet spot, providing much more useful light than high watt diodes/chips that are point source and must be kept farther away to avoid bleaching
 
pon

pon

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guod said:
from Post#8


from Post#9

What did you do, eat a clown for breakfast?
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Barf, ideal for veg but good for flower too - you get about 2 -3 weeks before an auto gets sexy thats about 1/3 of the total grow time so it can't be too bad?
 
pon

pon

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PetFlora said:
pon, Having lived with the shortcomings of a round fixture, I am not a fan. Regardless, the light is priced right. My preference would be to include 5000-6500, but you can add a couple of vanity bars and get some WW led screw bulbs

Did you really rock that plant under that 225 led? Fn awesome!

Living in S Florida, I can tell you there is a huge skin burn difference between 90* sun vs 80* sun; 30 minutes under 90* will burn the crap out of your skin, but 80 one can handle for hours.

Extrapolating that, low watt leds spread around the plants can be much closer to the sweet spot, providing much more useful light than high watt diodes/chips that are point source and must be kept farther away to avoid bleaching
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What are the shortcomings of round lights?

Yep I grew that lass under the crappy board, please note that it's a dwarf auto and it's only 20 inches tall so the lightboard is ideal for the size of these autos.
This baby has not stretched - another auto under a 40w led board I have I have others under cfl lights have stretched that much I had to supercrop em.
26dec (3).jpg26dec (4).jpg crappy 225 15w led


26dec (13).jpg 200w dual spectrum cfl, supercropped 22 inches tall.
 
FranJan

FranJan

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PetFlora said:
Do you think the Philips would be good? They are $$$$$$$$ I mean, at some point the spectrums blend prior to striking the leafs/plants
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The new one might. It's uses a dual remote phosphor design and glass instead of plastic. Produces more light with 2 less diodes than the last model I believe. It's also got some patented or proprietary technology too, so who knows till you buy one and show us PF :). I hear the latest trend for Yellow/Blue lights is to add some red phosphors to it. Look for those. I bet BYR based white is better for mj plants in most indoor situations than RGB based. PM me if you want to talk more. I don't want to jack the OP's thread.
 
pon

pon

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I bought the 90w led light as it was such a good price - how far from the plant should I hang this baby? I have it about 2 inches away from the top at the moment on my adv biodiesel mass auto. It is by far the brightest light now - way brighter than my 200w dual spectrum cfl :)
 
pon

pon

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pon said:
What do you guys think of this un?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/90W-UFO-LED-GROW-PROPAGATION-LIGHT-WHITE-LED-ORCHIDS-HYDROPONICS-6400K-/27112640248


The LED UFO is the most revolutionary plant lighting product since the inception of High Pressure Sodium lamp. Consuming only 90 watts of power and producing virtually no heat, it boasts light intensity and growth rates exceeding most of the High Pressure Sodium lamps.
The directional nature of the LEDs ensures 100% of the light is pointed downwards so no reflective material is needed. The low heat emission also eliminates the need for ducting and heat exhaust fans.
Make use of the pure LED light and suitable for the plant growing, which will make the flower longer and the vegetable grow quicker. You can save 50%-90% power comparing with the HPS and fluorescent lamp.

Parameters

  • Voltage: 240V
  • Power: 90W
  • LED quantity: 90pcs high power 1W WHITE LED`s
  • Unit diameter: 270mm
  • Unit height: 119mm
  • Frame: Metal
  • LED Colour: White: 6400K (ideal for vegetation stage)
  • Use: Indoor growing
  • Three, thermostatically-controlled, low-noise fans
  • Built-in lugs for easy mounting & hanging
<>·CE & ROHS compliant
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I will let you know how I get on with this new bargain light.
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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Pon, among the issues with ufos is spectral distribution within the circle is typically poor... also, lens angles tend to be tight ~ 60*, which means they should be farther than they need to be for the various spectrums to not spot over the plant

90 @1 watt white (6400K) relegates this fixture to veg only, even supplementing with other leds as I do for flowering, will be problematic

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FYI, I bought a 12.5w Philips remote phosphor (2700K) yesterday. I inserted it into the vanity fixture
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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You bought a veg light to flower with. You aren't going to have enough red light to flower properly.

If it were me, (besides buying a flowering light instead of a veg light) I'd immediately buy some supplemental 2700k CFL's, you're going to need them.


FYI - you can use a flowering light to veg, but using a vegging light to flower isn't very feasible,
 
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