315W CMH SIngle Plant DWC SCROG.

TheStickMan

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bongsmiliehaha nice!!! I need me a good stinky one! Yeah they say blues/livers is their all time favorite strain and they actually have a lot of "blue" crosses and making more. In the description they say Sour Livers is currently one of their top 5 favorites to grow and toke so I'm excited for her!
It should be wicked mate! I’d love to give it a go but i’d just be proper para with the smell haha
 

TheStickMan

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Ooo mephisto is having a seed drop this weekend... there's a 10% discount code for the drop too ;) two of those new strains - the Creme de la Chem, as well as the Cosmic Queen - are really tempting for me, but I REALLY shouldn't be spending on seeds right now :shock: LOL
let's see how I make it thru the weekend

My little ones are growing their 2nd tier of leaves, but the NLHaze is having a fit - hers are lemon-yellow, wtf, how can she have nute probs that early... I'm going to check on her soil tonight, see if that can give me any clue as to what's going on, because she started out great and I was quite happy with how the soil mix was, spongey and holding moisture really well (maybe too well, I never had to water it after I dropped the seed in there, and only started doing so when she was almost a week old. Maybe that was too much? no idea.
I think I need to get used to the idea of having problems for a while as I go through this rather extreme experimental phase... :rolleyes:

Cheers and have a fine weekend!!
Very tempting lol but no neither should I! I think i’ll finish this one, and then get the seed collection out. Maybe try and finally finish Blue Dream off or the Critical 2.0. That was nice bud, although had root rot and was chopped a couple of weeks early. Be good to see what it can do without problems. Can’t remember what that yielded, I think it was 11 ounce.
Then I think i’ll try the auto experiment!
 

TheStickMan

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View attachment 4029671 Sour Stomper in organic soil day 68 of 75 - 232g dry :bigjoint:
She had it pretty warm in the closet, and min & max temps stayed within a 10°C range, so pretty constant, which isn't necessarily the case outdoors in climates with short summers.
So not sure how she'd do outdoors - though her vigor does give reason to hope she's sturdy enough, and the time to harvest is definitely nice and short! ;)
I saw on the website the yield says 180g per plant, I was like Calli smashed that! lol
 

Anon Emaus

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Its good going 12week from seed, to think mines 6week from seed and got another 11 ish weeks till she’s done. Deffo want to experiment with the autos. See how the yields compare and whether its worth doing a one plant auto DWC.
Yeah for sure, especially considering the weight you can pull with some of the strains.

With my experience so far I wouldn’t run less than 2 of their plants in the size space and under the size lights we use. I feel that 300g/10oz is right about the most you can push out of their big strains like Ripley’s OG in how we grow. I pulled 10oz consistently from Ripleys twice in a row and I had thought I’d get even more out of the second one because I gave it a lot of room and felt it went very well but it still only maxxed where Mephisto says at 300g’s. Maybe you could get another oz or two with it being the only plant in the space but i just don’t see it getting to the yeild you could with a pheno giving an extra 2 weeks of veg. You lack control when it comes to autos so you’re kinda tied down to how things are going to progress but once you learn whats going on you make it work how you want.

A good bit of their strains are smaller ones too, comes with faster seed to harvest as well. I’m actually popping 4 Mephisto beans right now to do a run of 4. I purposely chose the smallest strains I had so that they work well together.
 

Anon Emaus

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Very tempting lol but no neither should I! I think i’ll finish this one, and then get the seed collection out. Maybe try and finally finish Blue Dream off or the Critical 2.0. That was nice bud, although had root rot and was chopped a couple of weeks early. Be good to see what it can do without problems. Can’t remember what that yielded, I think it was 11 ounce.
Then I think i’ll try the auto experiment!
I was actually going to grow Critical 2.0 plus this run but yesterday when i pulled the seeds out I couldn’t help but change my mind to run mephisto strains instead lol
 

Anon Emaus

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View attachment 4029671 Sour Stomper in organic soil day 68 of 75 - 232g dry :bigjoint:
She had it pretty warm in the closet, and min & max temps stayed within a 10°C range, so pretty constant, which isn't necessarily the case outdoors in climates with short summers.
So not sure how she'd do outdoors - though her vigor does give reason to hope she's sturdy enough, and the time to harvest is definitely nice and short! ;)
Wooo, nice ass yeild! Let’s see some close ups(maybe u already posted some but i missed em)! Does yours reak like fruity grape?
 

calliandra

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Wooo, nice ass yeild! Let’s see some close ups(maybe u already posted some but i missed em)! Does yours reak like fruity grape?
Ah yes, she was a really grapey one - it was my last grow before my move end of last year and I'm shocked at how the memory is fading haha
I remember noting that it was not as complex as the NL#5xhaze pheno I got before that (too bad I didn't have the knowledge to clone that one back then, now THAT was a memorable smoke indeed!) and conundering about the limitations even of such a gorgeous automatic. (as in: you can't have it all!) But she still was an amazing smoke ;)

Haha sure, here's some bud porn https://www.rollitup.org/t/so-i-made-myself-some-calphos.921606/page-13#post-13161086
Actually I documented the whole grow in that thread, starts around page 8. She had an absolutely amazing structure!
I bet the Creme de la Chem, when given the space, would grow tertiary branches like the Sour Stomper did too.... dam... I really shouldn't... haha
I bought all 4 so that I could get the 20% discount :bigjoint:

I'm popping Double Grape, Sour Livers, Toof Decay & Sour Stomper right now! Super stoked about running Sour Stomper again, it got screwed up the first run but still came out amazing, can't wait to do it right!
Oh awesome!!
Of course I'm interested - to see them alll haha :bigjoint:

Sorry calli, I took off on vacation to mexico after that last harvest so just seeing this now! Unfortunately I did not, I barely even took too many photos. So far I've grown: Ripleys OG, Skylar White, SODK, Toofless Alien, Heisenberg Special, Sour Stomper. So if you have any questions about them or want me to describe one and post any photos I have just let me know =)!

Here are the photos I have of Skylar. She is a pretty good yeilder, I still got 4.6 oz out of her when she was crammed behind Ripleys OG that took over and layed her down. The frostiest buds I've ever seen or grown. The high is really smooth calm but potent. Nice earthy aroma to her. Bud structure was very nice, pretty dense.


Photo of 3 nugs, she's on the left. The blurry above view photo, she was in the back right and basically ran along the back row however most of the nugs are layed over on their side from Ripleys pushing back.
Haha great to see her actually with some green on her!
I was beginning to wonder, mine was just sooo blonde in the later part of the grow I was beginnign to philosophize about "the real" Skylar White also being so blond haha
But even in a healthier state than mine was, her buds still have that same effect.

Actually I don't wonder all too much about her having done well in your setup despite getting pushed back like that.
I noticed that during her growth phase she is very adaptable - she would realign her branches within hours of LST in a bendy, swingy way, as if flowing aoround the newly established obstacles...
LOL no idea if that makes sense, hard to describe, maybe a pic helps:
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Check out the side branch on the left, tied down with that brownish wire - that's what I mean haha

Cheers!:bigjoint:
 
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calliandra

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That's about as close to perfection as a plant will ever get!
Yeah, that green!
Are you going to let her go for another bit or flip soon? :D

Its good going 12week from seed, to think mines 6week from seed and got another 11 ish weeks till she’s done. Deffo want to experiment with the autos. See how the yields compare and whether its worth doing a one plant auto DWC.
Yeah I'm looking to figure that out too, even with the Mephisto's I'm not sure their speed can make up for the masses routinely possible from photoperiods... I think actually they'd be best in a staggered 2 plant setup, another thought I've been toying with, and that has popped back to mind with our conversation here - especially since I just watched a video on breeding and how difficult and longwinded it can be if you're not just propagating a very stable strain :shock:
LOL I do think I need to sort my basics more before I go down that road...

Oh! And finally, Innsbruck is stocked back up on OSB boards - and of course I ran to get mine straight away! So today I'm going to do some Sunday-compatible, quiet electric and venting detail work, and tomorrow start closing those walls :D
For the time this has taken, I'll believe it when it's done haha :eyesmoke:
Cheers!
 

Anon Emaus

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Ah yes, she was a really grapey one - it was my last grow before my move end of last year and I'm shocked at how the memory is fading haha
I remember noting that it was not as complex as the NL#5xhaze pheno I got before that (too bad I didn't have the knowledge to clone that one back then, now THAT was a memorable smoke indeed!) and conundering about the limitations even of such a gorgeous automatic. (as in: you can't have it all!) But she still was an amazing smoke ;)

Haha sure, here's some bud porn https://www.rollitup.org/t/so-i-made-myself-some-calphos.921606/page-13#post-13161086
Actually I documented the whole grow in that thread, starts around page 8. She had an absolutely amazing structure!
I bet the Creme de la Chem, when given the space, would grow tertiary branches like the Sour Stomper did too.... dam... I really shouldn't... haha

Oh awesome!!
Of course I'm interested - to see them alll haha :bigjoint:


Haha great to see her actually with some green on her!
I was beginning to wonder, mine was just sooo blonde in the later part of the grow I was beginnign to philosophize about "the real" Skylar White also being so blond haha
But even in a healthier state than mine was, her buds still have that same effect.

Actually I don't wonder all too much about her having done well in your setup despite getting pushed back like that.
I noticed that during her growth phase she is very adaptable - she would realign her branches within hours of LST in a bendy, swingy way, as if flowing aoround the newly established obstacles...
LOL no idea if that makes sense, hard to describe, maybe a pic helps:
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Check out the side branch on the left, tied down with that brownish wire - that's what I mean haha

Cheers!:bigjoint:
Wow that was an amazing plant, awesome job! I loved the effects from sour stomper so that just makes it 100x better too haha

Yeah if i remember correctly my Skylar had those waxy green type leaves, on the darker side in color.
Totally agree, it wasn’t until like a few weeks before chop that i even realized she was laying horizontal back there and she looked great still. Lol very nice n bendy!

What mephisto strains have you grown so far?
 

calliandra

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Wow that was an amazing plant, awesome job! I loved the effects from sour stomper so that just makes it 100x better too haha

Yeah if i remember correctly my Skylar had those waxy green type leaves, on the darker side in color.
Totally agree, it wasn’t until like a few weeks before chop that i even realized she was laying horizontal back there and she looked great still. Lol very nice n bendy!

What mephisto strains have you grown so far?
Yeah she was a beauty indeed! Hope I can grow bushes like that again soon!

I've grown only the Sour Stomper and the Skylar White - but I just got myself the Creme de la Chem and the Cosmic Queen, I just couldn't resist! So those will be upcoming :D

Speaking of seeds, how do you store yours? I used to keep mine in the cellar which was at a pretty constant 8-12°C, but my new cellar is always at 15°C, and I think I ruined all my veggie seeds because I forgot to take them downstairs one year and they had it too warm... wouldn't want that happening to my cannabis seeds!
so, fridge? Wouldn't it be too humid in there though?
Cheers!
 

Anon Emaus

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Yeah she was a beauty indeed! Hope I can grow bushes like that again soon!

I've grown only the Sour Stomper and the Skylar White - but I just got myself the Creme de la Chem and the Cosmic Queen, I just couldn't resist! So those will be upcoming :D

Speaking of seeds, how do you store yours? I used to keep mine in the cellar which was at a pretty constant 8-12°C, but my new cellar is always at 15°C, and I think I ruined all my veggie seeds because I forgot to take them downstairs one year and they had it too warm... wouldn't want that happening to my cannabis seeds!
so, fridge? Wouldn't it be too humid in there though?
Cheers!
Haha I don’t blame ya, who could resist!! After reading that Cosmic Queen story I’m looking forward to that one the most!

I just keep them in a sealed glass jar in a safe where room temp is generally 20C. After reading Mephistos guide(attached) though I’ll be moving any long term seeds to a sealed glass jar(balls jar) and into my fridge. I know , I thought that about humidity too but i guess being in original bag or mephs plastic vile and then being in a jar i guess they’d be okay. I’ll do some searching, i could even vaccuum seal em before fridging too
 

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TheStickMan

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That's about as close to perfection as a plant will ever get!
Yeah, that green!
Are you going to let her go for another bit or flip soon? :D


Yeah I'm looking to figure that out too, even with the Mephisto's I'm not sure their speed can make up for the masses routinely possible from photoperiods... I think actually they'd be best in a staggered 2 plant setup, another thought I've been toying with, and that has popped back to mind with our conversation here - especially since I just watched a video on breeding and how difficult and longwinded it can be if you're not just propagating a very stable strain :shock:
LOL I do think I need to sort my basics more before I go down that road...

Oh! And finally, Innsbruck is stocked back up on OSB boards - and of course I ran to get mine straight away! So today I'm going to do some Sunday-compatible, quiet electric and venting detail work, and tomorrow start closing those walls :D
For the time this has taken, I'll believe it when it's done haha :eyesmoke:
Cheers!
Thank you! And I was going to let her go another week, but been working things out timewise and I might have to flip tomorrow lol or leave another 2 weeks in veg, not sure what to do! I might be away for a couple of weeks in Jan and I don’t want it to overdry when I go away! Need to have a think!
And great news on your grow room! Good luck boarding it up tomorrow, show us some pics when you’re done! :smile:
 

TheStickMan

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Thank you! And I was going to let her go another week, but been working things out timewise and I might have to flip tomorrow lol or leave another 2 weeks in veg, not sure what to do! I might be away for a couple of weeks in Jan and I don’t want it to overdry when I go away! Need to have a think!
And great news on your grow room! Good luck boarding it up tomorrow, show us some pics when you’re done! :smile:
Had a think, just put the timer on 12/12! Yay lol
2 more weeks of veg plus then 2 weeks of stretch in transition, she’d be an absolute monster and probably too big for the tent. So her due date is 10 weeks from now, which will be new years day! I’m hoping it doesn’t impact on yield too much! But to be honest, I just want to be able to finish the grow with no root rot this time lol
 

calliandra

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Haha I don’t blame ya, who could resist!! After reading that Cosmic Queen story I’m looking forward to that one the most!

I just keep them in a sealed glass jar in a safe where room temp is generally 20C. After reading Mephistos guide(attached) though I’ll be moving any long term seeds to a sealed glass jar(balls jar) and into my fridge. I know , I thought that about humidity too but i guess being in original bag or mephs plastic vile and then being in a jar i guess they’d be okay. I’ll do some searching, i could even vaccuum seal em before fridging too
ah cool - I really like your jar idea!
We could just stick a hygrometer in there too, to make sure all's well regarding the humidity. 8-)

But if I do that with all my seeds, I'm going to need a second fridge hahaa
Nah, I think the more common ones like alfalfa, beans, pumpkins etc will have to make do with the 15° in the cellar.

And great news on your grow room! Good luck boarding it up tomorrow, show us some pics when you’re done! :smile:
yeah I better get going then, yesterday I ended up thinking about my soils and composts and plant nutrition all day instead haha

And hey, congrats on your decision to flip! The way she looks, with such a nicely spread base, I don't think you need to worry about yields at all!

Cheers and have a good week guys! :bigjoint:
 

TheStickMan

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ah cool - I really like your jar idea!
We could just stick a hygrometer in there too, to make sure all's well regarding the humidity. 8-)

But if I do that with all my seeds, I'm going to need a second fridge hahaa
Nah, I think the more common ones like alfalfa, beans, pumpkins etc will have to make do with the 15° in the cellar.


yeah I better get going then, yesterday I ended up thinking about my soils and composts and plant nutrition all day instead haha

And hey, congrats on your decision to flip! The way she looks, with such a nicely spread base, I don't think you need to worry about yields at all!

Cheers and have a good week guys! :bigjoint:
You know its something i’ve never given a thought, how I store my seeds! I have always just kept them wrapped up in an envelope in the drawer! Majority of them are inside the little vials they come in, other than Dutch Passions shite thats just in a bag with some little polystyrene balls or whatever lol won’t be growing them again anyways! lol surely they aren’t kept in special conditions when they are in storage before you buy them? Certainly not from the shop, theyre just in a glass unit ready for sale?
And its been 12 hours since I flipped and can’t see any pistils or budsites! She’s taking ages! lol :P
I hope you’ve been busy with that drill today! Haha
Hope you have a good un too! :p
 

horribleherk

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this grow I vegged 42 days as the clones were small my estimate of total days is 100 I think by vegging the plants under the t-5s I can cut that down to about 80 as larger plants vegging under t-5 usually take off faster once put under the leds as they would already be topped such as this one in the pic which in another month will be a lot bigger & if you were to get a 48-55 day finisher like hso black dog you could speed that up I'm real close to being perpetual & cloning gives you the advantage of knowing exactly how the plant is going to perform after the flip IMG_3138.JPG
 

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