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4 Inches is all them girls need?

Discussion in 'Advanced Marijuana Cultivation' started by Cold$moke, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:59 PM.

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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member


    I hear you BUT NOW IMAGINE IF THAT TREE HAD BEEN! :)
    Also i didnt see anywhere where Dr.whitcomb lets a plant BECOME ROOT BOUND

    If anything this is what he is fighting, GIRDLED LANKY ENCIRCLING roots

    And if you actually whatch his videos (i know it takes time to watch)
    He is really agaisnt crappy nursery trees
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2018 at 2:40 PM
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Yes that is the vid i mentioned in the first post.
    This is where i discoverd the method

    But the DR. Actually gives more in depth break down of whats going on

    Im tech stupid ill try and post a link lol

    Your good vostock your not lost budd
    I typed a shitload in the first post lol
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2018 at 5:23 PM
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    BloomFielder

    BloomFielder Well-Known Member

    Will try to post pics later(maybe) grew some sinmints that way but I quite didn' see much difference as i wouldnt have: used the rockwool until the roots branched out from the sides, transfered into moist coco allowing it dry n only continue watering only the rockwool allowing the roots to run through coco freely in aeration until completely dry, then continue to water whole medium an as usual.
    Never seen anyone take it to that level of "f***n roots" as he states, either, dude does an amazing job but his bud looks so bad..other grows I've seen growing autos, and yes I've seen autos hit 10-11 ft and yielding at least a pound in the outdoor suburbs but end product quality prove to stray away from em /maybe Grower error.
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2018 at 2:46 PM
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    The video is called
    "improving plant root structure Dr. Carl whitcomb give full lecture"

    Its a little dry and long but packed with tidbits
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    I agree on the looks of the buds

    But props none the less to growing an auto that BIG i surely have never seen anyone do it.

    Also its not just letting the roots grow from the sides so much as it is building a huge store of roots

    Which when allowed to be free should explode
    With roots dr whitcombs example pics are crazy!

    Mabey you just didnt let the roots build up enough first?

    Thanks for the replies
     
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    Flowki

    Flowki Well-Known Member

    I agree it works but I don't think the maximum restriction is a 4 inch pot. How can that single size be true for every tree let alone plant?.
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Whatch the video he can explain better than me as im not a botanist.

    I think it has to do with hormonal changes that happens to the tap root after it exceeds 4 inches.

    Basically if you kill the main tap root it sends replacement TAP style roots
    By confining it you turn the tap root off and engage lateral roots.

    Like i said im not a dr. Nor phd nor botanist nor farmer. So i might be expaining it badly ; )

    Basically you want to train the root to grow horizontal in that first 4 inches

    Im sure the same result could happen with a 6 inch cube .

    But im sticking to the guy that has done thousand of hours :)
     
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    twistedvinesofbud

    twistedvinesofbud Well-Known Member


    Typically a plant being root bound is a bad thing root starvation and deprivation. A plant being root bound will starve the roots and stress the plants which could reduce the potency and quality of the plant.

    Has anyone ever seen a pot plant get root bound? I'm sure it can happen
     
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    Flowki

    Flowki Well-Known Member

    As far as mj goes I think it's uncommon in practice. Most newb growers can't get a good enough root system to risk bounding while experienced growers have the correct pot size or style to accommodate.
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    I trim off any long roots at each re-potting to force them to branch out and fill the pot from top to bottom with lots of fine feeder roots. Even when moving them from little starter cups I just snip off the bottom of the root ball with sccisors or with bigger pots use a bread knife to saw the bottom off and even shave down the sides to get rid of any stringy roots.

    Roots branch out just like the top portion of the plant does when it gets topped.

    RootPrune02.jpg

    :peace:
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    All of which is disscussed in dr. Whitcombs research.

    It real and its out there.
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    @Dr.Who
    @Odin* @Kingrow1 @Flowki @OldMedUser

    Im not SAYING ANYONE OR MYSELF IS RIGHT

    BUT IM WAITING......... FOR REASERCH STUDIES. THAT SHOW THIS WOULD BE BAD............

    unfortunately i will keep on with my experiments

    Till someone comes here with more then forum talk :)
    @budman111 would like to hear your side of the story as well sir

    Till then its about as worthless as a untopped marijuna plant in the wild (doubt its good).

    But please prove me wrong as im here to learn not bicker

    Peace
     
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    Kingrow1

    Kingrow1 Well-Known Member

    Youll just make the same amount of surface area of root hairs wether you prune or not.

    Air pots might fill the volume of soil more efficiently but they dont increase yeilds over normal pots.

    The main idea was so you could have bigger plants in smaller pots thus increading floor space for more plants.

    Yer airpots and root pruning works a treat but dont be thinking they increase biological efficiency.
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    You keep refering to air pots!

    Who the hells talking about air pots!

    Im going to be building the base roots to go into
    A rdwc and a meniscus membrane flood and drain table. ......

    Still obviously you didnt do any research on what IM talking about :(

    Still no proof to make me stop unfortunately
    But i appreciate the responses.

    Im not trying to be argumentative but please post something with a backbone that i can look up.

    Your OPPINON of an air pots preformance is MOOT unless you have done the aforementioned root BUILDING IN THE FIRST STAGES OF LIFE .

    Again these are not going in an AIRPOT!
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Again not trying to be a dick
    But i wants facts backed up with proof. Of some kind

    The rest is just oppinon and heresay
     
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    Kingrow1

    Kingrow1 Well-Known Member

    Simple answer is yes it works but no it dosent make a difference, if thats too complicated refer to my above post on biological efficiency.

    Most likely your struggling to root a rockwool cube is all :-)
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member


    Oh all the sudden it works but doesnt matter ;)
     
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    Kingrow1

    Kingrow1 Well-Known Member

    Prove us wrong then :-)
     
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    Kingrow1

    Kingrow1 Well-Known Member

    Why bother with it is my question? Build roots wow, still get outyeilded by those that dont bother but simply have it dialled in....
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Well the way i see it should be easy heres a root ball at about 4 weeks since it left the cloner i use kelp and humic thats why my roots are dark

    20180113_152842.jpg

    So after i transer a plant that i build the roots up
    I will take another pic @ 4 weeks :) should be clear as day and have SOMETHING to show
     

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