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waveman

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I'm trying to maximize production as a Micro Tier II grower in Oregon with an existing 35'x40' shop with 13' high ceilings and an attached 10x20 room previously used for painting. An Upgraded UT 50 STD 120 transformer will allow for up to 20kW of flowering lights. With the transformer becoming the limiting factor I have scaled back my expectations to 8lbs every 3 weeks rather than the 15lbs every three weeks I was aiming for.

My previous grow had a flowering area in a 6'x6' tent with 4-600W air cooled lights. I had 3 18 gallon res tanks which sprayed roots inside of 6' post sleeves 1 min out of every 5.

In this next grow the flowering room will be 22'x 24' with adjacent 22'x8' veg room. The flowering room will be divided into SIX 8'x10.5' sections designed to support two strains at three stages of growth separated by 3 weeks time.

Each of these 8'x10.5' sections will have:

1. light fixture with 84 COBs running at 37W
2. two 50 gal res tanks
3. 8 - 10.5' pvc rails with 12 - 2" net potted plants per rail

WHY? with micro controlled nutrient drip systems on res tanks (located outside of flower room walls) The grow should run itself. In the small scale run grow the res tanks did not need to be changed at all during the 9 weeks of flowering time. I believe 1 full time person and 1 part time person can handle the trimming and breeding of the plants. I was planning on the flowering room will be sealed so CO2 generators will be used. I'm trying to determine where I should set the CO2 level at to not waste gas. Since propane will need to be delivered I'm trying to determine cost and to see if running a sealed grow is feasible at this size. In my 6'x6' tent I had gas in bottles which I refilled.

My questions are many. Here are a few:

How does a COB every 1.0 square feet compare with 4 600 watt HPS in 36 square feet? In other words how do the light values compare between 36 COBs run at 37Watts to 4 600W HPS (assuming both of these set ups covered 36 sqft?

What level of CO2 should be ran if sealed? Given the flowering room will be 6,900 cubic feet with 576 plants growing with a density of 1 plant per 0.875 square feet. How many CO2 generators will be required and how much propane gas will that require per month? I'm wondering if venting the grow and smell filtering the output will be what I actually go with because of cost.

With the 1600 square feet roof area being used for rain catching with one 2500 gallon water tank be enough to run the grow assuming average rainfall here in the Willamette valley of Oregon? Every 3 weeks the flowering room will consume 4x50gal for nutrient fill and 4x50gal plain water for flush. How much water will be lost in evapotranspiration? If I ran a sealed grow with dehumidifiers draining back into water system is there any water loss at all?
 
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BigHornBuds

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With your big spot , I'd divide it into 4 groups, and fill each spot every 2 weeks
That way you'll be harvesting every 2 weeks
(8 week strains)
The painting room would be veg, cloning , moms , equipment etc.

Buy one CO2 gen for your square footage
C02 is heavier then air so I have 2 big fans on the floor pushing up . Plus 1 wall fan per light.

I'm using 1 drieasy 1200 Dehumitifer for 4 1000w DE lights , but if I where going to be over 6 I'd add another.
The mini split will help with humility during lights on. I'm using a 30000btu unit I think for a 6.5x15x9 room . For a room your size I'd want a mini split for 3 or 4 rooms and put them on each wall
Run your lights at night , makes cooling the room easier.

Run your CO2 around 1000/1500ppm
I use sential CO2 controller for a sealed room.
I'm running natural gas so can't answer your propane usage
I have mine set to come on 1 hour after the light turn on, it shuts off 2.5 hours before lights off so the plants can use the CO2 n bring the levels down for dark.

I wouldn't use rain water unless there's a plan to filter . It gathers dust n dirt from roofs etc.
with the dehumidifier n AC running back into your res you will still lose water .

I run 4 plants under each light , and get 3 plus pounds a light , and I'm working on more .

I find it easier to deal with less & a lot bigger plants

I find with lights (led/hps) there is no replacement for displacement, bigger lights , bigger flowers

I'm not sold on leds,
I wouldn't run 600s either , put a 1000de over every 4x4 spot, change ur bulb every 3-4 crops or when the par starts to drop and enjoys the big buds .
The new bulbs r supposed to last a year but time will tell.
 

Anothermeduser

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Id haul water before rain water..ph might be fucked and possible contaminents, pollution..If you want to talk about low pressure spray feeding with nft or aero chambers i can contribute, i see you did some experiments with tube. I ran many different configurations of aero myself and see you mention your faith in it..only posting as there is almost no info on it and what is there is mostly misleading imo.....
 

redi jedi

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Why flip flop? So if you have 8 lights only 4 run at a time but in a staggered pattern??

What is the benefit lower power usage? How does it effect yield?
@Carolina Dream'n
Two flower rooms flipping back and forth...ones on..the other off...doubles output with amount of power available. Also doubles your power consumption or more if your on a time of use meter.
 

Carolina Dream'n

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Why flip flop? So if you have 8 lights only 4 run at a time but in a staggered pattern??

What is the benefit lower power usage? How does it effect yield?
@Carolina Dream'n
You split the lights so they are 2 rooms running 12/12. Therefore there as always lights on. It helps by allowing you to spread power out.

The more lights in a room the more yield from overlap. so yea spreading them out does affect yield slightly.
 
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