6" x 22 " 558 samsung 561c led panel

You weren't kidding about the thick stems.

OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:

..modified flood and drain inserts will be used

Click to expand...

Great looking over all, @OLD MOTHER SATIVA !

Slightly off topic, but could you tell me about your rez's from the quoted post? Brand, size, etc?

OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:

just turfed the skinny ag because the nanners were gonna be a problem and the early sample was good but not good enough
[didn't swallow my tongue]
i coulda used it for something but i justrammed it in the trash bin..
as my friend says:
"cull with extreme prejudice"

i will be testing the sample heat sinks on the 250 w pcb at 250 w to see if the heatsink work at full tilt..then three @200 w each
...my new 600w secret View attachment 4032180 View attachment 4032181 [jk] drivers are on the way
but i gotta say running 6 x 250w panels @ 100w each only needs a bit of air on it to stay really cool and really covers a 4 x 4
or 5 x 5 area well..also i can get really close..

even if the heatsinks work well i just dunno ..after growing with these things the 6 x 6" x 22" panels per frame seem dang good..

got some other inflower here is a newly flipped LCATHG sativa [last chance at the holy grail ]

very thick stalks massively dense branching right from the start

Click to expand...

Nice plants , great work ?
What distance to canopy are you running ? Actual watts ? Taken any par readings of current set up..? What color temp are your boards ? where available ? thanks

1.

Dave455 said:

Nice plants , great work ?
What distance to canopy are you running ? Actual watts ? Taken any par readings of current set up..? What color temp are your boards ? where available ? thanks

Click to expand...

.thanks
.second run this time even close..around 6"
taken readings ...par meter broke[don't get hydro galaxy].. coverage was pretty even 4 x4 ..
3000k vegs and flowers very well
getting some smaller upgraded panels made..then get this size upgraded
will have website

joecanna17 said:

Great looking over all, @OLD MOTHER SATIVA !

Slightly off topic, but could you tell me about your rez's from the quoted post? Brand, size, etc?

Click to expand...

thanks..4' x4' 100 gal..my design pex feed grid..modified flood and drain insert..i love this method
used to grow trees
like that too but have higher legal plant count

OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:

thanks..4' x4' 100 gal..my design pex feed grid..modified flood and drain insert..i love this method
used to grow trees
like that too but have higher legal plant count

Click to expand...

Damn, I was hoping they were a little smaller than 100gal, but was afraid you might say that. I like the 4x4 rez for a good shallow fit in the tent, but don't want to spend the $100+ they usually want for them, and definitely don't want to use 100gal on every rez change! I guess the search for the perfect rez continues lol

Like you, I do love a modified recirculating system, and LEDs, so I'll be cheering you on from over here.

Good luck!

first proto type using passive heatsink
rather than one fan per 6 x 22" panel
or
running 6 x 250 w panel at 100w with just air movement[amazingly cool]

single passive heatsink panel..up to 160w

dual passive heatsinks with panels 320w

fan cooling is way cheaper..

i like the air movement too,

but no doubt about passive heatsinks look good and become their own light infra structure

the new one i am getting will be

9"x 10" and have 340 diodes

i actually think that getting two of these made on one 9 x 22" panel

with separate dc in puts is the best idea

but i will do this new single one first..

because they are more versatile..

here is a chunky sativa under the 6" x 22" ..

re samson leds /panels for growing

this is how samsung panels started

with strips first

here are the estionian strips i started with

things are doing pretty dang good iam testing flower with a 5000k vs 3000k

i was told once i go 5k..i won't wanna do it any other way

someone has to be nuts enough to do this..i'm game








below.. the taller mex starting to flower under the 6 x 22 panels

OLD MOTHER SATIVA said:

re samson leds /panels for growing

this is how samsung panels started

with strips first

here are the estionian strips i started with

View attachment 4059381 things are doing pretty dang good iam testing flower with a 5000k vs 3000k

i was told once i go 5k..i won't wanna do it any other way

someone has to be nuts enough to do this..i'm game








below.. the taller mex starting to flower under the 6 x 22 panels

View attachment 4059384

Click to expand...

Sun is around 4100k from what I understand.

interesting.

quote from web search
The color temperature of sunlight above the atmosphere is about 5900 K.
Daylight has a spectrum similar to that of a black body with a correlated color temperature of 6500 K
(D65 viewing standard) or 5500 K (daylight-balanced photographic film standard).


here is the same mexican genetics under 5000k in a warmer room..
flowering is so far as good as the 3000k..but the person who told i should do this said
"once you try it you will thank me and continue"
he says the cannibanoids ballgo together and make something better than just the sum of their parts
he also said to leave it flower an insane amount of weeks..all the leaves will fall off and it will become
true medicine for the body and spirit..
that said ..waiting 24 weeks on a 12 week strain sounds out there ..the dying/curing on the vine thing appeals tome ..and i embrace opions of people who do not care about fast
crop turn over..and i only want something special..we will see how she goes

now for something completely different:

both these are cri 80 , 6" x 22" km panels

i have been advised that flowering @5000k will eventually give me superior medicine

that all the leaves will die off[captain i already see leaf weirdness]..the cannibinoids will "go together"[very technical..not my words]......sounds like senescence..and rhymes with orange

and letting it flower twice as long as most people would dream of[24 weeks]..[still waiing to see if i have the guts for that]

being one not to phone into the adam dunn show to hear conventional wisdom[[joke]

i am going to listen to revthnatural's advice and give these glorious mexes a shot at other worldly elevation

there are three mex phenos i there so shape and size are not constant..ie.tall pheno mostly under 5000k i
n the end i will compare pheno to pheno..

because its

3000k



5000k

ALL about the high

will keep yuz posted

i use ro ,dry mixable npk, silicon nitrate,calcium nitrate, magnesium nitrate

and when i am really on the ball[ not this time ], dry mixable fulvic ,kelp and amino's

eventually i will upload photos

but this is the


"contrary to everyones previous thoughts..blue light and flowering your plants twice as long as you normally would

will maket the best cannabis you have never tried" grow

all the leaves will die..

i have a 3000K and a 5000k in flower now and so far the method is not looking stupid..aux contraire

so i am supposed to run this mex 24 weeks with 5000k

indicas' well apparently more like only 20wks..will not be trying indicas at this point

will see if i can take 24 weeks..

apparently..using blue..and twice the length of flower time.


"all the cannibinoids 'go together' and make real healing medicine body and soul ..that is more than the sum of its parts.."



ps.. if you have not done the exact same thing ..which i am sure no one has..

then just let it sink in..

pps so far there is a strange "resin sweat "on even the smaller leaves that is not on the 3000k

same clones same environment..yeh we will see...

but 24 weeks..?...........fuuuuuk

One of the best runs I've ever had, both for yield and quality was mixing up 3000/4000/5000k using LED, CFL's, and LED bulbs in my breeding tent. I just needed some extra heat in there so threw in a mix of LED bulbs and CFL's on a DIY panel until the temps got to where I wanted them. I really like the idea of mixing spectrum with these diode based boards. Whenever I get into them that's exactly what I'll be looking to build or buy.

I run 5000k and 3000k in veg and flower. I get plenty of dead leaves at the end. I was told cannabis folks are backwards regarding light spectrum going with 3000k over 5000k. The two mixed together is termed natural daylight.

VegasWinner said:

I run 5000k and 3000k in veg and flower. I get plenty of dead leaves at the end. I was told cannabis folks are backwards regarding light spectrum going with 3000k over 5000k. The two mixed together is termed natural daylight.

Click to expand...

Correct....The sun is around 4100 I understand..

This may not be 100% accurate, but being by Canon, I would expect it to be close. Their diagram says 4,800K for direct sunlight.

thanks for the input

next we may see about the 24 wks thing..

Just watch out for mold issues after the normal cycle. I did that a few times and mold is big if the budz are big.

i totally agree that the long long long growing period is fraut with danger.....

one table is 3000k other is 5000k..

DesertPlants said:

This may not be 100% accurate, but being by Canon, I would expect it to be close. Their diagram says 4,800K for direct sunlight.

Click to expand...

You guys have to remember that "sunlight" changes colour throughout the day, at different latitudes and altitudes, and at different times of the year. Light is redder near the tropics due to the thicker atmosphere around the equator, and bluer in low ozone highland areas where the atmosphere is thinner. It's also redder in autumn and winter - again due to the sun's angle having to penetrate thicker atmosphere. Plants flower in autumn, when overall sunlight is at a lower kelvin temperature relative to summer.