900w LED Grow 3xOG 1x Gorilla Glue #4

JaneSays95 said:

Do you use ladybugs?

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I've heard ladybugs are great if you have a well regulated and sealed environment. I personally, haven't used them, and my grow room isn't sealed.

I've only had to deal with spidermites three times in seven years. The first was really late in flower, and I just chopped them a little early and hung the entire plant upside down, those little buggers hated that lol, after I pulled all of the fan leaves they just huddled up at the very top of the stem leaving everything else alone, so weird.. the next two times I caught them early, and switching up foliar sprays between garlic, neem oil, and ground up red pepper in varying combinations, they were gone in about a week once the plants became heathy enough to fend then off on they're own.

BotanyIsFun said:

Personally, I think two plants with about 6 weeks of veg will yeild you a pound for sure. I'm thinking this harvest is only going to be 8 - 10 oz due to having too many plants with too little veg time. And, yeah, the manufacturer says 418 and a couple of reviews I read say close to 425 actual draw, but as far as overall intensity/footprint of the light this thing is kicking the pants off of my 400w HID setup. I think your 3x5^2 scrog idea is great! I'd suggest going with the more square model and it'd work beautifully!

My next run I'm going to stick with two GG#4's the structure is amazing, and the smell is mouth watering. One thing is for sure though, I'll be amending the soil a bit for them next time with blood and bone meal, as they're little nutrient vampires lol!

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here is what's coming together now with very little work I can make thes scrog 42"x42" square & my stand the scrog attaches to is setup for 2 waterfarms side-by-side which I already have just waiting to harvest & upgrade thanks for the info as I trust your opinion/experience & after over a year shutdown it's time to kick it up a notch I have a larger hps but want the effiency of a led but seeing as I haven't won the lotto it's gonna be a vipar

BotanyIsFun said:

I've heard ladybugs are great if you have a well regulated and sealed environment. I personally, haven't used them, and my grow room isn't sealed.

I've only had to deal with spidermites three times in seven years. The first was really late in flower, and I just chopped them a little early and hung the entire plant upside down, those little buggers hated that lol, after I pulled all of the fan leaves they just huddled up at the very top of the stem leaving everything else alone, so weird.. the next two times I caught them early, and switching up foliar sprays between garlic, neem oil, and ground up red pepper in varying combinations, they were gone in about a week once the plants became heathy enough to fend then off on they're own.

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I thought I saw one in the pictures down near the bottom of a pic that ends in 1210.jpg

I put out some predator mites as a preventative and they were less effective; there's no way to completely keep them out even with the paint suit. I dropped a few ladybugs in as well, they don't really like to eat the predator mites, they are small; they seem to prefer spider mites though they don't like them all that much.

The reason that I asked is that I have a 300w led over blue magoo. It is a supplement for the short plant in the 1000w flower room. What I've noticed is that the ladybugs seem to hang out on that plant far more than the others. It is a bit bushier and provides a bit better shade but I half think it is the led and the light properties or something like that.

Oh, and I think the observations on gorilla glue are spot on. I grew it poorly my first try. It was very hard to sufficiently feed and I was using mostly BUD (not premium). I was also quite surprised at how long it wanted to go, perhaps because of my deficiencies. It only began to amber in the 9/10 week window, it stayed clear for a very long time though just packed with trichomes.

I so love the strain that I will return to it in the winter; I really want to get that one right.

JaneSays95 said:

I thought I saw one in the pictures down near the bottom of a pic that ends in 1210.jpg

I put out some predator mites as a preventative and they were less effective; there's no way to completely keep them out even with the paint suit. I dropped a few ladybugs in as well, they don't really like to eat the predator mites, they are small; they seem to prefer spider mites though they don't like them all that much.

The reason that I asked is that I have a 300w led over blue magoo. It is a supplement for the short plant in the 1000w flower room. What I've noticed is that the ladybugs seem to hang out on that plant far more than the others. It is a bit bushier and provides a bit better shade but I half think it is the led and the light properties or something like that.

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I went back and looked at the picture, and it totally does look like one is hanging out there, lol! Alas, is just the light shining on the frame of the screen.

You mentioned using predator mites as a preventative measure. Are you having issues with mites returning?
Have you tried Damsel Bugs? They may try to eat the predator mites though. They're a larger predator bug.

As far as the ladybugs just hanging out on the smaller, bushier plant, I think you've got the right idea. Possibly the intensity of the led, since the light is more directly focused?

In response to the second post:
I'm quite a fan of the GG as well, and feel with the proper amendments will be amazing! My favorite to grow so far has been Scott's OG, and am praying I get back my mother plant before her foster parent kills her. My next cycle I'm hoping, to use the colloidal silver method to flip one of the GG#4 clones to a male and breed it to the Scott's OG mother, as I think they would make some beautiful and potent babies.

I always assume there are mites. I have seen two in the last week when digging through the flowering plants. They always arrive on the plant nearest the door and I'll find one or two live plus dead ones from the predators, but I see far more predators than 2 spots so I don't worry too much. Predators are small, with frosty buds, they can't move well. Hence the ladybugs and only 25 or so in a 8x5 ish space.

Day 39 of flowering. Starting to head into my favorite part of the grow, those last two weeks where all of the TLC these girls have received through the cycle starts to show. The PH of the soil is remaining steady. Trich production is doing great, and they are beginning to transition to from clear to cloudy. The calyxes are beginning to swell, and are producing their sweet sweet aromas. The bus production has been pretty consistent across the board on all four clones. Can't wait to see what kind of weight these girls start packing on!

With that said... Enjoy the weed porn, lol!

It's all so pretty, I want to cry!

I think we can say this is definitely a success story I'm curious of your final yield as well as you're hittin on all 8

horribleherk said:

I think we can say this is definitely a success story I'm curious of your final yield as well as you're hittin on all 8

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Thank you!

Though, I believe that I'll only get about halfway to my intended yeild, but hey, time will tell with a good couple of weeks left.

With the less than optimal conditions of this cycle; such as, not amending the soil, only there weeks of veg, and not really making any nutrient teas to feed with. My HPS would have only yielded about 4 ounces of solid tops with a couple ounces of small nugs. So, if I can double that, I'll definitely consider this run a success.

BotanyIsFun said:

Thank you!

Though, I believe that I'll only get about halfway to my intended yeild, but hey, time will tell with a good couple of weeks left.

With the less than optimal conditions of this cycle; such as, not amending the soil, only there weeks of veg, and not really making any nutrient teas to feed with. My HPS would have only yielded about 4 ounces of solid tops with a couple ounces of small nugs. So, if I can double that, I'll definitely consider this run a success.

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I think my strain choice is gonna limit my yield but I'll be correcting that as I ramp up for my next grow

Here we are at day 41. After examining the trichs on these girls, the GG#4 is about 50-60% milky with very few amber trichs, and the OG girls are at about 40-50% milky with some amber trichs sprinkled here and there.

Now on to the starlets of the show.

you might do better than you think you're gonna do all in all that looks very good you've got the light & you've got the genetics round #2 could be a real barn burner I'm looking at gg#4 & stardawg it's chem4-X-tresdawg the pinkpanties I'm growing is a notoriously small yielder but in my mind the next grow is taking shape

horribleherk said:

you might do better than you think you're gonna do all in all that looks very good you've got the light & you've got the genetics round #2 could be a real barn burner I'm looking at gg#4 & stardawg it's chem4-X-tresdawg the pinkpanties I'm growing is a notoriously small yielder but in my mind the next grow is taking shape

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Love the optimism!! My GAD tends to make me think the worst in any scenario, lol! But, I know the next round with this light will be better. And, I feel you on the notoriously small yeilding strains, OG has that rap too from what I've read at only a pound per 10 sq ft.

BotanyIsFun said:

Love the optimism!! My GAD tends to make me think the worst in any scenario, lol! But, I know the next round with this light will be better. And, I feel you on the notoriously small yeilding strains, OG has that rap too from what I've read at only a pound per 10 sq ft.

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I've grown a few og strains holy grail, Diablo & rp/Dna og & finally r/p skywalker which hands down was best of the bunch in all respects including yield on the flip side of the deal I've grown some high yielders that they did yield they just weren't any good the last one was female seeds white widow-X-big bud it just wasn't worth smoking I'm really curious about the gg#4 ,smell,taste & high can't wait for the chop

BotanyIsFun said:

Here we are at day 41. After examining the trichs on these girls, the GG#4 is about 50-60% milky with very few amber trichs, and the OG girls are at about 40-50% milky with some amber trichs sprinkled here and there.

Now on to the starlets of the show.

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just looked at your pics again I'm really liking the looks of the gg#4 I'm also looking at some chemdawg cuts as well as a sour'd-X-train wreck cross called allenwrench all capable of quality product & a fair amount of it my last few grows have given me unreal quality just not much of it & ive also shot myself in the foot growing high yielders that weren't worth trimming up

Day 47. Looks like I may be chopping these girls Saturday morning. Now, I know some people would call harvesting at the end of week 7 blasphemy, lol.
However, my personal preference, especially when growing indica dominant strains, is to harvest when the majority of the trichs are cloudy with a little clear and very few amber. And, that is where these girls are at. So we'll see how the bud/trich production goes these next couple of days and go from there.

The first four pictures from yesterday and the last five a are from today.

So, we've reached the end of our little journey. Harvested and trimmed the girls last night, and while I wouldn't consider the grow a total success, I wouldn't necessarily say it was a failure either.

Final wet weight:

OG tops - 271.5 grams
OG smalls/sugar leaf - 110.7 grams

GG#4 tops - 104.2 grams
GG#4 smalls/sugar leaf - 57.4 grams

We'll see, but my estimate based on 70% loss of weight is around 163.14 grams total dry weight. Which will be about 5.8 ounces.

The fail factor: target weight not reached, only 5.8oz of the 16oz goal.

The success factors: I've read that the average yield for OG Kush is about 44.8 grams/sq ft, and I couldn't really find that info on GG#4. This harvest will yield about 39.5 g/sq ft. That's not bad at all considering these girls only had three weeks of veg, seven weeks of flower, no added nutrients, and no amended soil. Combine those with slight nitrogen and phosphorus deficiencies, I'd say this was a pretty good test run, and with the proper corrections I'll be able to at least double that output with the next run.

Here are some shots of everything hanging and then trimmed. I'll post more along with a final weigh, before jarring everything up for the cure.

given the chemdawg/ sour' genetics of the gg#4 it should outyield the og.kush looking forward to you applying what you've learned into round#2 I'm not completely happy with the structure of what I've got going now it looks good in a pic but my eye tells me she might not bulk up I'm sure a more sativa dominate strain will liven things up a bit meanwhile I'm gonna try to give this my best shot & make the most I can out of it as its my first waterfarm grow & im definitely learning from it here is this mornings pic my first bud - nubbins appeared July 20

horribleherk said:

given the chemdawg/ sour' genetics of the gg#4 it should outyield the og.kush looking forward to you applying what you've learned into round#2 I'm not completely happy with the structure of what I've got going now it looks good in a pic but my eye tells me she might not bulk up I'm sure a more sativa dominate strain will liven things up a bit meanwhile I'm gonna try to give this my best shot & make the most I can out of it as its my first waterfarm grow & im definitely learning from it here is this mornings pic my first bud - nubbins appeared July 20 View attachment 3751916View attachment 3751921

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Looking good herk!