A perfect cure every time

elkamino

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hey Simon...
First off, good stuff here =) I learned how to cure from this post!
hey, i was just rereading it, and noticed this comment above. I just got my hands on Next Gen's Grape-God, i see you have experience with this breeder, and grape-god's lineage is grapefruit and god-bud. I was just wondering if you had any info on the strain, i know they are different strains, but maybe you have experience with the G.god as well? I have it in seedling phase now, just wondering if there was any tips you had with the strain, ie how did grapefruit handle nutrients, how was the stretch, stuff like that....thanks a lot Simon.
Dude. OP's not been here for 2 years now. Might have better luck asking elsewhere, like:

https://www.rollitup.org/f/seed-and-strain-reviews.43/
 

outlier

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I have a jar of bud that smells like alcohol after a 2 and a bit week stint, only briefly when you first open it. The smell after is like mandarin orange, so sweet and I ain't complaining :bigjoint:

Never had that before and other jars cured the same way don't seem to have it. Anyone know what it is, or more importantly should I be concerned?

Bud is about 4-5 weeks into the cure process and it is as smooth as silk and tastes as sweet as it smells. Can't tell any difference between other jars smoke wise but I still get a strong alcohol stench when I first pop the jar. Bit like my wife's breath after a big night on the vodka... lol
 
I just bought some Boveda , http://www.bovedainc.com/store/herbal/#c , store your greens up to a year without losing quality , maintaining 62 percent humidity , sounds like a no brainer to me . This is a great topic and post , thanks for posting this , this is so important to the product , I have spent thousands on my system to make everything just right , not including my time , I appreciate everyone's input , I want my product to be the best it can be . Anyone know when I should cover my buds with crystals to make the moon rocks ?? I would assume before cure , but not sure .
 

Rrog

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I'm in the minority here, and that's cool, but I like the idea of long term storage in inert glass. Once the Rh is where I want it, I don't need a plastic bag to maintain it. I'm not a fan of plastics on my food and Cannabis. But that's just me, mostly.
 

SamsonsRiddle

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i listened to all the advice and did everything i read repeated over and over again and was fooled once again. I set my carbon filter on its lowest setting (which kept a VERY LIGHT amount of air flowing out of the tent), kept my humidity between 50-55, and kept the temps at 68-70. I cut off the fan leaves and hung them up one by one with their 6-8 inch stem (after the buds). After 4 days i jarred them up and they are at 52%.

I'm totally bummed right now.
 

KingBlunted

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i listened to all the advice and did everything i read repeated over and over again and was fooled once again. I set my carbon filter on its lowest setting (which kept a VERY LIGHT amount of air flowing out of the tent), kept my humidity between 50-55, and kept the temps at 68-70. I cut off the fan leaves and hung them up one by one with their 6-8 inch stem (after the buds). After 4 days i jarred them up and they are at 52%.

I'm totally bummed right now.
After how long in the jar. They should sweat and raise above 52%
 

KingBlunted

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There is a glimmer of hope. I overreacted. they are now at 57% and awaiting my 62% boveda in the mail.

How often do you burp once you have a boveda in the jar?
Boveda is typically used once curing process is done. Burp daily at first. Then burp once a week. Then once every 2 weeks. Then u should be all done burping. As long as u r below 65% ur good. Above 70 is increased mold risk.

Do your stems snap or just bend?
 

SamsonsRiddle

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they snap. basically i was just looking for a way to get my overdryed bud back into the cure zone of 60-65. I don't want to use any peels or bread, and i decided to try boveda 62's, but have learned it's not very likely that it will rehydrate enough to get back into the cure zone.

This isn't my first time curing, and most times i get them in the jar at 65-68 and bring them down to 62 and keep it there for about 6 weeks before dropping it into the storage zone around 58. I was just mostly wondering if the boveda 62s are going to actually bring the humidity up in the jar enough to get it back into the cure zone, or if the environment in the jar will be at 62 but the actual buds are not curing? After that, if they are, should i even burp them knowing they are only brought to that level artificially through the bovedas.
 

SamsonsRiddle

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If anyone is interested, everything was a success as far as using the bovedas to draw out some moisture from the buds and getting them into simon's idea of the cure zone. Here's a brief review of my journey: http://rollitup.org/t/using-boveda-on-overdried-bud.903073/

Now I've went through the entire thread and am extremely confused. I had always heard 60-65 was the cure zone and to burp your jars once a day for 5-15 minutes in this range to prevent mold. Now after reading every page of this, I've seen about 15 different ideas of what is the true way to cure properly.

I've got my jar sitting at 62% without the bovedas, what should i be doing?

@qwizoking - i know you're THE iso man (i learned to make iso from your instructions) and i've seen and respect a lot of the work you do here, so what do you suggest?
 

qwizoking

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Mold doesnt typically grow over 60rh this is where the top number comes from
Stomatas wont close till ....40
It will cure in that range.
Sure more moosture and heat will break it down faster but with more bacterial decomposition. Vs plant acting like a cutting and yiu keeping it alive till everythings burned away

It is an aerobic process, evne with bovedas still burb for gas exchange .




this has given me success


Trim wet, rh ~60%, decent airflow ~500cfm, no light, temps 65-73°f, Hopefully this takes roughly 10-14 days before outside of buds becomes dry. Do not let any part of the bud become dry. if this happens to soon; up rh, lower temp, and/or decrease air flow. If a hay or foul odor arises increase air flow..the hay is anaerobic fermentation essentially, and what happens in the inside pf a bail of hay. When drying is complete, Jar for minumum of 16hrs to get moisture back to the tips. You can now add boveda packs and or "burp" for30 minutes and give airflow to the bud. Airflow is very important to the cure but so is maintaining 55-60%rh
You dont wanna hang on the low end as metabolic provesses are slowed enzymatic etc..
After 2 weeks drying and 1 week"cure" i start to sell or taste test

i burp every other day for 2 weeks then weekly for 2months... then its good to go head stash




Gimme an hr or two if you have more questions or clarify,,,,maybe im talkinh crazy..jus woke up and some shit still in my system,,,.
 

SamsonsRiddle

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Mold doesnt typically grow over 60rh this is where the top number comes from
Stomatas wont close till ....40
It will cure in that range.
Sure more moosture and heat will break it down faster but with more bacterial decomposition. Vs plant acting like a cutting and yiu keeping it alive till everythings burned away

It is an aerobic process, evne with bovedas still burb for gas exchange .




this has given me success


Trim wet, rh ~60%, decent airflow ~500cfm, no light, temps 65-73°f, Hopefully this takes roughly 10-14 days before outside of buds becomes dry. Do not let any part of the bud become dry. if this happens to soon; up rh, lower temp, and/or decrease air flow. If a hay or foul odor arises increase air flow..the hay is anaerobic fermentation essentially, and what happens in the inside pf a bail of hay. When drying is complete, Jar for minumum of 16hrs to get moisture back to the tips. You can now add boveda packs and or "burp" for30 minutes and give airflow to the bud. Airflow is very important to the cure but so is maintaining 55-60%rh
You dont wanna hang on the low end as metabolic provesses are slowed enzymatic etc..
After 2 weeks drying and 1 week"cure" i start to sell or taste test

i burp every other day for 2 weeks then weekly for 2months... then its good to go head stash




Gimme an hr or two if you have more questions or clarify,,,,maybe im talkinh crazy..jus woke up and some shit still in my system,,,.
I don't think you need to clarify any more, and appreciate the response.

Someone posted that growweedeasy says 60-65, simon says 60-65, but i couldn't get over the thought of mold making its way into my finished product. I'm glad that someone has reassured me i wasn't alone in that feeling.

I'm going to copy your method this time, thanks for doing all the hard work and going through all the failures for me ;)
 

The Nine

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My grow room is a confined, sealed environmental too, and when the temperature drops 15*F after lights off the relative humidity goes up. The absolute humidity will be the same, but the relative humidity (what the hygrometer measures) fluctuates with temperature so I don't see why it wouldn't apply to a drying container.
Don't put your grow lights in your curing jars as you won't be able to get the lids on. Also don't switch them on if you do as this will severely dehydrate your buds into carbon, which is very difficult to keep lit and doesn't have any 'high'.

Just stick to sealing them air tight and worry not about minute RH fluctuations withing the storage vessel.
 
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