AACT, Bloom Tea, Veg Tea, Fungal Tea, Myco Tea, recipes from the outdoor guys.

Discussion in 'Organics' started by malignant, Mar 29, 2012.

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    malignant

    malignant Well-Known Member

    So there has been a bit of confusion about teas, teas are as unique as individuals brewing them. Each one unique to area, bacterial source, ratios, and needs. Different teas have different purposes.


    The Outdoor guys that are using organic teas for their crops have a thread that is organic in the outdoor section, here are their tea recipes and hopefully they will join in and discuss any thoughts, questions, and offer any guidance needed. Thank you everyone for your contributions, time and love of the trade.









































    veganics are another topic on their own:
    http://www.rollitup.org/organics/518248-veganics-cheat-sheet.html
    :joint:
     
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    Corbat420

    Corbat420 Well-Known Member

    Very nice to see. Subbed just to let everyone know.

    im usualy on daily, if not every other day. i can answer alot of the questions people need answered :D
     
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    NightbirdX

    NightbirdX Well-Known Member

    Good read, lots of good info. I've been considering more "traditional" teas of late because I am switching to an amended organic soil as my base rather than a soilless. I am pretty interested in making up some teas for them. Thanks for the compilation.
     
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    Corbat420

    Corbat420 Well-Known Member

    :D good choice. most of the serious organic growers use a heavily amended super soil mixed with some very heavy teas.

    its VERY hard to actually burn plants when using organics properly.
     
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    malignant

    malignant Well-Known Member

    for heavy teas i just use plain water with a little molasses in between, and ill feed 1x weekly until 2nd stage of bloom kicks in then i feed 2x weekly.
     
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    zippertrauma

    zippertrauma Member

    i use a heavily amended soil mix. i use beneficial teas that don't necessarily have any many added nutrients. they feed the micro heard in the soil so i only have to feed once a month in veg using this method, in flower i feed every watering because organics is the shit and you dont get burn just expolding plants. if interested in my recipe let me know.
     
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    malignant

    malignant Well-Known Member

    post it up!
     
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    Dank Raptor

    Dank Raptor Active Member

    Just mixed up a Fungal dominant brew.

    I use the method of cultivating fungi in a 50/50 mix of soil and compost. Add 2 tblspoons/cup of oat bran. Innoculate the mix with spores and put in 80 degree temp for 3-5 days to grow mycellium. Stuff the fungi compost in some pantyhose and brew for 18-24 hours. Try to avoid longer times because this can make your brew go bacterial. (not necessarily bad)

    Fulvic Acid 2 ml/gl
    Soft Rock Phosphate
    Liquid Kelp 4ml/gl
    Molasses .5ml/gl (very little dont want bacteria)
    Humic Acid 1 ml/gl
    Liquid Fish Hydrolysate 4ml/gl

    This is great for flowering to increase your phosphorus solubulizing fungi. These microbes mineralize phosphorus for your plant. Guaranteed chunkier girls if you brew this!
     
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    Da Almighty Jew

    Da Almighty Jew Well-Known Member

    ever since i started to use teas i been able to feed really heavy with organics without burning at all. :-P
     
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    Corbat420

    Corbat420 Well-Known Member

    :hump: dam rights man. one of the things people don't understand about Organics is the amount of nutrients marijuana can uptake. The salts in Synthetic fertilizers (Such as potassium Sulfide and Sodium Nitrate, both common ingredient for synthesizing hydro nutes.......) cause such harm to the soil and plants in larger doses that its almost inhumane :( some of the things i see people putting into their reservoirs is just sad....

    Organics don't have any salts, any harmful acids or bases, any Harmful ingredients and most of all... Organics don't have to degrade the planet to grow plants (such a stupid thing...). Organics is sustainable which puts it FAR above any other methods ;)
     
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    Futurama89

    Futurama89 Active Member

    So in theory by adding teas or only feeding with teas(nutes in tea) i allow my plant to be able to uptake more nutrients because the microbes will digest the nutrients and make them more readily avalible for my plants. and at the same time i will reduce the risk of burning my plants because im increasing my microbial and fungal life?

    so basically a Great Tea Mix=Being able to feed more and metabolize the plant more AKA larger greater yields?
     
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    Rising Moon

    Rising Moon Well-Known Member

    I have posted this before but, it needs to be mentioned in this thread, otherwise Ill feel like I didn't contribute to my favorite subject...

    Great list, just a few things I would add...

    A couple of major tea herbs have been left out of this list that should definitely be included.

    Comfrey - Major source of NPK as well as other micro nutrients and minerals mined from the Earth's subsoil.

    Stinging Nettle - Another great balanced source of NPK, large amounts of Calcium and other minerals and vitamin C, used in Bio-Dynamic farming to give intelligence to the soil.

    "Stinging nettle stimulates soil health, providing plants with the individual nutrition components needed. It enlivens the earth and helps to release iron into the soil. Helps to improve the potency of plants by increasing their sensitivity and individualizing them to their surroundings. Improves the nutritive qualities of plants. Mars forces are said to manifest in stinging nettle."

    Chamomile - Full of minerals and other plant stimulating compounds, chamomile teas can boost the plants own immunity to disease or pests, and help balance and regulate plant growth.

    Valerian - Source of minerals and phosphorus.

    "Valerian helps to concentrate phosphorous in the plant and this in turn aids with the plants capacity to attract light in the photosynthesis process. It stimulates the phosphate activating bacteria in the soil. Valerian deals with the forces from Saturn."

    Dandelion (flowers and leaves) - NPK, minerals, immune boosting properties, used in Bio-Dynamic farming to help plants "tune in" the the environment and draw nutrients or needed minerals where they are needed.

    "Dandelion gives the soil a living, ethereal quality with the ability to supply the substances a plant needs. It increases a plants sensitivity and helps it to attract beneficial elements from a wider area. Dandelion works strongly with silica and potassium and, via silica, draws in forces from the outer planets, particularly Jupiter."

    Yarrow - Contains potassium, selenium and sulfur, used in Bio-Dynamic farming to "bring light forces into the soil via its connection with sulfur, helping spirit to penetrate matter and enables it to attract trace elements. Important for reproduction and growth. Venus forces are said to manifest in yarrow."

    White Oak Bark - Combats disease, used in Bio-Dynamic farming to "work very strongly with calcium and is an excellent remedy for plant diseases including fungus. It helps to restore balance with the ether body of the plant and control rampant growth. Moon forces become active in the plant in a healthy manner with oak bark. Extended use of the oak bark will help to raise the ph of the soil without the need to add lime."

    All text in "quotes" was taken from http://cityfoodgrowers.com.au/biody_...eB7RCzlHYx-gCf

    All of these herbal teas can be brewed a number of ways, and the Bio-Dynamic people have their own ways of doing each one, however, based on my experience and intuition, whether you simply throw the stuff in a bucket for 2 weeks, use a small air stone and molasses to brew up some microbes, or bio-ferment and bury them in the earth according to the celestial movements... Anyway you use them, they will help.

    Personally, I brew the herbs up altogether, individually or in mixes, in cheese cloth, usually with a bit of home made worm castings, in PH neutral filtered water. I add a couple tablespoons of raw honey and bubble them with an air stone for 3 days.
    (I have gone up to 5 days, but the thick head of bacterial foam seems to peak around 3 days)
    I use it 8:1 10:1 12:1 or 15:1.

    Also, if you do not grow your own herbs (very easy and beautiful to do in any yard, most being perennials) make sure you buy organically grown herbs, the microbes your trying to grow do not like chemicals (pesticides, fungicides and tap water) But when I run out of my own, I buy all these herbs for CHEAP in bulk at an organic tea shop.

    Thanks for reading! [​IMG]
     
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    georgyboy

    georgyboy Active Member

    A question about the amount of tea needed to apply to a given area. I commonly see the 20 gallons an acre suggestion. Cool, but I'm not growing anything near an acre. My outdoor veggie garden is only 132 sq feet, and Inside I would never have more than 20 gallons of soil in containers. An acre is 43,560 sq feet according to wikipedia. That means my garden is one third of one percent of an acre. One third of one percent of a gallon is .o6 gallons, or almost one cup. One cup will not water 132 sq feet. I saw that a tea could be diluted down to 5:1 water with tea, but that still only gives me six cups, not even a half gallon. Also, what does the term soil drench mean, is that soaking the soil heavily or just a typical watering of the soil.
     
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    Rising Moon

    Rising Moon Well-Known Member

    Dont get caught up in plot sizes and square feet etc...

    Measure per plant.

    For example...

    If you are growing 6 plants, and you water 1 gallon per plant each watering, brew about 1 gallon of tea, and dilute 1:6. Simple

    If you want to run teas, plan on brewing up a batch every 3-5 days throught the entire grow.

    Soil drench to me means, fully saturate the soil, but not to the point of runoff.
     
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    Corbat420

    Corbat420 Well-Known Member

    ^ Good advice. alltho, i am a little confised on where you guys are getting these "ratios"......

    i use teas every watering.... at 50/50 water/tea, and 100% tea once a month.... a ratio of 1:5 would be useless in terms of nutrients, and hardly worth it for bacteria.

    Its to the point where the entire pot is drenched with water. it takes a bit of run off to do this.... some run off is a good thing, it shows that the entire pot can be filled with roots. no run off = Dry spots in the soil.
     
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    georgyboy

    georgyboy Active Member

    Thanks for the responses guys. Is it safe to fertilize with straight tea? I just did my first ever organic feeding, I fed with a gallon of water, 1Tbsp of liquid fish and 1Tbsp of molasses. I just put the stuff in the gallon, gave it a shake, and did a soil drench. Am I doing the right thing here?
     
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    Rising Moon

    Rising Moon Well-Known Member

    Agreed, I just threw out the 1:5 to be on the safe side, not knowing how exactly the tea was made. I tend to brew my teas very concentrated, with lots of traditional tea herbs, castings, molasses, raw honey and canna bio flores. I am skeptical that I would be able to use my brews at 100%, but Ive tried 50/50 ratio with good results.

    My avatar dont lie...
     
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    Corbat420

    Corbat420 Well-Known Member

    per 5 gallons water:
    15 Ml bat guano (N)
    1/2 cup EWC
    15 ML wood ash

    30 ML Morbloom
    15 ML Kelp
    15 ML Mollasses
    10 Ml Organic-B
    7.5 ml Liquid karma
    5 Ml Black storm

    ^ I use this @ 100% every 2 weeks.... organics is almost impossible to burn plants :D

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    Theres a measuring stick in the back of the pick if you look.... you can see the 2 and 3 feet marks :D (Measured from the trunk.)
     
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    StickeeGreens

    StickeeGreens Well-Known Member

    Great info guys i truly appreciate it! This is my first post in almost a year and damn it feels good to be back. Im new to this tea idea and im trying to develope my own brew for flowering and this truly helped!!!! thanks dudes
     
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    Rising Moon

    Rising Moon Well-Known Member

    I can see using this at 100%

    I follow a similar recipe, but I use way less water, 1 gallon.

    I tried brewing up bigger batches, but couldn't use them all up (wasteful, especially during winter with no garden to dump on)

    So I just experimented with less and less water, and the same ratios of raw materials, and diluted them a bit (1:3-1:6) so far so good!
     
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