Only a couple spelling errors? Per sentence maybe. That really was horrifically written and it's nearly illegible. Generally I don't care too much about spelling but if you can't spell, f'in own it. Don't say there's only a couple errors when you literally did not write a SINGLE sentence that didn't contain some kind of egregious error. If that's good enough for you I'm not going to argue. Just own it and don't claim there aren't a metric butt-ton of errors that seriously challenge people's ability to understand what you wrote.
carbon basred is after the microbes eat the organic matter and shit it out. when they shit it then it has added carbon or a plant cant eat it, other wise they could eat raw bat shit and so on as we give it to them...and they cant. wrong form, no salt or carbon in it yet for it to be plant food yet.its still microbe food basicly.
This is patently false. When a microbe "shits" it doesn't add carbon. You need to study some science, specifically the nitrification cycle, before you start stating facts that are not, and don't even vaguely resemble, the truth.
Nitrification is the oxidation of ammonium, which is NH4+ into nitrites which are NO2-. No carbon added. Other bacteria convert that into nitrates which are NO3-. Still no carbon.
Furthermore, you don't put "salt" into anything at any stage. A salt is nothing more than ionic compounds resulting from the neutralization reaction of an acid and a base. You have a positive ion and a negative ion that bond together to create an ionic compound. Now look above. See that plus or minus sign at the end of the compounds I just mentioned? Yeah, that's their ionic charge. They're all one part of a salt pair. (For those interested in the technical terms, the positive charged ones are called "cations" and the negative charged ones are called "anions".) Basically you have a cation and an anion, and that forms a salt.
If you have Nitrates in water, you have nitric acid. That's what an acid is - a volume of water with a bunch of anions in it. If you combined that with a base, the acid and base would neutralize each other and a salt would be formed.
So there's some basic highschool chemistry for you.
Short version is, there's no carbon added to cations or anions by being "shit out" by microbes.
99.99999% of the so called organic in a liquid form in a bottle isnt organic at all. its still a chem salt if they looked at the gauranteed analysus, havin omri stamp on the bottle doesnt make it organic or any better than any other nute bottle. they are all organic based as all food comes from earth sea or air. makes them all organic to a point. funny so many dont see that whent hey mix the food and see reg ppm in the nute rez...real organics dont register as it isnt a salt/carbon yet. the plant also provides the carbon.
You've got some truth here. The entire concept of "organic" is a fuzzy realm no matter whether you're talking about apples or fertilizers. What is "organic enough" to be organic? Depends on who you ask. OMRI has certain standards that they consider to be "organic enough" to get their little rubber stamp. I think California just came up with a more strict standard that ensures each component that goes into something is vetted as organic back to a certain level, but I don't know enough details about that to say for sure.
You stray from accuracy at the "isn't a salt/carbon yet" thing and saying that "real organics don't register" on a ppm meter. They do. They simply don't register the same way because a ppm meter measures EC (electrical conductivity) of the solution. Simply put, the meter runs a mild electric current between the two metal tips and measures how much resistance the solution has. More dissolved solids decreases resistance, but every dissolved solid alters resistance differently. So even within purely chemical salt fertilizers, different formulations at exactly the same ppm can give radically different EC readings. Fertilizers with more organic sources tend not to be as broken down as chemical salt-based fertilizers, and thus are less conductive, but they still conduct electricity.
Even the most hippy-tree-hugger-friendly organic liquid fertilizer will register on a ppm meter. It just won't register ACCURATELY. Of course from a scientists perspective, nothing is really accurately measured using EC unless you know specifically what compounds you're dealing with in the first place. At best our EC meters provide useful ballpark measurements. Most fertilizers are designed pretty much similarly, so we can get useful (if not accurate) information.
yes their is fincionality with a chare but is a whole diff subkject. plants only uptake me charges and is what ph buffered means with nutes and mediums.
This is the worst sentence in the whole paragraph. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you meant to type, "Yes, there is functionality with a charge but that is a whole different subject. Plants only uptake (no frikkin clue) charges and that is what pH buffered means regarding nutes and mediums." Even written in proper English this makes very little sense.
The mechanism by which plants uptake nutrients depends on the molecules involved having a particular charge or polarity, and those molecules being suspended in a liquid solution of water. Plants cannot uptake any nutrient (with their roots, at least) unless it is dissolved in water and charged. (Of course chemists will note how unlikely anything is to be found in any abundance, dissolved in water UNLESS it has a charge, so "dissolved in water" is really the only necessary qualifier.)
man think it measn we dont need to ph anything..all it means is possitive and negative are bufered or ballanced to resist change when mixed...or the nutes wouldnt work at all. the carbomn or salt is more how easy it passes through roots membranes and how they pass through.
I think I saw this exact sentence in an email from a Nigerian Prince who needed my help to protect his money.
diff forms dont relay promote diff growth, they all change from whatever our bottle is to the same form to be eaten by a plant.
I'm assuming you're talking about Nitrogen here, since it was mentioned earlier. If so, you're absolutely wrong. Plants can and do absorb SEVERAL different forms of Nitrogen, but only a couple forms are easily absorbed. And the form of Nitrogen a plant absorbs absolutely does influence how well it grows. Check this out:
http://www.greenhouse.cornell.edu/crops/factsheets/nitrogen_form.pdf
thats why organic...real organic..is so slow. wrong forms so it has to be changed by fungi and microbe to the right one and also within the plant/...like when they cheep out and use eurea as their form. plant dot like that so has be changed
Read the document above.
Additionally, "real" organic doesn't have to be in the "wrong form". Consider this: if you take a 100% organic source of Nitrogen, and then run it through a 100% organic process to break it down into bioavailable forms, isn't it still 100% organic? Of course it is.
Why isn't this done more often? Because it's expensive. And when you make a truly organic fertilizer that's pre-processed for your plants and sell it for what it's worth you get a whole bunch of armchair chemists who think the ingredient label on a bottle of fertilizer actually tells you something meaningful about what's in the bottle. They throw out fancy-sounding phrases like "carbon based" that actually don't apply IN THE SLIGHTEST to what is being talked about and/or yap about how the ingredient list is the same as product Z that costs half as much so the true organic, pre-processed fertilizer must be a "ripoff".
and realy ratios arent all that important as long as it isnt supressing other ellements. plants uptake what they want and leave any extras. they why so many burn and have ph issues. over fed a certain ellement and it blocks others so the plant hgets deff and burns from lack of food. ...most call it over feeding but you cant force them to over eat, they send oerages back to the medium as a starch and thats what messes shit up. plants cant be overfed...only mediums can
Again, the pdf I linked shows where this is wrong. Ratios ARE important. Plants don't simply pick and choose what to absorb. They don't sit there under the sun and say "gee, am I hungry for Nitrogen, Phosphorus, or Potassium today?" They kick out ions in order to absorb ions, and they don't have very much control over what gets absorbed. Anyone with even the most basic understanding of growing knows that plants can be overfed.
Carbon-based Nitrogen... what a crock. The only form of Nitrogen that even has carbon in it is urea, and when it's broken down the carbon atom is REMOVED.
