Advantage V. disadvantage CFL's

stickyhits

Well-Known Member
that the best you could think of, of course thats what a fake liar would say instead of proof look how garbage your leafy bud is on page one probably your entire harvest since its all you post wanna talk sh*t without the balls to prove anything your probably getting fucked by hermie plants
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
lastfrontier dude you gotta weigh your crop AFTER you dry it. I want to see 42 oz on plants in last week of flower, got pics? no? too bad.

LOL... yeah.. you gotta weigh it when it is dry....lol unless you can find somebody to buy it when its wet.... ahahahaha

i have bee the victim of the wet weed.... LOL....

iloveyou
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
Mr. Knowm...or anyone who is qualified for that matter...could you achieve the roughly 3 plants @ 8 oz with 8-42's in a scrog setup instead of surrounding the plants?

I was thinking that perhaps penetration wouldn't be as much of an issue since you are only worried about the very top anyway.

Thanks to all the KaK Smackers out there! :) :hump: :joint:

yeah,, I think you could.... what would be the reason.. limited vertical space? why not just surround the plants....

I think there are some grow journals or at least some threads with cfl scrog.. and they are badd ass :)

check for HUMBOLTS threads .. that dude was cool!
 

Garden Knowm

The Love Doctor
ok.. i just read the entire thread... lol...

Sticky.. you gotta stop rippen so hard bro... let the dude grow his shit... and help him out.... he probably doesn't want to post any more pictures cause he knows your just waiting to tear him a new one.. let him outta the corner for fook sake... LOL...

IF he has 35 cfls, then he has the ambition to grow something...

I am trying to make the peace. I am not trying to harsh your gig...

iloveyou
 

lastfrontier

Well-Known Member
i think sickley sticky is just an average hater because his numbers dont match mine so it must be BS there can be no other way for it to come flower. no punt intended
 

stickyhits

Well-Known Member
your cunt was infected by hermie pollen.numbers are meaningless unless you count that it took you over 3 hours to come up with that garbage yet you couldn't get a picture when you have a camera what were you doing sticking cfls up your ass to see if you could yield 3 kilos with that hermie pollen in there and i saw you get offline and back on multiple times are you that slow in the head?

edit: thats right get online try and talk jazzy then get out witted instantly and get offline again post some pics mr f*cking journeyman slash electrician. I can't blame you for running i couldn't stand to be dumber then someone who isnt even 21 but i'm more man then you'll ever be i have morals and dont believe in evil ways and deceit is very wrong you ass. i have love but life made me hate phonies like you so get the f*ck out of this forum forever. your not dead yet so change your ways before its to late buddy
 

Tanuvan

Well-Known Member
yeah,, I think you could.... what would be the reason.. limited vertical space? why not just surround the plants....

I think there are some grow journals or at least some threads with cfl scrog.. and they are badd ass :)

check for HUMBOLTS threads .. that dude was cool!
Yep, limited vertical space (approx 3ft of plant height after considering the cooltube and pot height). Besides, I was thinking of trying CFL's. I have a lumatek 250HPS, but read that they are not UL certified... I hear that it(being not UL certified) is not good, though I haven't had any trouble from it yet.

BTW, I'm not trying to thread jack, but it seems this thread is already somewhat de-railed.
 

Titania

Well-Known Member
look HPS dose not have a better kelvin rating but like you said in you opinion it dose and what ever the rating is you are stuck with that do the math and look at other post 80,000 lumens is plenty to grow 15-20 plants of course using airoponics will produce bigger yields the above mentioned lumens is equil to 2 400 watt HPS lights which only has 90,000 initial lumens after about 100-500 hours of use keep in mind 12x60=720 the equivlent of one flowering cycle 60days at 12 hours each day brings the lumens down to 75,000-85,000 lumens for your precious HPS you are such a hatter and i sure am getting tired of doing your homework for you look i am a journeyman machine tool rebuilder and a journeyman electriction a profesional and i think we are on two diffrent levels you keep saying 18 lights because you saw a picture i posted for example purpose this unit can go as high as 1400 watts and only pull 12.1 amps with no ballast in series what i said was this light has the ability to grow 14 plants i never spoke of the bulb configureation just as an example let me say this and i hope this is the end of it for you i know it is for me so listen good




35 bulbs at 42 watts is 1470 watts well with in the operating range of this hood and that would creat 105,000 lumens and you say that is not enough to bloom 14 plants wow look 80,000 lumens is enough for 14 plants let alone 105,000 lumens of what ever kelvin rating you want. BOOOOOM i think i just sank your battle ship WELCOME TO THE THUNDERDOME BITCH.


Oyea LINUX rules.


2x 400w hps = 110,000 lumens, to my knowlegde.
 

Titania

Well-Known Member
Lastfrontier, are you sure you didn't weigh it wet? It's an honest mistake to make, I did it on my first grow, I was like woooooo 1 1/2 ounce. Then I watched in horror as it shrunk by about 75%. :(
 

40acres

New Member
ok.. i just read the entire thread... lol...

Sticky.. you gotta stop rippen so hard bro... let the dude grow his shit... and help him out.... he probably doesn't want to post any more pictures cause he knows your just waiting to tear him a new one.. let him outta the corner for fook sake... LOL...

IF he has 35 cfls, then he has the ambition to grow something...

I am trying to make the peace. I am not trying to harsh your gig...

iloveyou
I wish i sounded this chill when I talked.
 

Cherry Poppins

Active Member
lastfrontier just admit it it was wet weight, your not fooling anyone, im not trying to be a dick but here:

- you make unbelivealbe claims without picture proof (the ones u posted are just laughworthy)

- you math is way off, HPS and MH that are used by 99% of populace in this forum have hortilux, solarmax, etc bulbs that put out more lumens than you use in your arguments of cfl vs hps lumen output. I understand that hid bulbs degrade over time and so do CFLs! people with hids change their bulb more often than cfl growers who would have replace 20 or more of them.

- Your watts, lumens, CRIs, kelvins whatever you stated does not provide enough light to yield more than oz per plan

- Your claimed results would prove that you (novice grower) can do better than Garden Knowm, who wrote a FUCKIN BOOK on cfl growing. on top of that, reflector you have in no way compares to GK's way of surrounding the plant as far as light delivery goes.

- Your strains do not have high yielding genetics, decent but nowhere close to the best yielders.

- You fail to provide factors such as nutes used, veg time, growing techiques etc.

Dont get mad dude but so far all you do is talk and provide invalid arguments.
Im new here and i signed up when i noticed that this kind of unsupported bragging is looked down upon here.

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Poppin cherries since '86
 

IslandGreenGuy

Well-Known Member
I hate to just chime in around here, being new and all that, but I used Some CFLS (18 26 watt mixed spectrums) for 11 female lowryder 2's, I thought I did well with only a bit over 4 ounces DRY weight when finished. Is that not a decent yeild? Be honest, I can handle it. I am growing some AK47s now (not auto flowering). But I purchased a 400w MH / MPS, MH for veg and HPS for Flowering. Should I also use my CFL's? And for Soil Im using a mix of stuff, An organic Top soil with some perlite, pro-mix and I'm going to add some wormcastings when I upgrade to gallon pots on friday. Is this a good mix? If not, What? I have some Nutes also, off the top of my head, I don't know what kind they are. I got them from a hydro store (the same place I got my light) Thanks for input..
 

mdgtptrl

Well-Known Member
ok.. i just read the entire thread... lol...

Sticky.. you gotta stop rippen so hard bro... let the dude grow his shit... and help him out.... he probably doesn't want to post any more pictures cause he knows your just waiting to tear him a new one.. let him outta the corner for fook sake... LOL...

IF he has 35 cfls, then he has the ambition to grow something...

I am trying to make the peace. I am not trying to harsh your gig...

iloveyou
i think sickley sticky is just an average hater because his numbers dont match mine so it must be BS there can be no other way for it to come flower. no punt intended
A god comes to your rescue and all you do is start talking shit again. Chill bro, it's just not worth the effort to get all uppity :bongsmilie:
 

lastfrontier

Well-Known Member
this was a good thread it generated alot of response it cracks me up at how mad sickly sticky got ha ha ha a great free laugh i have copied some of his threads and posted them on other sites and i think they got a kick out of it to lol...
 
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