Advice please.

Kez...

New Member
Hello. Totally new first time grower here. So I’m sorry if I waffle a bit yet I’m a little green when it comes to growing a plant. Sorry about the pun...

I’ll try to explain as short and descriptive as I can. Thanks.

Also, I mean not to sound rude though I’d appreciate knowledge from a grower who has been there seen it done it and got the T-shirt.

Germinated 4 seeds. Indica, or could be hybrid. Potted them in small pots on the 25th May 2019. At first my watering was tragic, too much too little, wrong ph. I then purchased a digital PH tester(nice1 mum)and so began to balance my tap water with concentrated lemon juice for a 6.5ph every watering. At first my watering times weren’t clock-work. However, I got my seedlings to sprout and for two weeks I had them on a 18/6 cycle indoors. Ended up with leggy stems 4 inches tall under a 50 watt bulb. So I began gently bending stalks and they became slightly stronger.

All 4 plants after two weeks had just 4 leaves on them, that’s not including the Cotyledons. So I transferred them to 14litre pots, thinking it would be better idea, containing a mixture of 30% perlite 70% nutrient balanced compost(John Innes: 60% peat, Nutrient 6-7, ph 5.5-6) and filled them 80% full. I then stuck them inside a green house and covered them with same 14litre pots(totally blacked out)on top to block out the light and for the past 3/4 weeks had them on a 12/12 cycle. Not knowing how much I should water them I was very timid at first with the watering, didn’t want to over water as I read over water was worse than under-watering. Is this true?

So, One of the 4 plants took to sprouting better than the others.

It is this plant I wish to discuss...

During the day, from 7am to 7pm I take this plant and place it directly in the sunshine outside of greenhouse and, lol, watch it with intense excitement and curiosity, shooing flies and spiders and checking for signs of growth and maturity, plus turning the pot 180 degrees every hour or so for the sun to hit all parts of plant; All the while absolutely dying for a spliff I cannot afford to purchase at this time of my life. You see I’m growing this for medical reasons...Anyways...

It is now week 6 and this plant has just shown signs of its first pistils, at node 6.
One single set of two pistils about three millimetres long. I’ve read up on the Male/Female identity aspects and I strongly believe this plant to be a Female. Hope so anyways.

Six nodes total so far,(including the very first node)and literally growing taller and wider by the day. 5 Internodes.

The plant stands no taller than 10 inches tall atm from soil and is looking rather healthy, growing taller by the day and sprouting new Laterals up its main stem at the nodes. Next day from seeing first pistil and yet more pistils are sprouting all around the nodes, (new Laterals) on all Laterals except the very first node. Because this plant is only 6 weeks old, and that I’ve had it on a 12/12 cycle from a sapling, have I ruined its chances of flowering/budding?

I’ve read up on so many topics that tbh I’m overwhelmed with the possibilities of what and what not to do, topping, trimming leaves, bending stems, pruning, when to start flowering stage, etcetera...

Will this plant continue to keep growing taller and wider and still produce pistils on a 12/12 ? I’m sure it shall...Though will it still produce buds in the long run, or have I messed up the light cycle by starting it on a 12/12 cycle?

I think I’ve Sussed how much water to give it-by now, last week it’s been getting 1 litre every two to three days, plus I’ve been checking top soil with my finger up to first knuckle to see how moist or dry it has become. Last two days I’ve seen a slight trickle pour out the bottom of pot. I’ve got one or two shoots sticking out the bottom of the pot, and what with the daily new sprouting of pistils and Laterals I’m certain it’s a very healthy plant.

In the morning times when I remove top pots the plant has drops of water on its leaves too. Condensation. Is this a good thing at this stage? Before I place into direct sun I first shake this water from the leaves so the sun does not burn it. Is that ok?

Plus, I have a small bottle of tomato feed liquid, ( though I have not come to use yet) and I’ve read up so many times that it helps with the flowering stage as constantly watering could drain the soil of its nutrients. Somewhere I read that adding 1teaspoon of tomato feed to 2litres of ph6.5 water is sufficient to help the blooming?

As I said at beginning of this letter, I’m so sorry for it being so long. I just so want, no I so need to get some rewards from this plant that I simply cannot mess it up.

Thank you so much for reading this and I’ll appreciate any and every response I get.

Free the Weed!

Peace....
 

Rainbow Warrior

Well-Known Member
I got my seedlings to sprout and for two weeks I had them on a 18/6 cycle indoors. Ended up with leggy stems 4 inches tall under a 50 watt bulb.
50w way too small; need at least 400w. How big is your room?

All 4 plants after two weeks had just 4 leaves on them, that’s not including the Cotyledons. So I transferred them to 14litre pots, thinking it would be better idea, containing a mixture of 30% perlite 70% nutrient balanced compost(John Innes: 60% peat, Nutrient 6-7, ph 5.5-6) and filled them 80% full.
Pots are a bit small; next time go for 20l+

Am I Right in guessing ur in the UK (only guessing coz of John Innes compost)

Next time get urself BIOBIZZ ALL MIX) well worth it)

A bit more soil wouldn’t have hurt.

I then stuck them inside a green house and covered them with same 14litre pots(totally blacked out)on top to block out the light and for the past 3/4 weeks had them on a 12/12 cycle. Not knowing how much I should water them I was very timid at first with the watering, didn’t want to over water as I read over water was worse than under-watering. Is this true?
Why cover? They need light.

18/6 cycle veg phase ; 12/12 flowering

Overwatering is worse

During the day, from 7am to 7pm I take this plant and place it directly in the sunshine outside of greenhouse and, lol, watch it with intense excitement and curiosity, shooing flies and spiders and checking for signs of growth and maturity, plus turning the pot 180 degrees every hour or so for the sun to hit all parts of plant; All the while absolutely dying for a spliff I cannot afford to purchase at this time of my life. You see I’m growing this for medical reasons...Anyways...

It is now week 6 and this plant has just shown signs of its first pistils, at node 6.
One single set of two pistils about three millimetres long. I’ve read up on the Male/Female identity aspects and I strongly believe this plant to be a Female. Hope so anyways.

Six nodes total so far,(including the very first node)and literally growing taller and wider by the day. 5 Internodes.

The plant stands no taller than 10 inches tall atm from soil and is looking rather healthy, growing taller by the day and sprouting new Laterals up its main stem at the nodes. Next day from seeing first pistil and yet more pistils are sprouting all around the nodes, (new Laterals) on all Laterals except the very first node. Because this plant is only 6 weeks old, and that I’ve had it on a 12/12 cycle from a sapling, have I ruined its chances of flowering/budding?
Coz of ur 12/12 cycle u forced it into flowering early.

Will this plant continue to keep growing taller and wider and still produce pistils on a 12/12 ? I’m sure it shall...Though will it still produce buds in the long run, or have I messed up the light cycle by starting it on a 12/12 cycle?
.
Fraid so. Try switch 18/6. Don’t think it will make much difference.

In the morning times when I remove top pots the plant has drops of water on its leaves too. Condensation. Is this a good thing at this stage? Before I place into direct sun I first shake this water from the leaves so the sun does not burn it. Is that ok?
Condensation is due to top pots, darken the plants somehow different
Plus, I have a small bottle of tomato feed liquid, ( though I have not come to use yet) and I’ve read up so many times that it helps with the flowering stage as constantly watering could drain the soil of its nutrients. Somewhere I read that adding 1teaspoon of tomato feed to 2litres of ph6.5 water is sufficient to help the blooming?
Biobizz or Hesi nutrients will be best

RW
:peace:
 

Kez...

New Member
50w way too small; need at least 400w. How big is your room?



Pots are a bit small; next time go for 20l+

Am I Right in guessing ur in the UK (only guessing coz of John Innes compost)

Next time get urself BIOBIZZ ALL MIX) well worth it)

A bit more soil wouldn’t have hurt.


Why cover? They need light.

18/6 cycle veg phase ; 12/12 flowering

Overwatering is worse


Coz of ur 12/12 cycle u forced it into flowering early.


Fraid so. Try switch 18/6. Don’t think it will make much difference.


Condensation is due to top pots, darken the plants somehow different

Biobizz or Hesi nutrients will be best

RW
:peace:
Thanks RW. 50w bulbs is all I had. My room is small to say the least. I had never attempted to grow seeds before until now, so I had to make do with the things I have. The lights were the lights for my room, I stacked a few dozen books up against the wall, grabbed my mums heat pad and placed pots onto pad and hoped for the best, knowing absolutely nothing about growing plants. I say this, I was given those seeds from a pal, and I have absolutely no money to buy anything, can just about buy food. Anyways.
I only put the pots on top over night, for the 12/12 cycle to keep the light get from them. I shall start using 18/6. Although I’ve read I’m sure that converting back to a 18/6 would start the plant back into vegging phase, which would set me back another week or two? Hmm, as you have read I’ve made plenty of errors. We live and learn don’t we. And yes, I’m from the UK.
So, from what I’ve explained about the pistils, would you say that I had a female plant?
Thanks again for reading my post and many thanks for replying. Nice1 RW.
 

Rainbow Warrior

Well-Known Member
Thanks RW. 50w bulbs is all I had. My room is small to say the least. I had never attempted to grow seeds before until now, so I had to make do with the things I have. The lights were the lights for my room, I stacked a few dozen books up against the wall, grabbed my mums heat pad and placed pots onto pad and hoped for the best, knowing absolutely nothing about growing plants. I say this, I was given those seeds from a pal, and I have absolutely no money to buy anything, can just about buy food. Anyways.
I only put the pots on top over night, for the 12/12 cycle to keep the light get from them. I shall start using 18/6. Although I’ve read I’m sure that converting back to a 18/6 would start the plant back into vegging phase, which would set me back another week or two? Hmm, as you have read I’ve made plenty of errors. We live and learn don’t we. And yes, I’m from the UK.
So, from what I’ve explained about the pistils, would you say that I had a female plant?
Thanks again for reading my post and many thanks for replying. Nice1 RW.
Try the 18/6 cycle from now on (I take it they are outside), if not, put them outside, 50w is way too small.

I think they are Female.
This website gives u sound advice:

https://www.growweedeasy.com/
All u need to know about growing, sexing, harvest, diseases, etc.

Any questions, fire away

RW
:peace:
 

Kez...

New Member
Ok I’ll try 18/6. Yes, all four have been outside now on that 12/12 for about four weeks. This last week+ we have had some blistering sun which I believe has helped accordingly. Today or tomorrow I’m in the process of erecting a tent made with blackout material so I can fit inside the greenhouse for when plants get bigger. As I mentioned I have no cash for accessories like a fan to cool the air nor no humidifier, just relying on vision, the sun and of course some good luck tbh. Inside the green house temperature cools down to about between 50/60 degrees F overnight.
As I mentioned about tomato feed, which is all I have atm, was my equations correct, 1 teaspoon to 2 litres of water? Plus, when would I start giving it to my plants, when they start to flower? I mean, you say they be flowering now, so should I hold up with the tomato feed for now? Also RW, how long do I run the 18/6 cycle for from now on, until the end of July? Or until I think they be big enough?
Thanks.
 

Rainbow Warrior

Well-Known Member
Just keep the pots off completely, let them grow naturally. I always grow outdoors; middle of September the sun will change to 12/12 (autumn equinox). Until then, let them grow; if you do think they get too big, then get the tent over, plants stretch like hell once they’re flipped.
Do remember; 8 weeks minimum flower before harvest. Depending on where in the uk you are, u know when to expect frost each year.

Tomato feed should say dosage and how often ; feed maybe next week with half the recommended dose and see how the do...

Just put them outside/greenhouse now and leave it to the suns cycle; no need to cover or anything.

They’re not Autos, are they?

RW
:peace:
 

Kez...

New Member
Copy that with the pots.
Tomato feed don’t say nothing. It’s one of those small little bottles you place up side down in your flowers and it releases slowly over a month. I don’t want to do it that way, would rather open the bottle and place in my ph water. Says nothing on the bottle and I’ve searched on line for its components though found zip.
No, seeds are not auto flowers although I’m not 100% on that. The pal I got them off said they were some kind of lemon cross. I’ve searched for such a seed although all I found was a Lemon Frost, which says is a cross between something lemon and a Jack Frost. Have you ever come across this strain?
As you say I’ve probably forced flowering with the 12/12.
Nice1 RW. You’ve made me feel a hole lot better about the situation.
Today I’ve been making a grow tent for when plants get bigger. Only problem I think I’m going to have is ventilations and humidity. Shall see what I can fabricate in the near future.
You the man RW. Respect.
 
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