tet1953
Well-Known Member
A 600-lb gun safe with shelving instead of guns works well also lol
Especially when it's located in the basement.
Amendment 64
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Especially when it's located in the basement.
Fazer1rlg
Active Member
Exactly what I have mouted to the ground that bitch isn't going anywhere. It would make it through a fire too.
Bubbagineer
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Trousers your avatar is damn near as bad as Chewberto's for being unavoidable (i.e. I look at it every time you post and think wtf... lol ). That's a compliment btw, it cracks me up.
I used 2 of those Home Depot cam locks for my cabinet. It will only keep out children and honest folks
, but they were a perfect solution for the cab as I didn't have the thickness needed for a standard door knob.
I used 2 of those Home Depot cam locks for my cabinet. It will only keep out children and honest folks
, but they were a perfect solution for the cab as I didn't have the thickness needed for a standard door knob.
420circuit
Active Member
As far as 64 and being a legal grower/consumer, the current legal state is frightening as Hell. Either I am totally legal or a potential felon, I can't really tell, and it is giving me a serious case of raging paranoia. As a red card holder I can have 3 plants in veg and 3 in flower, plus more under 64? Plus the extra plants allowed under the doctor recommended number? The guy who was popped for a felony after selling to a cop on CL had 3.5 OZ according to the story. So does he really deserve to be charged with such a serious crime that he faces years in jail? No, of course not. The current state of MJ law is FUCKED UP, even in CO after the passage of 64 and I do not think that the people we elected are doing an acceptable job of controlling the police and amending the laws to reflect what has been voted in. It is time to decriminalize this weed.
Trousers
Well-Known Member
No.
Legally you are not allowed more than 6 plants, 3 mature and 3 immature regardless of what your doctor says.
While I agree that it wouldn't hurt to have a doc recommend more plants, that does not change the law. All it does give you more ammunition in a legal fight.
The rules say an ounce and you can not sell it. It is pretty clear. I agree it is dumb for police to be wasting time on weed. I think weed should be regulated like tomatoes.
We have the best cannabis laws in the country right now.
TruenoAE86coupe
Moderator
Good answers as usual trousers, i completely agree with all of them, except i want to add that under Amendment 64, you are allowed to keep all of the meds you grow in the place that you grow them, they did not put a number on what you are allowed to keep at home (assuming thats where your grow is). You are only allowed to travel with up to an oz of flowers with you, (concentrates also, edibles would be hard to enforce this i believe) for every person over 21 in the vehicle.
You are not allowed to accept renumeration for the product, but can give up to an oz to another person over 21.
Also, you are allowed 3/3 plants for everyone over 21 in the house, regardless if they consume it or not.
I am not exposing any of the dozens of loopholes they are working to close (except the amount at home part, they realized what they did and are trying to fix this) but there is contracting etc that we could go into for "legitimate" plant counts, but i will always warn that over the legal numbers will result in having to provide an affirmative defense in court.
You are not allowed to accept renumeration for the product, but can give up to an oz to another person over 21.
Also, you are allowed 3/3 plants for everyone over 21 in the house, regardless if they consume it or not.
I am not exposing any of the dozens of loopholes they are working to close (except the amount at home part, they realized what they did and are trying to fix this) but there is contracting etc that we could go into for "legitimate" plant counts, but i will always warn that over the legal numbers will result in having to provide an affirmative defense in court.
TruenoAE86coupe
Moderator
As always follow the basic rules, no selling, no telling and keep the smells under control. These should keep you far below the radar and make it so you don't have to worry.
420circuit
Active Member
Thanks for the clarifications, that helps ease my Fear some, but I am going to scale back my grow equipment to make sure that I don't have The Fear come back. And yes, regulate like tomatoes. Life is too short to be in Fear.
TruenoAE86coupe
Moderator
The doctor up in Ft. Collins runs a 4000 watt flower room, and only flowers 6 at a time. No one said how big the grow op could be, nor how big the plants, just the number.
bshdctr
Well-Known Member
Exactly
Just never, ever, ever have more than 3 plants (including un-rooted clones!) in veg and 3 plants in flower per person over 21 in the home. Also make sure you look at city ordinance to make there are not limits like I have here (12 total). I also went the extra 9 miles in the safety dept. just to show any LEO that I am trying to be as safe as possible. Locking doors, automated fire suppression mounted in several places, carbon monoxide detectors, smoke alarms, high temp shut offs, etc.. Yes it was a large investment but it has EASILY paid itself off now considering I do not have to pay for the 2+ounces per week I smoke and eat. I will never, ever sell any of it at all so I am not breaking any laws....but I will give under an ounce to deserving folks over the age of 21, which is also legal! Just stay 100% legit/legal and enjoy!
theRambler
Member
Amendment 64 Task Force Recommendations
http://www.colorado.gov/cms/forms/dor-tax/A64TaskForceFinalReport.pdf
I would have posted some key points but I'm still reading it (166 pages).
http://www.colorado.gov/cms/forms/dor-tax/A64TaskForceFinalReport.pdf
I would have posted some key points but I'm still reading it (166 pages).
theRambler
Member
You bet Chef.
It would seem that outdoor growing is NOT forbidden per these recommendations, and they did define ENCLOSED SPACE and LOCKED SPACE (page 96)
However, you are going to need to have it where no one can see it from your property line so for those of us that don't own acres of land, we would need a greenhouse or dog run type of enclosure with tarps to block the view from the sides.
Also per the recommendations (none of this is written in stone yet) no concentrate extraction at home if you are planning to use a compressed flammable gas such as but not limited to butane, hexane, propane. They don't want jokers blowing up the neighborhood.
I did like that they recommend the creation of an Education Oversight Committee that will provide factual and unbiased information to the public and that they recommend the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) oversee the study of the Health Effects of MJ. NO MORE REEFER MADNESS Bulls**t.
They were not able to come to any decisions on whether to allow private cannabis clubs. That is probably going to be decided in court.
Now if the Colorado Assembly will actually get their act together we may just be able to create a model that leads to ending Prohibition.
It would seem that outdoor growing is NOT forbidden per these recommendations, and they did define ENCLOSED SPACE and LOCKED SPACE (page 96)
However, you are going to need to have it where no one can see it from your property line so for those of us that don't own acres of land, we would need a greenhouse or dog run type of enclosure with tarps to block the view from the sides.
Also per the recommendations (none of this is written in stone yet) no concentrate extraction at home if you are planning to use a compressed flammable gas such as but not limited to butane, hexane, propane. They don't want jokers blowing up the neighborhood.
I did like that they recommend the creation of an Education Oversight Committee that will provide factual and unbiased information to the public and that they recommend the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment (CDPHE) oversee the study of the Health Effects of MJ. NO MORE REEFER MADNESS Bulls**t.
They were not able to come to any decisions on whether to allow private cannabis clubs. That is probably going to be decided in court.
Now if the Colorado Assembly will actually get their act together we may just be able to create a model that leads to ending Prohibition.
420circuit
Active Member
Yes, the door lock thing was pretty clear for inside rooms, you will probably be required to install a lock on the door. If your place has anyone under 21 coming around then they are pushing that this be the rule, but if there are no youngsters, then the home entry locks would suffice.
NEEDMMASAP
Well-Known Member
Did anyone understand the part ---- Sorry about the large size letters just copied that way . Maybe an increase in the plant count ? QUOTE
Consider revisions to address possession of marijuana in
amounts over 2 ounces outside the room where cultivation occurs, and possession of
more than 6 plants per adult.
TruenoAE86coupe
Moderator
I believe it is just looking for a specific law and punishment to prevent these from occurring, and the ramifications of such an infractions.
NEEDMMASAP
Well-Known Member
Bummer , I was hoping for a higher plant count , a good law would be that any person over 70 years of age could grow a unlimited amount of plants . That would get my vote
TruenoAE86coupe
Moderator
Higher plant count is over rated, 6 plants in flower can produce plenty, a lot more than you would probably expect once you get things dialed in.
Bubbagineer
Well-Known Member
Anyone want to discuss the 5ng/ml bullshit? How much blood would need to be taken for the test? I mean, the nurse always draws a full syringe, but do they really need that much? I wonder if a drop would suffice... If so, you could see a fairly non-invasive method for testing blood in the field. I suppose the unit would need an on board GC/MS... Could mount it in the trunk and just feed it the sample from the hand held unit.
Don't hate on the messenger.... You can be sure if ole BubbaG thought of it, the drug testing companies (massive corporations) probably have room fulls of peeps thinking shit up along similar lines or way beyond what I can imagine. I had to sit through an hour presentation from an asshole from one of these outfits last year trying to sell me urine drug test kits (pretty ironic huh? Lol). Then I had to go to dinner with them, they did have a stout expense account... that was before I quit drinkin and I ran the tab up just because of how they made their living... Fucking Parasites. Should have seen dude's eyes when the tab showed up.
Don't hate on the messenger.... You can be sure if ole BubbaG thought of it, the drug testing companies (massive corporations) probably have room fulls of peeps thinking shit up along similar lines or way beyond what I can imagine. I had to sit through an hour presentation from an asshole from one of these outfits last year trying to sell me urine drug test kits (pretty ironic huh? Lol). Then I had to go to dinner with them, they did have a stout expense account... that was before I quit drinkin and I ran the tab up just because of how they made their living... Fucking Parasites. Should have seen dude's eyes when the tab showed up.
TruenoAE86coupe
Moderator
If there was a non-invasive way to test blood they would be all over it already for diabetes. I couldn't imagine having to draw your own blood everyday.
Either way with the supreme courts call that it is not legal to force a blood draw i am refusing.
At this point if you are drunk driving (my biggest pet peeve) and you decline the breath test they just take your license for a year, and you have a defense. If you blow over the legal limit, you have to go try to defend yourself, costing thousands, most likely get convicted and lose your license anyways. So why blow?
Same thing i see in the future with this, i refuse what are you going to do? I already know that 5ng/ml means i am no longer allowed to drive, at all. Which brings me back to being a criminal.
Either way with the supreme courts call that it is not legal to force a blood draw i am refusing.
At this point if you are drunk driving (my biggest pet peeve) and you decline the breath test they just take your license for a year, and you have a defense. If you blow over the legal limit, you have to go try to defend yourself, costing thousands, most likely get convicted and lose your license anyways. So why blow?
Same thing i see in the future with this, i refuse what are you going to do? I already know that 5ng/ml means i am no longer allowed to drive, at all. Which brings me back to being a criminal.