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An Important Harm Reduction Message

Discussion in 'Hallucinatory Substances' started by MrEDuck, Sep 23, 2012.

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    Cannabliss88

    Cannabliss88 Member

    No its all waste time
     
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    Cannabliss88

    Cannabliss88 Member

    I don't think its even possible to get banned from this place. I'm living proof lol you have all been trolled
     
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    racerboy71

    racerboy71 bud bootlegger

    oh yeah, like i didn't know what you were doing from the first post.. great trolling, you need to go talk to uncle buck and get your game up.
     
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    bud nugbong

    bud nugbong Moderator

    Great way to get rid of the dancing night fairys!!
     
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    Mad Hamish

    Mad Hamish Well-Known Member

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    Mad Hamish

    Mad Hamish Well-Known Member

    What is the story with NOMBe's? IF that is the right name I got that is. It is a new series popping up here, seems to be low dosage high potency, several reports of severe psychotic episodes, convulsions, all sorts of mad bad shit. Making it here in drops and pills so far.
     
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    MrEDuck

    MrEDuck Well-Known Member

    The NBOMes are derivatives of the 2C drugs that have near LSD potency as psychedelics. Because they can be laid on blotter they get sold as acid a lot and that is where the trouble begins. While tryptamine based psychedelics are damn near impossible to fatally OD on that is absolutely not the case with the phenethylamines, so you get some unsuspecting kid who likes to go hard and eats 5-10 and they wind up going into convulsions and possibly dying.
    Chemically speaking the NBOMes are rather interesting as N substitution generally abolishes activ
     
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    Mad Hamish

    Mad Hamish Well-Known Member

    Cool I have a thread to follow up on. A friend of ours had these severe effects off a single drop. Tell me, do these react to ultraviolet the way LSD does? If not it is a quick way to check liquid at least. Edit: the 2c series is already a dualistic beast. With LSD like potency the line becomes very very narrow indeed.
     
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    MrEDuck

    MrEDuck Well-Known Member

    I'm not sure if they do but my guess would be yes based on the structure. Ehrlich reagent is the test kit you want for acid. It reacts with anything with an indole ring so it can be fooled pretty readily but the only psychedelic drug potent enough to go on blotter that would cause a false positive is 5MeO-AMT. If someone is that much of a douche I hope karma rapidly catches up to them.
    At sane doses the NBOMes actually sound like a very nice class of chemicals. They've been around long enough and used by enough people that I am actually planning on trying the -B version if I come across some that meets my standards. I have heard of a few freakouts on normal doses but I've seen plenty of people have overwhelming experiences on typical doses of traditional psychedelics. Some people just shouldn't trip. Unfortunately this is usually something they figure out afterwards.
     
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    Mad Hamish

    Mad Hamish Well-Known Member

    Yes this is very true. What bugs me about these NBOMe's is the South African habit of 'acid rapping' as it was called in the 60s. It is like a competition to see who can eat the most, and people go about it all wrong by consecutive doses rather than a fistfull of paper like we did back in the day. Fact is a younger me would probably be a casualty already i really did eat it bynthe handfull a few years ago. Hell this sounds like very bad news, we have a thriving rave culture with thousands of people getting high every weekend. Other thing is how liquid gets made up... lets just say lab precision is not a priority and people take pride in strong bottles. I am going to have to do my homework on this. I am still a total psychedelic fiend, nithing i wont try as long as it fractalizes my head lol, BUT I do want to know exactly what it is, not theoretically. I do think this solves the mystery of the grey acid from last year. That was something else. Thank gods I didnt trust the grey crystal
     
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    Mad Hamish

    Mad Hamish Well-Known Member

    Thanks for your assistance Mr Duck. S.A needs somebody like you around, it is getting messy here.
     
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    MrEDuck

    MrEDuck Well-Known Member

    Sadly it is everywhere. The idea that you should use your brain before setting it in vacation mode is hard for most to grasp. Combined with shady fucks who only concerned with their own profits and don't care who they hurt getting them it makes for a very bad scene.
    People just need to grasp that these aren't like LSD and that taking ten is likely to put you in the hospital or morgue. It is my understanding that if you do manage to develop that kind of tolerance to these you can expect to ruin other psychedelics for a very long time as well. But you could get them for pennies a dose out of China when they first hit the scene.
     
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    Mad Hamish

    Mad Hamish Well-Known Member

    Yeah it is all Chinese, moving through the new African drug trade route, if you go up to a certain central African country or two you can pick up RC's cheap as chips. Israeli travellers hitting the Cape scene with masses of dodgy shit. I used to like them but now all I want to do is kick them out the country. But they bring good business of the legitimate kind too so good luck to that. But the Chinese connection is undeniable. Whatever happened to guys like RaveSafe that used to test our pills and papers and inform us about new stuff hitting our market?! When 2c-b hit here in 2002 as 'nexus' they did a huge campaign informing heads about this new drug. I could get the tabs for what would amount to about ten US cents back then, now they wholesale for around 7 USD and no way it is pure. The original tabs were small and white now they are blue and large. Sucks being a head these days with all these reckless profiteers. All I want is real acid and now it is more rare than pure DMT. Suuuuuuucks.
     
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    Thundercat

    Thundercat Well-Known Member

    great read thanks duck! the only time i tried E it was bunk, but that is better then poison! some day i would love to try some real mdma though. its getting tested next time though
     
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    Mad Hamish

    Mad Hamish Well-Known Member

    If you want it it will come to you at the right time. Funny how it always works like that. And once is enough, that first time cannot be beat, if i could travel back in time I would have stopped at that first e experience. None ever came close after that, and i will remember that night and morning as long as i live.
     
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    rory420420

    rory420420 Well-Known Member

    ill
    ill come see ya ham..bring that good family love..
    nbomes are fun..i endorse their safe use..i had a bunch of 25c-nbome for my head,dosed at 1mg..one was great! everytime,a great trip..i never felt the need to take more..i did take 1.5 mg my first time,but it was .5 then 1 more tab a couple hours later..was testing the waters..other than the ten or so i sold(not as acid) to my buddy,and maybe 5 i gave away,i think i ate about 50 in a 8 month period or so..
    it gets the spuniard thumbs up:-)
     
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    MrEDuck

    MrEDuck Well-Known Member

    I'm surprised you weren't running into tolerance issues Rory. Everything I've read seems to indicate it takes about two weeks for NBOMe tolerance to reset compared to the week or less for other psychedelics. And tolerance to them can really fuck up other psychedelic experiences for many users.
     
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    revolutions"

    revolutions" New Member

    my bad get in the middle, but I something weird happen to my dog he's MDMA but 2014 fews knows what's are the rolling old molly ,so to finish dog was hype for 2 days looking for something same spot 2 hours then what fk he was looking, nothing that was creap
    Now I have he's food from China text 100 % love dancing talk and sex, I'm trying to make friends here
    Sorry my french ,I'm national from samba
     
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    revolutions"

    revolutions" New Member

    I need help anyone ever see this kind, I know Krystal clear means pure but some source sad the others can be good too
     

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    MrEDuck

    MrEDuck Well-Known Member

    You can have clear crystals that aren't pure.
    that looks like someone tried to rerock it but didn't melt it all the way. Weird.
     

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