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Another mass shooting.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Unclebaldrick, Nov 5, 2017.

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    schuylaar

    schuylaar Well-Known Member

    yeah, and they started that practice with the issuance of each bitcoin. you have to do that because there's no physical coin to hold.
     
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    schuylaar

    schuylaar Well-Known Member

    because capitalism is at all costs- including its citizens.

    as long as lobby vote counts over a citizens vote? this is what you're going to have.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    :clap:

    Did you notice how no response from the gun enthusiasts? I think your list would be a good start. I'd add a 25% tax on all ammunition and on gun sales whether used or new, private sale, gun show or gun shop designated to pay for background checks, data collection and safety/storage education and enforcement. The %amount of the tax to be reviewed and increased or decreased according to how well gun related accidents or crimes causing homicides or injuries compare to benchmark countries. Make the gun industry and its customers pay for the programs. It might give them incentive to clean up their act. Clearly, at this time they don't give a shit.
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    I haven't had time to respond. Been deer hunting. With a shotgun actually. I'm in brush.

    I will respond to what stow said. I'm ok with most of what he said. With the exception of the ten round thing. Some guns like a marlin .22 hold 16. My pistols hold 10-12.

    I wouldn't ban ar15 type weapons. Maybe nfa them and charge a little more like you were saying. They already have a 11% excise tax on them.

    I'm willing to work at it and make some changes.

    Ban bump stocks. If need be ban the larger drums that hold 45-100 rounds.

    Maybe 20 round limit if one needs to be imposed.
     
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    londonfog

    londonfog Well-Known Member

    please say with slugs not buckshots
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    Yea. Slugs. Buckshot is illegal and inhumane. I'm using an old 870 wingmaster with improved cylinder. I can hit a pop can at 100 yards with it.
     
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    Unclebaldrick

    Unclebaldrick Well-Known Member

    Yes, it would be. But they won't. It is just a salve to fool their fans and redirect the argument. Besides, mental health care is typically voluntary and people who are inclined to shoot a few dozen people are not likely to seek it out.
     
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    tangerinegreen555

    tangerinegreen555 Well-Known Member

    I was thinking of the church shooter with a history back to high school, military history of violent assault and threats to superior officers.

    He should have been forced into a mental health program.

    Of course, perfectly fine to buy weapons. Mental health isn't mentioned in the 2nd amendment. Crazy people need protect themselves from crazy people too, right?
     
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    Unclebaldrick

    Unclebaldrick Well-Known Member

    Why do you hate soda? :bigjoint:
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Good discussion on gun control.

    Want to be a gun collector? Curate a museum collection where the weapons are locked up or collect all you want- once they've been permanently disabled.

    Ban bump stocks and any other equipment, modifications or accessories that increase the rate of fire.

    15 round limit- and even that is still plenty for mass shootings- defined as 4 or more victims in a single incident.

    Universal background checks. Universal registration. Tax on purchase of weapons and ammunition.

    And holding the NRA legally accountable for the outrageous and inflammatory positions it holds. I'm old enough to remember when they were more interested in gun safety than political advocacy. I think they need to return to those roots- maybe they'll actually start saving more lives again.
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    Its bad for you.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    High fructose corn syrup is THE DEVIL!
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    Everything in moderation.
     
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    SneekyNinja

    SneekyNinja Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry but neither of you get it.

    It's not that they are recorded as much as they are the reward for people recording and confirming transactions in the blockchain.

    That's a hugely simplistic explanation, if you want more you should go read about it yourself, if you can understand it.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    ...moderation included!
     
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    Unclebaldrick

    Unclebaldrick Well-Known Member

    ^^^ cry for help.
     
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    schuylaar

    schuylaar Well-Known Member

    https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-texas-shooter-escaped-mental-health-facility
     
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    schuylaar

    schuylaar Well-Known Member

    in Florida, you can Baker Act and hold for 72 hours at mental health facility.
     
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    Unclebaldrick

    Unclebaldrick Well-Known Member

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    Unclebaldrick

    Unclebaldrick Well-Known Member

    Wow, 72 whole hours. Problem solved.
     

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