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Another white guy gun massacre.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by abandonconflict, Nov 7, 2017.

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    MrRoboto

    MrRoboto Well-Known Member

    Dickey Amendment - "None of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may be used to advocate or promote gun control."

    In other words "The government is not going to fund gun control propaganda from the CDC. Spend your money on other shit please - like traumatic brain injury research."
     
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    Justin-case

    Justin-case Well-Known Member


    Oh, thanks for clearing that up, retard.

    ] The amendment is named after its author Jay Dickey, a Republican member of the United States House of Representatives from Arkansas.[2] The amendment was introduced after lobbying by the National Rifle Association in response to their perceived bias in a 1993 study by Arthur Kellermann that found that guns in the home were associated with an increased risk of homicide in the home, as well as other CDC funded studies and efforts.
     
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    MrRoboto

    MrRoboto Well-Known Member

    You are welcome :bigjoint:
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    yes it is, i even cited the law. you whiny bitchass whites thinks anything that proves how deadly guns are in anti-gun instead of pro-reality
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    it wasn't gun control propaganda, it was a simple study that showed that having a gun in the house makes you 40 times more likely to kill yourself or a loved one rather than stop an intruder.

    you little bitches got all snowflakey about the facts and called it gun control propaganda. whiny little bitches.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    You are quite right. The CDC can't fund studies, only Congress can authorize funding. Congress stripped any funding for studying gun violence from CDC's budget. The sticky point in your whacked argument is that under the Dickey amendment, the only acceptable outcome from a study is that guns are safe. Which is why the CDC is constrained against doing a study because guns ownership creates a hazard for most, not safety.

    The data are already available for anybody to factually state that for the vast majority of gun owners, they are less safe owning the gun than if they don't. We don't need a study for that. We need studies to help us figure out ways to reduce non-suicide death from guns to at least the levels seen on other western first world economies. That is effectively blocked by the dual actions of keeping the Dickey amendment in effect and the actions of Congress to strip away funding for such studies. The NRA is a powerful lobby/marketing tool for gun manufacturers and they have this Republican controlled congress in their pocket regarding this.

    Paradoxically, you and other gun rights wackos are hastening the day of strict gun ownership laws by preventing research into alternatives.
     
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    MrRoboto

    MrRoboto Well-Known Member

    No it is not.
    You can go study gun violence right this second UncleBuck. You will not be arrested.
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    yeah, let me go do that without any funds. because not funding studies on public health crises is just a good idea.

    40,000 a year dead due to guns and republicans say we can not fund studies on how to fix that because their feelings get hurt.

    you little fucking bitch.
     
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    Unclebaldrick

    Unclebaldrick Well-Known Member

    If we just work harder we won't have time to notice it.
     
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    MrRoboto

    MrRoboto Well-Known Member

    Against the law and no budget for the Center for Disease Control to promote gun control are two entirely different things. You spread fake news.

    There are grants for gun violence research through the Department of Justice. Apply there sir.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    So, how is it going over there in the DOJ regarding this issue. They have been at it for 20 years. Any progress? Any startling things that have come out of it? Over those 20 years, about 180,000 homicides from firearms and the trend is flat. 9,000 more will die next year. No other first world western country has anywhere near this level of homicides due to guns or anything else for that matter. DOJ have made no progress in 20 years. DOJ has been spending about 2 million dollars on research each year and showing no progress towards reducing homicides due to guns. Is this satisfactory to you?
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2017
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    why do you think the study which showed that a gun in the home is 40 times more likely to kill you than to stop an intruder "promotes gun control"?

    i think it just demonstrates the false sense of safety that having a gun gives to insecure little bitches like you.
     
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    see4

    see4 Well-Known Member

    Another 5 star thread. Will read again, will recommend to friends and family.
     
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    abandonconflict

    abandonconflict Well-Known Member

    Be careful not to anger the whites, they tend to have guns and are known to be violent.
     
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    MrRoboto

    MrRoboto Well-Known Member

    It is what it is. I don't pretend to know a solution to gun violence. I have not taken a stance here as a gun advocate.

    I merely pointed out that it is not against the law to research gun violence, as buck erroneously informed our Canadian friend.

    You, however, have not said anything untrue that I am aware. Carry on:clap:
     
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    Justin-case

    Justin-case Well-Known Member


    It's pathetic buck has to post an over statement for your sore ass to have the courage to post, lmao. Run along now, racist pos.
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    yes it is because every study finds that guns cause gun violence and you pussies freak out and cry that the study advocates gun control.

    losers
     
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    MrRoboto

    MrRoboto Well-Known Member

    It's sweet the way you follow buck around. We all think it's cute. When you grow up maybe you can offer something useful to a discussion sweety.
     
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    SneekyNinja

    SneekyNinja Well-Known Member

    You know statistics so therefore I know that you know that the figures you cite are hugely misleading.

    We don't need misleading figures, the case for gun control makes itself.
     
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    UncleBuck

    UncleBuck Well-Known Member

    sorry for being misleading.

    40 times more likely is wrong.

    it is actually 43 times more likely that you kill yourself or a loved one rather than an intruder:

    for every self-defense homicide via firearm, there were 43 suicides, criminal homicides, or accidental gunshot deaths.[11]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Kellermann
     
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