Area 51 - SolarFlare

wadz

Member
http://area51lighting.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=15
$563

Thinking about ordering the light to go full cycle veg+flower. i would want the flowering model correct with 3watt diodes?
Why is it +$54.00 to add 1 watt diodes instead of having 3.. i thought the higher the watt diode the better with LED. and i see solarflare is 5watt diode.

Would you pick this area 52 LED over the Solarflare from california lightworks?

http://californialightworks.com/Products_SolarFlare.htm
$449

Do i want optical lenses?

I'm ready to buy a LED tired of waiting/reading think im dead set on one of these 2.
 

Max Renn

Member
That Area 51 LED, I bought from them a few weeks ago. The 150x3 flower model, and a 50x3 veg model.

So far I can't say much about them, other than their good customer service, and the lights looking cool and being bright, it's all guesses until harvest. I am still waiting on seeds, I'll start a journal when they arrive.

I ordered my seeds from Sannies, does anyone know how long they take? I ordered about 10 days ago.
 

wadz

Member
@kushman gl60

@maxren 14 days for me on my last order from them.

Let's try to find an answer here. Which led is the better one out the 2 I listed
 
I got my light from the same place you're talking about.
I got mine like almost 2 months ago. I paid $550 for mine, they said on the phone it was 280w actual wattage. I have a 3x3 tent I'm gonna run this light in.
I'm gonna do a couple outdoor plants also this summer to make sure, 280w of nothing has ever gotten me through any winters in my last 30 years of growing and smoking.
 

wadz

Member
@vunterslaush What light is 280 actual draw? solar flare or area 51? your post confuses me and im medicated atm :)
i dont know what shop/light you are talking about. i posted 2 links to 2 different manufactures.. anyone have any videos of solar Flare's in action?
 

jubiare

Active Member
THERE'S A SOLARSTORM GROW THE GUY HAS JUST STARTED FLOWERING LOOKING GOOD .. FOR ANYONE INTERESTED.

GOOGLE
California Lightworks Solarstorm Trial
 

The Dawg

Well-Known Member
The Area-51 Led Gives Ya More Bang For Your Buck.3x150 Area-51 Total Power Draw 280 Watts Solar Flare 5x40 Total Power Draw 165 Watts.Peace And Pussytail Grease :weed:
 

wadz

Member
Area 51- Lifetime warranty+modular design for ease of replacement

solar Flare- 2year warranty+no modular design. unit would need to be shipped off.
 

wadz

Member
Area 51 made in china..
Solar Flare made in usa.

think when you look at everything Area 51 is better all around. Solar Flare is legit with the 5w diodes...think Solar Flare needs to redo there design or stick to Solar Storm with the UV-B if it wasnt for that light i dont think anyone would even know of the company
 

puffenuff

Well-Known Member
If the choice were mine to make, i'd go with california lightworks over area 51. Better parts and better build.
 
The Area-51 Led Gives Ya More Bang For Your Buck.3x150 Area-51 Total Power Draw 280 Watts Solar Flare 5x40 Total Power Draw 165 Watts.
More watts does not necessarily mean better, or more light.

It could mean lower-quality emitters driven harder to compensate for a lack of efficiency, too.

Though personally, I'd prefer it if CLW used more '3w' emitters driven at nominal levels, than fewer '5w' ones driven at an average of 4w each. You'll get more light that way, and greater efficiency. More costly for the manufacturer, though - which is why few do it.

Peace And Pussytail Grease :weed:
What a curious phrase. I learned something new today. :blsmoke:

Probably best not to repeat that one in 'Polite Company.' ;-)

Why is it +$54.00 to add 1 watt diodes instead of having 3.. i thought the higher the watt diode the better with LED.
Area 51 is using a standard, 12x24 light board. This allows up to 288 potential spaces for LEDs. Their '3w' model states they use 150 LEDs, driven @ ~280w. This means that a little over half of the spaces actually contain emitters.

If their '1w' light also draws roughly the same wattage, they would have to fill nearly every space on the board with emitters. This means virtually doubling the emitter quantity. While '1w' emitters are generally cheaper, you're also having to use more of them on the board, which would account for the price difference.

Note that you'll get more total light out of using more '1w' emitters (if they're of roughly the same quality) run at the same total wattage as the '3w', though their throw will be different.

Do i want optical lenses?
This will largely depend on your growing style.

if you're using ScrOG, where you only really care about producing an even canopy over the top ~6-8", you don't need lenses at all. You'll also get a wider footprint out of the light when you raise it a couple of inches.

If you plan on growing taller plants, you may need the tighter lensing to reach the lower branches of your plants. You will, of course, lose footprint (coverage). There is no free lunch.

Note that using any lens will lose you about 10% of your total light, in even the best of circumstances. If your gardening style can utilize most or all of the emitted (direct) light without relying on using either reflecting surfaces or lenses, that would be best.

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Personally, outside of garden maintenance requirements, I think anyone growing taller plants under any sort of indoor lighting, especially in single room gardens, is doing themselves a disservice. The shorter, the better.



Cheers,

-TL
 

The Dawg

Well-Known Member
Your Point's Are Very True Brother Lurker And It Also Sounds Like The Conversation I Had With The Guy's At Area-51.I Cant Find My Notes But I Was Assured That They Use Top Bin Leds And They were Slightly Bigger Than The Cheap China Made Leds Also I Was Told They Dont Drive Them As Hard As Some Of The Other Led Companies Do.I Plan On Giving Area-51 The Nod When I Jump Into Leds this Summer. :bigjoint:

Now Dont Read Anything Into My Peace And Whatever Comes After.It All Started With Peace And Hair Grease As A Joke And It Sort Of Blossumed From There.Peace And Be Cool Be Cool Keep Pimping Dont Sleep We Roll Deep In A Lincon :clap:
 

wadz

Member
I Cant Find My Notes But I Was Assured That They Use Top Bin Leds And They were Slightly Bigger Than The Cheap China Made Leds
pretty sure Area 51 is built in china. you saying anything from china is junk? i was under impression they had some decent stuff just need to find right people.
I think Area 51 uses Epistar from the email they sent me.. from what i have gathered Epistar Are decent. but there pushed hard to there limit. i hear Semi/bridge are both way better quality LED's that come from china i think. once again i could be all wrong. this LED bandwagon is crazy atm
 

cityworker415

Well-Known Member
I have a 200 watt solar flare and its a great 2x2 full cycle. even though when i look at the spectrum chart there is WAY more red,far red than blue. vegging great though
 

puffenuff

Well-Known Member
If the choice were mine to make, i'd go with california lightworks over area 51. Better parts and better build.
Whoa! Old post here but now having owned the newer sgs model, I can say I do recommend area51 and am happy with the cree LEDs and the build is well made. Can't suggest it over California light works since I haven't used that one. Both are solid in my opinion
 

Chronikool

Well-Known Member
Hahaha.....A company who has made massive strides it seems.....listening to customers/reading forums...one day i will play with one of these....when i can afford the shipping to my place in the world... :)
 

cityworker415

Well-Known Member
http://area51lighting.com//index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=15
$563

Thinking about ordering the light to go full cycle veg+flower. i would want the flowering model correct with 3watt diodes?
Why is it +$54.00 to add 1 watt diodes instead of having 3.. i thought the higher the watt diode the better with LED. and i see solarflare is 5watt diode.





Would you pick this area 52 LED over the Solarflare from california lightworks?

http://californialightworks.com/Products_SolarFlare.htm
$449

Do i want optical lenses?

I'm ready to buy a LED tired of waiting/reading think im dead set on one of these 2.




Hi there, here is my 2cents. i bought a CLW 200 watt led, 160 act.watts FULL CYCLE. this did a great job on small plants and clones. but when i started to flower i was not impressed greatly so i added the same light but in bloom only spectrum.
Big difference! if you can always buy pure spectrum lighting.
 
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