Auto floweting not budding?help needed!

Sahlen

Member
Hi..got 3 auto great white shark and 7 auto AK-47 xtrm ordered from dutchseedsshop.first of all i ordered 10 seeds each and to my suprise they complimented with 12 extra of each strain!so far i was very happy..problems started right a way.i started to germinate 5 seeds of each.only 2 AK's sprouted after 4days.the rest staid in moist towel for 14 days before they was ruined.during this time i germinated another 5 each.i did the gentle seed edge sanding.i used hydrogen peroxide and water 20/70 in a cup which the seeds staid in until the sunk to the bottom which all but 2 did after 12hrs i put the 8 in moist paper towel with ro water.after 24hrs 4 sprouted.i repeated this with the remaining 24 seeds.and only another 4 sprouted after only 12 hrs all other seeds never sprouted.(ive done germination on reg seeds growing constantly for 3yrs without any problems.non sprouting seeds can be counted on one hand through all this time!)well i planted the seeds in 3gallon pots with mychorrizae(think its how its spelled?) high porosity soil which ive used for the passed 2years with great result on reg seeds.1week only ro water..after i have been using general hydroponics grow micro and bloom for base nutes,a 1/4 and increased to half streingth as recommended by experienced auto grower,i used B-52.voodoo juice.cal-mag+.rhinoskin and big bud at recommended auto amount and start to end day..week 2 i added co2 cannister.switched it every 3weeks.i use 2 x 1000w led 100 x 5w double chip.grow are for these is 6' x 4' x 8'. 77f with night drop to 72f.everything is dieled in perfect for reg cannaplants as this have been working awesome in the past!
My plants are now MONSTERS!obviously did some light training(tie down main stalk for better penitration and coverage.worked beautifully on all!) the tallest is now 6 foot 8inches with most branshes reaching over 5foot(great white shark)
And the smalles 4foot 3inches(great white shark)
Tallest AK is 5 foot 2inches and smallest is now just over 3 feet.keeping an even canopy by raising shorter plants.all are producing a vast ammount of bud sights and a lot of pistils shooting out(pre flowers) at week 4(day 21 starting)they are looking healthy and amazing..ak 47 xtrm according to dutchseedsshop finish in 50-56 days & great white shark 56 - 60 days.i know this is the ultimate in condition,top seeds and so on but im now at day 71 and still just got a massive amount of bud sights and pistils no bud growth.
Two weeks a go i switched them from 20/4 to 18/6 changed the base nutes to full bloom but with very little if any improvments,so 2 days a go i switched again to 10/14 keeping nutes at half bloom ratio.should i keep this regime for at least a week in hope the light cycle will kick them into blooming properly or do i switch to 12/12 right away or do i start over with new batch???hope to find some answers from anyone that dealt with this and had a good outcome!!
pls help i really dont want to pull these gorgeous ladies!!!
 
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chemphlegm

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my eyes are sore.

if they didnt flower under your light they are not autoflowers. yours are sexually mature now.
top them for an even canopy, expect them to double/triple in size in flower,
dont ever talk about defoliation or complain of monsters in flower here either.
change lights to 12/12 in one day when ready to initiate flowering. sit back and watch the magic happen
 

chemphlegm

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growing for 3 years and still you consider trashing these plants after investing all this time and cash in them because why?
 

Sahlen

Member
Well as this is my first auto flower grow.and knowing autoflowers dont go by light cycle but rather by time i dont want to invest even more time,nute,light on them if they just going to die off before they are done anyway.doesnt matter if youve been growing reg cannaplants for a 100yrs when you run into problems with something new(like this) its to me a very wise thing to ask on a forum with experienced auto growers for help(not dumb remarks)right?if there is a way to save what ive got is possible or not!!thats why!but thanks for your input..and if you do have some 'useful' input which im sure this part of the forum is for it would be greatly welcomed!i really didnt post this thread to answer questions about what i should or shouldnt know but to get helping answers for a problem i obviously dont know!!again first time trying on auto flowering!!
 

chemphlegm

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Did you even read the last sentence in my post?
I gave you facts, no need to be a prick about it

"change lights to 12/12 in one day when ready to initiate flowering.

why would they die off before they produce buds?
cannabis plants can vegetate for years and years without dying off. If they are really auto's they'll flower under full time light,
if not then they will flower under 12/12. any questions?
 

Sahlen

Member
my eyes are sore.

if they didnt flower under your light they are not autoflowers. yours are sexually mature now.
top them for an even canopy, expect them to double/triple in size in flower,
dont ever talk about defoliation or complain of monsters in flower here either.
change lights to 12/12 in one day when ready to initiate flowering. sit back and watch the magic happen

Thanks!!!...will put them on 12/12.today!!
I didnt and i would never complain bout a cannaplant being a monster just a statement as they are in rather small pots for their size.and all ive done to these ladies is some light training(slowly bent the main stem started from 1 week old seedlings bent into a upward spiral keeping them lower despite of being very tall). This bending proved to be way way better then to just leave them be as all the side branshes are even with the top on each plant without having to do anything else.no trimming or anything else as i treated them as the auto flowering they where suppose to have been.would have been perfect sized pots if the info on plant size was correct from the seed supplier but Size make sence if they are reg seeds thats been growing for 71days and not auto.but as they started pre flowering at day 21 under 20/4 i didnt even suspect it could be anything but auto???
But thanks again.and i will put 12/12 and treat them as reg and hope it solved it!!
 

Sahlen

Member
Did you even read the last sentence in my post?
I gave you facts, no need to be a prick about it

"change lights to 12/12 in one day when ready to initiate flowering.

why would they die off before they produce buds?
cannabis plants can vegetate for years and years without dying off. If they are really auto's they'll flower under full time light,
if not then they will flower under 12/12. any questions?
Your reply ended at :after 3yrs of growing you consider to thrash them.why: didnt get the rest of it then! and Youre right and i apologise..didnt mean to be a prick..
Just been through a few other forums where people rather mark others for what they should know and try to down people instead of helping them.
But yes i am putting them on 12/12 today and will be crossing my fingers here..
And again appologies for being a prick..not me at all!
 

Sahlen

Member
Your reply ended at :after 3yrs of growing you consider to thrash them.why: didnt get the rest of it then! and Youre right and i apologise..didnt mean to be a prick..
Just been through a few other forums where people rather mark others for what they should know and try to down people instead of helping them.
But yes i am putting them on 12/12 today and will be crossing my fingers here..
And again appologies for being a prick..not me at all!
I keep getting split up msg and couldnt see who wrote what...thanks chem..really..if this solves my problem i owe you one!!
 

macsnax

Well-Known Member
my eyes are sore.

if they didnt flower under your light they are not autoflowers. yours are sexually mature now.
top them for an even canopy, expect them to double/triple in size in flower,
dont ever talk about defoliation or complain of monsters in flower here either.
change lights to 12/12 in one day when ready to initiate flowering. sit back and watch the magic happen
Don't ever talk about defoliation or complain of monsters in flower...... Lol that's too funny and true.

The first rule of the defoliation club.... is you do not talk about the defoliation club.....
 

chemphlegm

Well-Known Member
if it is an auto it will continue to flower even at 12/12. I wouldnt change from the 12/12
for them though. gonna be trees soon, post pics if you can, love me some trees!
 
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