Autoflowers indoor - It really is that simple

Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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HighLowGrow said:
Hey you are the one that said “ I don’t grow autos”. And now you do?
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You must be drunk or high.dude I have an auto madness thread going right now.i also posted a shit load of auto pics under the post your auto pics thread.i do grow autos.I feminized 2 of my best autos and got.like 1000 seeds last year.im sitting here looking at 12 of them in pots right now.Im also on the auto forum under The Plant Whisperer so I can back it up.i grow autos.doesnt.mean I like em.you can't keep em,can't clone them,have to start everything from seed and deal with multiple phenos in the same bucket,the yield Can be hit or miss plant to plant.list goes on but I can pull a pound and a half on a 4x5 scrog in DWC running co2 in 70 days flat so yeah I still run them.
 
Heisengrow

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This and all the shit you see hanging in the back came off 6 plants,4 rows of tops..All autos.i grow them lol.

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HighLowGrow

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Just chill brutha. This isn’t my dick is bigger than yours. I know this thread isn’t the “grow bible” for autos. Just showing my experiences and whats worked for me. I’m not looking for an argument. And I’m certainly not saying I’m a bad ass grower. But I do pretty well for myself.
 
dankesthours182

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Yodaweed said:
Who said anything about running auto's 12/12 i was talking about growing photo's , much cheaper and you get more weight for your time and money. Not to mention they are more potent (ruderalis lowers potency) and you can keep the standouts instead of rolling the dice every time and praying for the best.
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The ruderalis doesn't lower potency, it shifts that potency to cbd, cbd and other terpenes and cannabinoids . Sure, some plants are less potent, but that's a fact, ruderalis actually are quite often as frosty as photos nowadays.
 
belgianweednoob

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Highlowgrow, I'm sure as hell kinda envious on your results! Hps proving it's standard once again, I'm currently using a 480 watts apollo led light on my auto's, at 20/4, might be trying 24hrs my next grow. Also I dig your growingphilosophy, small pots and such. Have you tried growing in coco/mapito/rockwool?
 
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frizzayy

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Majikoopa said:
Hey HighLowGrow,

I just wanted to say I really love your style. I've always been a fan of running multiple autoflowering plants in a small space with high quality organics in soil. Less mess, less stress I say! Your grows look a lot like how my old Lowryder grows used to go. Keep it up and enjoy!

Starting some new batches soon- fem. autoflowering carmelicious and fem. autoflowering northern lights, each plant under a dedicated 300W LED light. Would you mind reading my setup description? I pasted the link below.

http://rollitup.org/t/autoflower-grow-under-300-watt-mars-leds.922737/

Would love your feedback! I know you'd recommend HPS, but for someone on my budget, space allotment, etc. LED is what I can do for now given my current closet. Thanks!
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Sorry old thread but I got something like this I don't see how you ran 2 mars300 is there any led stronger that's cooler money is not a problem for my little ones but size sadly is :( something same size just more powerful with low temps
 

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frizzayy said:
Sorry old thread but I got something like this I don't see how you ran 2 mars300 is there any led stronger that's cooler money is not a problem for my little ones but size sadly is :( something same size just more powerful with low temps
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Looking at your box I see you have some crap sitting on your light, possibly insulating the unit... if you don't want a house fire I may suggest taking all of that stuff off of there and mounting it in a more organized way. As far as heat goes, yeah the mars 300 is pretty warm... it worked well for me being in a closet that was adjacent to the outside in the winter. The cold seeped in and all was well. My autos never came (screw amsterdammarijuanaseeds.com, don't use them!) but ended up doing really well w/ some night nurse. Yes, two of these lights worked fine when I was on a budget, have now done three nice grows with decent yields. No, it isn't magic but good ventilation is key. For me, just keeping the closet door open and the house temp regulated worked fine, even in the summer.

My recommendation: if these are too hot for that little box, just leave the door open or reorganize your life and use a different closet in your place if that is the issue. Maybe look into growing with fluorescent... I have had good luck in tight quarters with those. A couple small tips for the road; your girls may be struggling in those little peat pots because there is no room for roots and they look pretty dry. Try reporting in a bigger pot, it acts as a moisture reservoir. Your light looks pretty far away too. Mine sits about 10" max, but in flower it can be as close as 5" once they are used to that. I see your temp and humidity are within acceptable bounds so I would check into other problems: ph, moisture levels, how much circulation you have. The plants on the left look super dry and possibly experiencing some nute lockout. New sprouts must be kept moist. Also, I am counting 5 fans in that tiny box... you may ne drying out or "wind shearing" your leaves in the wind tunnel friend.

I won't say they are the best lights, but try checking into those things and you can have a successful grow. Don't give up! :)

Go to a specialty garden shop or research online (plenty of people on this forum have opinions, trust me) if you want a recommendation on a brand of light... I only know mine and that, if you have strong fundamentals, you can grow a ton of bud with em... everything else needs to be strong first though. Peace.
 
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frizzayy

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Majikoopa said:
Looking at your box I see you have some crap sitting on your light, possibly insulating the unit... if you don't want a house fire I may suggest taking all of that stuff off of there and mounting it in a more organized way. As far as heat goes, yeah the mars 300 is pretty warm... it worked well for me being in a closet that was adjacent to the outside in the winter. The cold seeped in and all was well. My autos never came (screw amsterdammarijuanaseeds.com, don't use them!) but ended up doing really well w/ some night nurse. Yes, two of these lights worked fine when I was on a budget, have now done three nice grows with decent yields. No, it isn't magic but good ventilation is key. For me, just keeping the closet door open and the house temp regulated worked fine, even in the summer.

My recommendation: if these are too hot for that little box, just leave the door open or reorganize your life and use a different closet in your place if that is the issue. Maybe look into growing with fluorescent... I have had good luck in tight quarters with those. A couple small tips for the road; your girls may be struggling in those little peat pots because there is no room for roots and they look pretty dry. Try reporting in a bigger pot, it acts as a moisture reservoir. Your light looks pretty far away too. Mine sits about 10" max, but in flower it can be as close as 5" once they are used to that. I see your temp and humidity are within acceptable bounds so I would check into other problems: ph, moisture levels, how much circulation you have. The plants on the left look super dry and possibly experiencing some nute lockout. New sprouts must be kept moist. Also, I am counting 5 fans in that tiny box... you may ne drying out or "wind shearing" your leaves in the wind tunnel friend.

I won't say they are the best lights, but try checking into those things and you can have a successful grow. Don't give up! :)

Go to a specialty garden shop or research online (plenty of people on this forum have opinions, trust me) if you want a recommendation on a brand of light... I only know mine and that, if you have strong fundamentals, you can grow a ton of bud with em... everything else needs to be strong first though. Peace.
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Best anserw yet my man yea there's a tiny fan on top of the light connected to a battery port I thought no nutrients for the young girls ? Do u like the box overal tho ? I used to grow in a real room with 1000hps but this is the gf spot and I'm lucky to have this just weed is getting pricey a oz a week :(
 
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frizzayy

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Majikoopa said:
Looking at your box I see you have some crap sitting on your light, possibly insulating the unit... if you don't want a house fire I may suggest taking all of that stuff off of there and mounting it in a more organized way. As far as heat goes, yeah the mars 300 is pretty warm... it worked well for me being in a closet that was adjacent to the outside in the winter. The cold seeped in and all was well. My autos never came (screw amsterdammarijuanaseeds.com, don't use them!) but ended up doing really well w/ some night nurse. Yes, two of these lights worked fine when I was on a budget, have now done three nice grows with decent yields. No, it isn't magic but good ventilation is key. For me, just keeping the closet door open and the house temp regulated worked fine, even in the summer.

My recommendation: if these are too hot for that little box, just leave the door open or reorganize your life and use a different closet in your place if that is the issue. Maybe look into growing with fluorescent... I have had good luck in tight quarters with those. A couple small tips for the road; your girls may be struggling in those little peat pots because there is no room for roots and they look pretty dry. Try reporting in a bigger pot, it acts as a moisture reservoir. Your light looks pretty far away too. Mine sits about 10" max, but in flower it can be as close as 5" once they are used to that. I see your temp and humidity are within acceptable bounds so I would check into other problems: ph, moisture levels, how much circulation you have. The plants on the left look super dry and possibly experiencing some nute lockout. New sprouts must be kept moist. Also, I am counting 5 fans in that tiny box... you may ne drying out or "wind shearing" your leaves in the wind tunnel friend.

I won't say they are the best lights, but try checking into those things and you can have a successful grow. Don't give up! :)

Go to a specialty garden shop or research online (plenty of people on this forum have opinions, trust me) if you want a recommendation on a brand of light... I only know mine and that, if you have strong fundamentals, you can grow a ton of bud with em... everything else needs to be strong first though. Peace.
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And they say keep light 24inches from seedling u think I should move it closer ?
 
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frizzayy said:
And they say keep light 24inches from seedling u think I should move it closer ?
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And for wind tunnel I know what ur saying honestly I'm not sure if that top fan is doing anything at all somewhere I heard it's good to move co2 around especially from the top area but hey I'm not botanist also will leaving the door open let light escape I know that might sound dumb but does that do anything
 
Majikoopa

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frizzayy said:
And for wind tunnel I know what ur saying honestly I'm not sure if that top fan is doing anything at all somewhere I heard it's good to move co2 around especially from the top area but hey I'm not botanist also will leaving the door open let light escape I know that might sound dumb but does that do anything
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Hey man just trying to help. Yeah no nutes for new girlies, but they will still need to uptake nutrients from the soil. Usually that means no *added* nutrients for the first few weeks. I avoid keeping mine in a peat pot for long and usually put in a pot really quick if I even use them. That said, keeping an eye on the PH is important so the plant can uptake everything they need from the soil. I typically use dry organic nutes that break down over time (Happy Frog or similar), that way the plant won't get burned by nutes.

If you are using a Mars Hydro 300, you can get it a lot closer. For seedlings I let mine be 12 inches away and let them grow into the light until 8 inches and adjust. During flowering Ive let them be as close as 5" if the plant seems happy. Don't worry, it isn't a crazy powerful light, but it'll get the job done.

Now for the concern about cracking the door- yes, you do want as much light as possible, but not at the expense of stressing the plants. If you are getting 80°F or more temps even with your exhaust fans blowing, then crack the door and let that heat out. I've had to do that with the Mars lights before but it kept em at a comfy 75°... those suckers put out heat unfortunately. Remember that reflected light from the sides is a bonus, but if your plants are stressed they may herm or have less yield than if they were at proper temp.

Ok on to the fan concern... yes you want a light breeze to prevent molding, get circulation, etc. No, you dont need 5 fans in a tiny box. If you are getting more than the faintest jiggle from your wind, then you could be stressing your plants. I would wager to say that your exhaust/intake fans are probably enough. The other two are probably overkill if they are blowing on the plants directly. Think indirect circulation.

Overall it is a pretty slick looking box man. Plants can thrive in all kinds of environments- - my first grow was a micro grow with 2 foot high plants under a captain's bed (bed w/ drawers) hollowed out and small T 12 lights doing lowryder. A micro grow CAN be done, just keep the temp, ph, and circulation in check and repot your girlies in bigger pots/ move the lights closer and you will be A- OK.
 
Majikoopa

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frizzayy said:
Best anserw yet my man yea there's a tiny fan on top of the light connected to a battery port I thought no nutrients for the young girls ? Do u like the box overal tho ? I used to grow in a real room with 1000hps but this is the gf spot and I'm lucky to have this just weed is getting pricey a oz a week :(
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I DO like the box overall man- I love doing a tiny box grow as my first grow was probably 2ft by 2ft by 2ft under my bed when I was living with family and being discreet lol. Even today the lady decides which closet she wants to give up and, needless to say, it isn't the ideal space to grow in.... but the lady is more important than the herb.

I don't think you will get 1 oz per week off of that, more like 4 oz every few months... but don't be discouraged, you will save some cash for sure.
 
HighLowGrow

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A micro grow CAN be done,

Yes it can. I started with a computer case. It has two computer fans. One in one out and 4 cfls across the top. Worked pretty good with a lot of SLT. I still have it.

Now I’m in a 6’x6’x6’ room with a 600 and 400hps hanging in there. I finally found what works for me and my needs.
 
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frizzayy

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Heisengrow said:
You must be drunk or high.dude I have an auto madness thread going right now.i also posted a shit load of auto pics under the post your auto pics thread.i do grow autos.I feminized 2 of my best autos and got.like 1000 seeds last year.im sitting here looking at 12 of them in pots right now.Im also on the auto forum under The Plant Whisperer so I can back it up.i grow autos.doesnt.mean I like em.you can't keep em,can't clone them,have to start everything from seed and deal with multiple phenos in the same bucket,the yield Can be hit or miss plant to plant.list goes on but I can pull a pound and a half on a 4x5 scrog in DWC running co2 in 70 days flat so yeah I still run them.
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Get em
Majikoopa said:
I DO like the box overall man- I love doing a tiny box grow as my first grow was probably 2ft by 2ft by 2ft under my bed when I was living with family and being discreet lol. Even today the lady decides which closet she wants to give up and, needless to say, it isn't the ideal space to grow in.... but the lady is more important than the herb.

I don't think you will get 1 oz per week off of that, more like 4 oz every few months... but don't be discouraged, you will save some cash for sure.
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yo ty all great info I'll kill the fans and listen to u all obsv know way more then I think I do I'll keep posting pics maybe these brownish dots will go away
 

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frizzayy

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Majikoopa said:
Hey man just trying to help. Yeah no nutes for new girlies, but they will still need to uptake nutrients from the soil. Usually that means no *added* nutrients for the first few weeks. I avoid keeping mine in a peat pot for long and usually put in a pot really quick if I even use them. That said, keeping an eye on the PH is important so the plant can uptake everything they need from the soil. I typically use dry organic nutes that break down over time (Happy Frog or similar), that way the plant won't get burned by nutes.

If you are using a Mars Hydro 300, you can get it a lot closer. For seedlings I let mine be 12 inches away and let them grow into the light until 8 inches and adjust. During flowering Ive let them be as close as 5" if the plant seems happy. Don't worry, it isn't a crazy powerful light, but it'll get the job done.

Now for the concern about cracking the door- yes, you do want as much light as possible, but not at the expense of stressing the plants. If you are getting 80°F or more temps even with your exhaust fans blowing, then crack the door and let that heat out. I've had to do that with the Mars lights before but it kept em at a comfy 75°... those suckers put out heat unfortunately. Remember that reflected light from the sides is a bonus, but if your plants are stressed they may herm or have less yield than if they were at proper temp.

Ok on to the fan concern... yes you want a light breeze to prevent molding, get circulation, etc. No, you dont need 5 fans in a tiny box. If you are getting more than the faintest jiggle from your wind, then you could be stressing your plants. I would wager to say that your exhaust/intake fans are probably enough. The other two are probably overkill if they are blowing on the plants directly. Think indirect circulation.

Overall it is a pretty slick looking box man. Plants can thrive in all kinds of environments- - my first grow was a micro grow with 2 foot high plants under a captain's bed (bed w/ drawers) hollowed out and small T 12 lights doing lowryder. A micro grow CAN be done, just keep the temp, ph, and circulation in check and repot your girlies in bigger pots/ move the lights closer and you will be A- OK.
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Another thing. i just let the girls sleep for 3 hours instead of 24/0 ...but I'm thinking will the autos stretch more with 20/4? Bc rn they look nice n short even for a sativa
 
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