AZOMITE
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Rasta Roy
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I personally don't use azomite or soft rock Phosphate because of the heavy metals they carry. I prefer greensand and basalt for my soil mineralization.
NaturalFarmer
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I have used azomite in the past because everyone said it was great.....A-Z.......Hydrated Sodium Calcium Aluminosilicate.......11.5% alumininum.....I decided to go a different root, returned 50lb bag of it, tried sea-90 for a few runs and saw no sense in that sea salt shit and think now kelp (micros) and rice hulls(silica) are the only thing needed as a replacment....maybe some comfrey and yarrow for the copper and micros if you can.
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backtracker
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Watch out where the kelp comes from " Kelp Granules from Maine Coast are the highest by far at over 900 ppm aluminum. "
backtracker
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The alumina in AZOMITE® is not biologically available. It is bound to the silica and is an aluminosilicate. "Aluminum the metal" can only be derived from "alumina" through the process of smelting. Sand, clay, most rock deposits, and soil deposits are primarily aluminosilicates. In the words of Sally Fallon, President of the Weston Price foundation, "It does contain aluminum, but it is also rich in silica, which counteracts the aluminum. People have been eating clay and dirt as a tradition for thousands of years and all clay contains aluminum and silica."
NaturalFarmer
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Is that high? I think you are referring to edible sources of kelp. Maine Coast is a food grade kelp company and maybe you are thinking about Coast of Maine Compost?
backtracker
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Does it make a difference, eating the kelp or eating the food grown with the kelp? I see kelp from Main for gardening and eating they're the same plant growing in the same water. Kelp from New Zealand has the lowest amount of heavy metals and contaminants, best to get it from the cleanest waters away from cities.
NaturalFarmer
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"When pH drops below 5.5, aluminosilicate clays and aluminium hydroxide minerals begin to dissolve, releasing aluminium-hydroxy cations and A l ( H 2 O )6 3 + (A l3 +), that then exchange with other cations. On that conditions, A l3 + also forms the mononuclear species A l O H2 +, A l ( O H )2+, Al(OH)3, and Al(OH)4 [3]. The mononuclear A l3 +species and Al13 are considered as the most toxic forms [4, 5]."
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jb/2012/219462/
I really couldn't care less whether you use this product or not but mineral depletion is not something that will make or break your grow and trucking in rock that is potentially harmful to your plants in an acidic soil from half way across the country seems unneeded and wasteful.
What a clever spin on words they did with their answer......
"When pH drops below 5.5, aluminosilicate clays and aluminium hydroxide minerals begin to dissolve, releasing aluminium-hydroxy cations and A l ( H 2 O )6 3 + (A l3 +), that then exchange with other cations. On that conditions, A l3 + also forms the mononuclear species A l O H2 +, A l ( O H )2+, Al(OH)3, and Al(OH)4 [3]. The mononuclear A l3 +species and Al13 are considered as the most toxic forms [4, 5]."
https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jb/2012/219462/
I really couldn't care less whether you use this product or not but mineral depletion is not something that will make or break your grow and trucking in rock that is potentially harmful to your plants in an acidic soil from half way across the country seems unneeded and wasteful.
backtracker
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What are you going to grow in -5.5 soil besides blueberries. I don't use it but I do care about disinformation and hyper bull. Pot grows in a slightly acidic soil so all your fancy numbers don't mean squat. A new book out called Teaming With Minerals check it out.
NaturalFarmer
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You do? Really? All I have heard from your three posts is regurgitated and uninformed cut and pastes with misinformation. 3 for 3....Yeah you care a bunch.
Teaming with minerals?????/ Come on bro..
Microbes? Nutrients???/Fungi???
NaturalFarmer
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So you went from.....It can only be smelted.....to blueberries.
What is the PH of fulvic acid?
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natureboygrower
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you're not going to get it much cleaner then from maine waters.considering I doubt they're harvesting around cities.portland,bangor (not possible ) etc
NaturalFarmer
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North Atlantic kelp has the highest concentrations of cytokonins (plant growth regulators).
NaturalFarmer
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Fair enough although it is closer to Fukishima than Nova Scotia is so that may not be true anymore. Once again food grade.....I am guessing that kelp sold as soil food doesn't even measure Al and that number wouldn't even show up on a guaranteed analysis.
greasemonkeymann
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don't worry about backtracker, he's proven himself, publicly, to be less than intelligent...
azomite isn't a good mineral for us that like to use compost and reuse our soil, the ph can very easily get to 5.5 when composting, reamending, adding teas, etc.
like rastaroy said, basalt, greensand, langbeinite, etc are better for minerals
I don't like azomite, and granite dust (radioactive?!)
In reality if you are using a good compost, comfrey, kelp and such the minerals are basicly already there
greasemonkeymann
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fresh aloe, and sprouted seed teas are badass for that too
cocowater
backtracker
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Why are you such a ass hole? Every time you say something you act like you are the expert and only you know what to do or how to do it, any information/facts that aren't to your liking you attack the poster with personal insults. What a fucking loser.
backtracker
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The north Atlantic current goes north up the coast and by the time it gets to Main it has picked up all the pollution from the cities like NYC and Boston.