Batmix soil and Alga Bloom, add also Green sensation?

g00sec00re

New Member
Greetings everyone!

I'd like to ask for an advice more experienced growers.
I have my plants in Plagron Batmix soil. Im interested in only 100% organic grow. My tamatos are in first week of flowering and they look very good.
I bought Alga Bloom for later weeks, when my plants will need some food.
Is it worth to add also Green sensation for later weeks? Or just Batmix with Alga Bloom would be enough?

Thanks for suggestions.
 

g00sec00re

New Member
Thanks for the link, but it doesn't answer my question.
I know batmix has enough nuts for 4-6 weeks. After this time I was instructed to add Alga Bloom for the rest weeks.
My question is whether I can add Green Sensation together with Alga Bloom, I don't want to burn my plants. Plagron leaflet says I can, but this is a producer and I wanted to learn something about it from you.
Additionaly, I read GS gives special taste for plants. The same I heard about bat guano which is in batmix. I wonder whether mixing all this three product is a good idea for yield, taste, smell, and quality.
 

Wilderb

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What are the nutrient values given for each? I am not familiar with them. I can't see why you would need both? Be very suspect about all the hype.
And I would wait till your plants start to need it. If you have a good micro heard, you may not.
When you say you want to go organic, do you mean using organic nutes?

If you add just a few amendments, you won't need them.
I start with a basic organic soil, EWC, amend with a few things, and just water all the way through. Actually my blumats do the watering.
I don't use any nutrients other than what I add to my soil.
The thing to remember is simple is good. You can't force a plant to take up nutes. Keep your soil happy and it will feed you plants just fine.

REMEMBER the only one thing that can "instruct" you on what your plant needs is your plants.
 

Richard Drysift

Well-Known Member
Nanananananananaa....bat-mix!!!
Sorry had to be done; anyway it says on their site that the alga bloom is organic but the green sensation doesn't appear to be. That means the alga stuff is safe for organic soil and won't harm the microlife whereas the green sensation crap is a proprietary blend of who knows what kinds of "additives."
I agree with going mostly just water only and the occasional AACT to keep the microbial party rocking but then again you gotta start somewhere. I would amend your mix with compost preferably worm castings and maybe some perlite if that makes it too heavy & go from there. See how it goes before you add anything and use a non chlorinated water source. You may still need to use what you've got for now if plants become pale but just know it's not truly organic unless grown without any nutes at all.
 

g00sec00re

New Member
What are the nutrient values given for each?
NPK (6%-12%-10%) amino acids, etc.

I can't see why you would need both? Be very suspect about all the hype.
Yea, I dont need them both, just realised it.
By saying organic grow I meant using batmix soil and organic nutes if needed.

alga bloom is organic but the green sensation doesn't appear to be
Thanks for a point, I didn't notice GS is not organic! I'll not use it in my "organic" grow.

You are right guys, first I have to look at my plants, they grow perfectly so I need nothing atm. When I see my plants need some food I will only add Alga bloom. Dont have compost and worm castings. This is my first grow.
I thought organic grow is also when all nutrients are just organic. I have to read more about stricte organic grow though :)
 

Wilderb

Well-Known Member
NPK (6%-12%-10%) amino acids, etc.



Yea, I dont need them both, just realised it.
By saying organic grow I meant using batmix soil and organic nutes if needed.


Thanks for a point, I didn't notice GS is not organic! I'll not use it in my "organic" grow.

You are right guys, first I have to look at my plants, they grow perfectly so I need nothing atm. When I see my plants need some food I will only add Alga bloom. Dont have compost and worm castings. This is my first grow.
I thought organic grow is also when all nutrients are just organic. I have to read more about stricte organic grow though :)
Worm castings is one of the most essential IMO. You can easily pick some up and just top dress. Get store bought or look on your local craigslist.
Start with a good base and add a few things. No need to go crazy.
Good Luck!
WE
 

Richard Drysift

Well-Known Member
NPK (6%-12%-10%) amino acids, etc.

Yea, I dont need them both, just realised it.
By saying organic grow I meant using batmix soil and organic nutes if needed.


Thanks for a point, I didn't notice GS is not organic! I'll not use it in my "organic" grow.

You are right guys, first I have to look at my plants, they grow perfectly so I need nothing atm. When I see my plants need some food I will only add Alga bloom. Dont have compost and worm castings. This is my first grow.
I thought organic grow is also when all nutrients are just organic. I have to read more about stricte organic grow though :)
There is such a thing as soup style organics but that's still force feeding them just without synthetic chelates. Nothing wrong with that it's just natural soil makes bud that is representative of its strain characteristics with no outside flavors or chemicals that need flushing out.
There is a lot of stuff you can add that's is safe for natural organic soil that will help get them through to harvest. Liquid fish fertilizer is excellent;I like neptunes harvest. Just don't want to give it too late into bloom phase as it can piss off a fungal dominated container if fed heavy; water only after week 6. Big bloom is another organic nutrient but all these do more for feeding the microherd than the plants themselves which will make the NPK and macros in the soil available to your plants. Treat soil as it is a living thing and your plants will take care of themselves. Always look for the OMRI label and you know it will be ok for your microherd. FIsh fert and BB bubbled with molasses, worm castings, and kelp meal makes for an awesome AACT.
Acquiring a source of compost is important and the sooner the better but you can wait until after a harvest to recycle your soil and then add in EWC and amendments. I think you'll need a bit more than just the one bottle of alga stuff you hit on hand. Starting a worm bin is the best way to get fresh EWC; like getting nutrients from your kitchen trash. If you add EWC and recycle your soil after a few cycles it will begin to break down what you added in and this takes some time but after awhile your mix will become a supernatural "super-soil" and you'll see you won't need to add much at all except water.
 
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