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Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by GrandfatherRat, Jan 9, 2017.

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    GrandfatherRat

    GrandfatherRat Active Member

    I think I am going to have to get a batch for comparison purposes, and have a friend grow it out in their garden to avoid confusions.
     
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    GrandfatherRat

    GrandfatherRat Active Member

    Wow, this is just too easy not to give it a try. We have so many seeds...
    That's a good strain name! Or-- Strocats Strut. I haven't even considered it, but if we do get some plants with good genes, we will almost certainly have to name a new strain. If we get into this and find we've opened Pandora's Box, I will likely have to reach out to a local expert breeder.
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    WRONG! soaking can work, many do it wrong, with the wrong water(s)! The big thing today is that many big name seed breeders are now telling you NOT to pre-soak seeds,,,,,THEY DROWN easily!

    Do NOT use distilled water or water that has been left out to get rid of chlorine - etc. No bottled waters!
    WHY?
    They lack the dissolved oxygen needed to pop that seed! The seed needs that o2 to properly keep going after the seed even cracks!

    You can add a few drops of H2o2 but, it actually dissipates quickly......Skip soaking and try other methods!

    I support the gibberellic acid method for OLD SEEDS!
     
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    GrandfatherRat

    GrandfatherRat Active Member

    Man, I'm sorry that happened to him. The fallout from murder goes deep into the family of victims. I hope you all are able to find some peace.
     
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    GrandfatherRat

    GrandfatherRat Active Member

    Thank you to all for some really helpful replies.

    Great suggestion! I'm a forum noob, so this is just the project to get me involved. Also a journal would be a good record keeping exercise. I will need to figure out an easy way to get photos posted and keep up with progress writeups...
     
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    Bareback

    Bareback Well-Known Member

    I read on another thread just like a week ago, about lining a match box with 150 grit and shaking for a full minute. I think the scoures help asorbe water
     
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    LandAndHeir

    LandAndHeir Well-Known Member

    Whichever germination method you choose I wish you the best in this adventure! Pop as many of those 1000 as you can!
     
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    Dr. Who

    Dr. Who Well-Known Member

    Not bad info at all! Some strains have seeds that have rather thick seed hulls. So think that they don't pop well! This helps some of those out.
    There are a cpl of strains that it's even better to carefully take a sandpaper nail file and scratch the seam of the seed it's self - all the way around!
     
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    Moldy

    Moldy Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I remember when 10 or 20 bucks would buy a lid of A. Gold but in the late 60's the Red was floating around and all of sudden they wanted 30 bucks. After that I didn't search for weed that much since acid was really good back then.
     
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    meangreengrowinmachine

    meangreengrowinmachine Well-Known Member

    Soaking FOR SURE works ... with ALL seeds I have done many side by sides in my outside gardens and germination rates are much better and faster.. the seeds I most recently popped, we're opening after only 24 in my well water (no chlorine here) one day in the moist paper towels after that and they were 100% ready! I will always soak my seeds
     
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    Bareback

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    I want to way in on soaking and paper towels, for me I've had bad experience with both ( my fuck ups I'm sure ) so I like rapid rooters in a humidity dome . With my t5 .

    I'm sure my problem was cold temps and moisture control ( too much or too little ) and not enough attention being paid to it . But I get great germ rates with the RR and HD with a little kelp water in the bottom of the tray
     
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    natureboygrower

    natureboygrower Well-Known Member

    yes,first place I saw this method was in Cervantes "grow bible" I don't do it with fresher seeds but I think in ops case,this is the time to try it.
     
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    GrandfatherRat

    GrandfatherRat Active Member

    Thanks to all for some great info!
    It looks like I will need to have at least a half a dozen or more test groups just to get down the basic variables that will impact the germination rates. I really don't want to waste any seeds, so I'm going to proceed with caution. First off will probably be a small control group with tap water / paper towels / heat mat.

    I understand there is now a test which can profile some gene markers in cannabis seeds, which can pinpoint a landrace strain-- but it's a destructive test which kills the seed. We don't know what seeds in this stash are from the same plants, and the tests run about 450$ per batch of 4, so it looks like we will have to do this the old fashioned way. I am confident we will get some germinations, and hopefully some females. Any males we get will also be cloned and saved for possible future breeding experiments. Once we have actual plants, we can take samples and have tests run for prime gene markers. From my friend's description of what he was smoking at the time, I am expecting a lot of landrace sativas in the batch, plus who knows what else.

    I will probably start up a new grow journal post, as Meangreengrowmachine suggested. I still need to sort and count the stash into batches. I will post some more photos and info when I'm underway.
     
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    kkt3

    kkt3 Well-Known Member

    That is so cool!! I was down at my Mom and Dads last year looking for a vitamin container that I had which was filled with Columbian Gold seeds from the late 70's. We used to buy an ounce for $80 back then. Took all the seeds, which we called popcorn, out before we rolled up doobies. Otherwise you would get an exploding joint. No luck with the find though. Good luck!!!
     
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    GrandfatherRat

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    I have started a grow journal to document this journey; it's open to comment. I will continue this thread for additional discussion and updates. The first update is that I just finished the first sort and count; looks like my first estimate was close; I have 989 seeds.

    http://www.rollitup.org/Journal/grandfatherrat.950704/
     
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    Bareback

    Bareback Well-Known Member

    It won't let me view your journal
     
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    Budget Buds

    Budget Buds Well-Known Member

    I think you need to re-read my post , I absolutely agree with everything you said. Soil is the way to go, That being said when I soak a seed in a glass of water I use carbonated water , Even then the risk of drowning is greater. the natural way of doing it is the real way to go. Nature knows her shit :) BB
     
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    GrandfatherRat

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    Hmmm... thought I had enabled comment and such-- I will check settings and make sure I posted it in the correct place and set for public view.
     
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