Best Non-Hallucinogen legal highs?

I was wondering what products are available as legal narcotic substitutes that aren't crap. I have tried alot of the wild lettuce and kava based legals and been very dissapointed. Has anyone ever tried "Kratom Gold? How was it if so?
And of all the non-hallucinogen legals out there which is in your opinion the most effective?
Thanks

tried kratom from iamshaman.com was basicly like taking a sleeping pill and sitting around, just made me tired

many people like salvia. it legal. wut wrong wit a visionary trip? neva tried halluc.'s tho.

BigGuyinRI said:

I was wondering what products are available as legal narcotic substitutes that aren't crap. I have tried alot of the wild lettuce and kava based legals and been very dissapointed. Has anyone ever tried "Kratom Gold? How was it if so?
And of all the non-hallucinogen legals out there which is in your opinion the most effective?
Thanks

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You should order some sinicuichi and Kratom foliage. I wouldn't buy any super kratom or kratom gold, I would eather buy an extract or the regular leaves.

I find Kratom to be very energetic, almost like consuming a few percocet 10's and a bump of cocaine. You might get sick your first few times though, but I think it feels more like your receptors are being flooded with seritonin, making you hurl.

As for the sinicuichi, you could buy an extract and eat it, or buy the leaves and make tea from them. I always feel real mellow or sedated when consuming an extract or the tea.

"Quat" or "kat" can be fun-legality varies

I just found out that you can get wasted on certain kinds of daisies

If they are prepared properly you can get a sedative narcotic coke style buzz.

If you chew the roots and keep them in your mouth apparently you hallucinate.
I have little info on this so far and don't know how to prepare it or the amounts to use or anything much really.

lol, well, I'd like to call some attention to tylenol. that'll fuck you up if you take 15-20, but you gotta have the gut for it. besides that, it's hell on yer liver. try it before you die, but only once.

ya know what sucks.. i can't really roll a (good) joint
gonna learn next months tho, goin on a tripppp

It's funny the thing under your name says "able to roll a joint" and you just said that..

you gotta try some jenkens aka butt hash. "shits" da bomb

aattocchi said:

As for the sinicuichi, you could buy an extract and eat it, or buy the leaves and make tea from them. I always feel real mellow or sedated when consuming an extract or the tea.

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Actualy you make more of a beer out of it. You have to rehydrate the leaves with water. Then, sprinkle sugar over the rehydrated leaves. Put the leaves inside a mason jar and put it into the sun for a day or two. Not to sure if it'll work with rehydrated leaves, I always use fresh leaves.

If you try to make a tea out of it you will only end up with toxins.

Rubber Cement?