Boxed Wine Cabinet and Cabrenet

SSGrower

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Yeah the mother I've been running for about a year gets those leaves and I noticed I have one seedling of the BR x BP coming up similar to yours with all of the leaves (only 2 nodes so far) coming in twisted and 1/2 yelow/1/2 green. On my clone it doesn't seem to affect growth at all, nor potency for that matter. It's just weird looking. Some of those bright coloured leaves also have an edge that twists in. You can see it on yours in the middle plant about 3rd node down on the left.

Interested to hear how those different woods affect smell or flavour.
Spanish Cedar (bottom)
African Mahogany (top)
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The lids can slide in or rest on top to give a little air gap if needed, these have been hanging for a few days I'll close them up and check later tonight.1520289418248-1670293417.jpg
Made them identical so if the spanis cedar is good but too much I can use its lid with the Mahogany box. Cheated a bit by nailing, was going to dovetail, will do that on another one if this works. The pine box did impart a bit of pineyness, nothing bad, just not what I'm going for.
 

GroErr

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Spanish Cedar (bottom)
African Mahogany (top)
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The lids can slide in or rest on top to give a little air gap if needed, these have been hanging for a few days I'll close them up and check later tonight.View attachment 4100665
Made them identical so if the spanis cedar is good but too much I can use its lid with the Mahogany box. Cheated a bit by nailing, was going to dovetail, will do that on another one if this works. The pine box did impart a bit of pineyness, nothing bad, just not what I'm going for.
Very nice, looks great. Lol, pine is one of the few things that comes through on a lot of strains, no need to add any ;)
 

SSGrower

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The Mahogany box is winning out for both a moisture managment and having a pretty neutral smell.
After having them in for a day I realized it would be good to have sterilized them with a camden or bisulphite solution, this also helped condition the wood because it was drawing the moisture out too quickly. Pretty confident I am going to build a real full on humidor cabinet for curing and storage. Probably a mostly acrylic cabinet with wood storage boxes and drying trays.

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The box lids got very tight the first day because the extreme moisture differential from inside to outside the boxes, this is why I want an acrylic ot other mostly sealed cabinet to be maintained at 50-70 rh depending on need. Right now they are wrapped in a bag to slow the process.
 

SSGrower

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Yeah the mother I've been running for about a year gets those leaves and I noticed I have one seedling of the BR x BP coming up similar to yours with all of the leaves (only 2 nodes so far) coming in twisted and 1/2 yelow/1/2 green. On my clone it doesn't seem to affect growth at all, nor potency for that matter. It's just weird looking. Some of those bright coloured leaves also have an edge that twists in. You can see it on yours in the middle plant about 3rd node down on the left.

Interested to hear how those different woods affect smell or flavour.
Struck Out. Started too wet for the lack of airflow.
Was opening daily in 30 min leaves would start crisping up. It'd be easier to dedicate a room and cure pounds, anyway, almost didn't check them yesterday but when I did. White fuzz. Pulled affected flowers, about 1/2 of a main cola and a few ancillaries of the seeded MT. Seeded braches didn't seem affected but pulled all of it and the unseded one from the affected box.
Lost about a 1/4 to 1/2 oz, good thing I didnt sleep on it cause would have been about now or later today before I opened them up, could have lost the whole box.
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Lower extent on the stem. Spanish Cedar is used in cigar boxes for both its pest (tobacco beetle) and fungal resistance, unfortunately it gives a cigar like quality to bud. Imagine the smell of cigar shop, if you like it and like cigars go for Spanish Cedar components of a drying and curing system.

I really wanted an automatic method of drying and curing, going to have to come up with an automated system instead.
 

GroErr

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Twins MTxBR
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Thought I saw something extra poking out when it went from the paper towel to soil.


The BRxPL bx1 chuck 4 of 4 have an interisting vien formation on the first blades
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Like it wanted to shoot a 3 blade leaf right off the bat.
Hey you're like the mutant king - lol I've grabbed one twin from the BR and someone else running some testers got one a while back. I'd be guessing 1 in 200 or so are popping up. In another line I was working and dropped now I got a twin male and twin female, crossed them both but never got any twin offspring.

Cool pattern on those leaf blades, will be interesting to see if that continues on as you get more nodes.
 

SSGrower

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Hey you're like the mutant king - lol I've grabbed one twin from the BR and someone else running some testers got one a while back. I'd be guessing 1 in 200 or so are popping up. In another line I was working and dropped now I got a twin male and twin female, crossed them both but never got any twin offspring.

Cool pattern on those leaf blades, will be interesting to see if that continues on as you get more nodes.
Idk, guess I'd take the title if it were given, just like Im not gonna make a title for myself based on my current growing history! I think I can see why a little bit of cool was such an issue for them given they were probably fighting pH imbalance and low RH, the mite issue early on...
It might be coming from the mtn. Thunder side too, who knows? Personally I'm fixing to place blame on cannabis queen shortly.
 

GroErr

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Idk, guess I'd take the title if it were given, just like Im not gonna make a title for myself based on my current growing history! I think I can see why a little bit of cool was such an issue for them given they were probably fighting pH imbalance and low RH, the mite issue early on...
It might be coming from the mtn. Thunder side too, who knows? Personally I'm fixing to place blame on cannabis queen shortly.
Lol, yeah forgot @Cannabis.Queen has a twin mutant going in the party cup contest :)
 

Cannabis.Queen

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Idk, guess I'd take the title if it were given, just like Im not gonna make a title for myself based on my current growing history! I think I can see why a little bit of cool was such an issue for them given they were probably fighting pH imbalance and low RH, the mite issue early on...
It might be coming from the mtn. Thunder side too, who knows? Personally I'm fixing to place blame on cannabis queen shortly.
You can take the title I like mine, lungs lol

I have grown a lot of mutant plants but given them all a chance lmfao
 

SSGrower

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You can take the title I like mine, lungs lol

I have grown a lot of mutant plants but given them all a chance lmfao
Lol, yeah forgot @Cannabis.Queen has a twin mutant going in the party cup contest :)
I am pretty convinced it was a fraternal or identical twin amd not a siamese so I decided to pull it, a decent root structure for the size came with it, its surviving, smallest sprout I've ever seen. It will probably be 2-3 weeks behind the other.
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Almost 2 weeks from germ.

Had a wrong way Charlie, I need to go back to being more careful when placing from germ.
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Saw the tap root pop up turn a little green. There was a lot of extra material when I dug in amd flipped it over. IDK if irs possible it may have been twin too.

Verrigato is giving me fits sexing too, hard to tell white from light yellow but I think it's a boy.
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They have recoverd some from my malfeasance. 3 girls, 1 may ge culled.
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Trying to get the br to spread a little more before letting it go up. Roots of some are poking out bottom already so won't procrastinate transplanting again.

Salubongsmilie
 

GroErr

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I am pretty convinced it was a fraternal or identical twin amd not a siamese so I decided to pull it, a decent root structure for the size came with it, its surviving, smallest sprout I've ever seen. It will probably be 2-3 weeks behind the other.
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Almost 2 weeks from germ.

Had a wrong way Charlie, I need to go back to being more careful when placing from germ.
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Saw the tap root pop up turn a little green. There was a lot of extra material when I dug in amd flipped it over. IDK if irs possible it may have been twin too.

Verrigato is giving me fits sexing too, hard to tell white from light yellow but I think it's a boy.
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They have recoverd some from my malfeasance. 3 girls, 1 may ge culled.
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Trying to get the br to spread a little more before letting it go up. Roots of some are poking out bottom already so won't procrastinate transplanting again.

Salubongsmilie
Nice, 2-for-1 on the twins, looks like the smaller one may go. Can't tell on that Verrigato, can't see much, some are pita trying to get them sexed. Have 18x 1gal's still going and none have sexed yet coming up to week 5, pretty sure about 12-13 are females but no definite showing of hairs yet. Hoping to sex and up-pot the fems this weekend, we'll see. Have a few stinkers in the bunch though :)
 

SSGrower

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Was wrong before about age of twin, It's now just 1.5 weeks. (Twin top, wrong way cHarlin bottom)
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The other twin
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An unknown random sprout, it was underneath the br reveg clone. The cabinet was where I kept males, but maybe this is the lost mtn ripper idk.
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The brxpl BX. Holey sawtooth batman
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Veritago was a male but 1 female brxbps has a slight bit of it
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Will probably end up culling 1 of the 3 brxbps females, expected ratio for the brxbps 6 female 3 male.
 

SSGrower

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Got up potted to final pots for the br and brxbp earlier this week. The 4 brxpl have not sexed yet, will up pot next week, Sunday begins week transition.
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Twin and wrong way are chugging along slowly. The other 2 MTxBR are looking ok at 3 weeks.20180404_112903.jpg
Lost the 2 br clones in rockwool, let them dry out on accident.:wall: Having better luck just taking a cut and placing it in the shadow of another plant, then transplanting once rooted.
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I think the mystery sprout is a brxpl based on the 1st blade leaf formation and super sawtooth serratons.
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GroErr

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Lots of stuff going and looking good in there. Hope you had some backup for the BR clones :(

The br and brxbp plants in their final pots are looking great. Looks like most of the leaf mutations have grown out of the one. The BR's look much like the batch I just ran, structure is very consistent in those BX1's. I have 4x 2gal I just flipped and other than smell, it's hard to tell them apart, they look like clones. One more back cross should do it, have 2x contender females out of the 4 I just flipped, both have the skunk piss smell in veg. If they turn out to be fire phenos, they will be crossed with the BX1 male for final BX2's :mrgreen:
 

SSGrower

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Lots of stuff going and looking good in there. Hope you had some backup for the BR clones :(

The br and brxbp plants in their final pots are looking great. Looks like most of the leaf mutations have grown out of the one. The BR's look much like the batch I just ran, structure is very consistent in those BX1's. I have 4x 2gal I just flipped and other than smell, it's hard to tell them apart, they look like clones. One more back cross should do it, have 2x contender females out of the 4 I just flipped, both have the skunk piss smell in veg. If they turn out to be fire phenos, they will be crossed with the BX1 male for final BX2's :mrgreen:
The mutated brxbp is generating a funk all it's own. Those were the BR bx1 skunk puss Male right?

And yeah, backups a plenty.
 

GroErr

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The mutated brxbp is generating a funk all it's own. Those were the BR bx1 skunk puss Male right?

And yeah, backups a plenty.
Yeah one of the brxbp I have going is skunky in it's own right (same seeds/batch you ran). I'm hoping the cross I'm waiting to finish with the BX1 rks male produces more reliable beans and juggles the alleles a bit. Will run some of those as soon as they're ready in about 5 weeks or so and see if this one I have going is worth bothering with once I flower it.

I had to look back to see which version you had. The BR BX1's you have are F2 female back-crossed to the original F1 male, it was also a skunk piss pheno, just not as strong as the current BX1 rks male. I'm waiting to find a really nice BX1 female to cross with that BX1 rks male, that should do it, they're already quite stable from a consistency angle. Good chance that 2 of the 4 females I just flipped will be the contender for the BX2 cross, both have the rks smell in veg, one is super-loud. Once I find that worthy female, I'll take a clone and open pollinate it to share the rks x rks BR BX2's.

Good to hear on the backup's, hate losing a decent pheno!
 

SSGrower

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Yeah one of the brxbp I have going is skunky in it's own right (same seeds/batch you ran). I'm hoping the cross I'm waiting to finish with the BX1 rks male produces more reliable beans and juggles the alleles a bit. Will run some of those as soon as they're ready in about 5 weeks or so and see if this one I have going is worth bothering with once I flower it.

I had to look back to see which version you had. The BR BX1's you have are F2 female back-crossed to the original F1 male, it was also a skunk piss pheno, just not as strong as the current BX1 rks male. I'm waiting to find a really nice BX1 female to cross with that BX1 rks male, that should do it, they're already quite stable from a consistency angle. Good chance that 2 of the 4 females I just flipped will be the contender for the BX2 cross, both have the rks smell in veg, one is super-loud. Once I find that worthy female, I'll take a clone and open pollinate it to share the rks x rks BR BX2's.

Good to hear on the backup's, hate losing a decent pheno!
That makes alot clearer picture as to what I have seen the best BR female of the 3 ive had so far was my br #1 of 2. The female from this run is good, perhaps the clone will be better if I can let it run to completion. The closest smell since the br #1 was the male I hit the mtn. Thunder with. I probably won't be able to flower the 4 offspring until late summer, and may end up sexing and cloning.
 

SSGrower

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Decided to go to a 7 day transition instead of 14 and ending at 12/12 instead of 13/11. That starts tonight after a 70 day veg for 4.5 gals and about 40 for the 1.5 gals. A couple of the brxpl (1.5 gals) look male.
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Of the brxbp that made it past sprout phase 5 of 8 were female
 

SSGrower

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Seems I only think about taking pics at lights out recently.
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2 of the 4 brxpl are female 1 male, probably 2 but waiting for confirmation.
Due to lack of space trying to single cola them.
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Trying expanded shale as a mulch on the final pots. I think I like it, hopefully it will be relatively easy to recove and reuse.
 

GroErr

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Looking good, nice ratio on those BRxBP, looks like I ended up with 1 female out of 4 testers, waiting for one to show me something but looking like a male too. The one female I did get is looking awesome though, quite different from the other 3 males, much nicer structure and fast growth compared to the others, also showing me some purple hair ends, could be a purple pheno :)

Have 5x Blue Ripper BX1, 4x Columbian Ripper F1's, and the one BR x BP F1 in there, all in 2gal pots other than the bottom left corner that's any Skunk #1 finishing up. Will spread them out a bit in the next day or so when the SK1 finishes.

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New batch got finally up-potted to 1gal's from cups. These are 8x Dream Ripper (Blue Ripper x Blue Dream) BX1's and 4x Blue Ripper x Fireballs. Have another 7x Blue Harley babies to up-pot to 1gal's in the seedling tent :)

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