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Bridgelux EB Series Build

Discussion in 'LED and other Lighting' started by brahbbyB, Dec 5, 2016.

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    brahbbyB

    brahbbyB Member

    First off, thanks to everyone posting on here. Learned alot with the guides and other info you people have thrown up here.

    I am looking for the best bang/buck for a small 3x3 or 4x4 setup and was looking for some feedback.

    I was wondering how cheap/efficient I could make a board with individual Surface Mount LED's, as I saw quite a few Al based PCB's for sale cheap but then I came across the Bridgelux EB Series:
    eb series adjust for web products page v1.4_0.jpg

    http://www.bridgelux.com/products/eb-series#features

    http://www.bridgelux.com/sites/default/files/resource_media/DS130 EB Series Datasheet Rev A_0.pdf

    They come in ~1" wide strips in 10", 20" or 40". According to datasheet, designed to be used without a heatsink, but I could probably mount them to a thin sheet of aluminum for easy mounting hanging. They also already have power connections attached.
     
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    brahbbyB

    brahbbyB Member

    I also ran a quick comparison against a cxb3590 at similar lumen/watt and the come in about 33% more cost effective:
    update EB vs 3950.png
    * Slight edit, will add Citizen 1212's tomorrow
     
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    brahbbyB

    brahbbyB Member

    Additionally, I was wondering would 4000k be the value to to use? They don't have a spectrum chart posted yet for the 3500k yet:
    EB Series Color Spectrum.png

    and would it be worth boosting the deeper reds similar to the Cree reference design?
     
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    Abiqua

    Abiqua Well-Known Member

    Those graph labels have me all fucked up...isn't there a discrepancy of 80 watts or so between the two comparisons.......but I can't be sure because the charts aren't completely congruent.....
     
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    brahbbyB

    brahbbyB Member

    Sorry about that, I will clean it up a bit. Was just grabbing similar values off the datasheets to make a comparison. I also need to throw some citizen 1212's in there as well. Just looking for discussion on a small setup like a 3x3 or 4x4, of the benefits of a 1. Larger spread of lights 2. Similar lm/w efficiency. 3. Expensive heatsinks not required.
     
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    BuddyColas

    BuddyColas Well-Known Member

    They look very interesting, but digikey doesn't have any in stock and cutter doesn't either yet. Where are you planning on buying them?
     
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    BM9AGS

    BM9AGS Well-Known Member

    Be impressive if the numbers are correct!!
     
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    goofy81

    goofy81 Well-Known Member

    So these don't require a heatsink even at 1000-1400ma?
    Be great for side/wall lights ! take my money!
     
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    BuddyColas

    BuddyColas Well-Known Member

    I may have missed that. Where did you get that piece of information?
     
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    CobKits

    CobKits Well-Known Member Rollitup Advertiser

    i see youre using Tj of 25C for the cree which isnt realistic outside of water cooling

    also heads up posts arent editable forever
     
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    coolj

    coolj Well-Known Member

    so what drivers are you gonna use?
     
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    coolj

    coolj Well-Known Member

    these dont need a heatsink, A 4x8 sheet of plywood 96 of these is going to be built!!!!
     
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    welight

    welight Well-Known Member Rollitup Advertiser

    The 560mm are 15.5 watts, difficult to get rid of that in wood would definitely lay them on a bit of light flat Alu bar for a full nights sleep, even Led ribbon at 30w/metre, stuck on plywood does not last. They are saying no heatsink required but a light thermal bed I think is in order
    Cheers
    Mark
     
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    brahbbyB

    brahbbyB Member

    Added the 1212's, wasn't able to find any better numbers for CB3590s at a higher temp. The 1212 still look like they come out on top on these for the price.

    eb-cxb3590-1212.png

    I have inquired about the 3500k spectrum chart, but have not heard back yet.
     
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    brahbbyB

    brahbbyB Member

    I think I am going to move forward with these EB series, but in the 40" length and go with larger 4' wide tent. I am looking at about 9 of the 40" modules putting me around ~407W @ 1000ma.

    To drive them I was looking to use a bunch of the Mean Well LDD-1000H mounted on some 5UP PCB's.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ldd-1000H-5-channels-LED-driver-on-PCB-Board-/311516001741
    [​IMG]

    To power 2x of these PCB's, I'll see how cheap of a 500W+ 36/48V AC/DC Power Supply I can get. I've got an Arduino hanging around that I can use for the PWM input.
     
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    coolj

    coolj Well-Known Member

    where are you going to get the leds from?
     
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    welight

    welight Well-Known Member Rollitup Advertiser

    I would make sure you buy a version of this board that has the LDD Socketed rather than soldered ie
    [​IMG]
    that way you can mix and match drive currents or replace drivers etc
    http://www.cutter.com.au/proddetail.php?prod=cut1704
    Cheers
    Mark
     
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    Seriousbuds

    Seriousbuds Active Member

    Serious question: why would anyone buy or build a CXB3590 setup now? aside from the Cree branding and hope of a longer lifespan
     
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    Seriousbuds

    Seriousbuds Active Member

    Wow, this looks like the new easiest and most economic route to a flower tent..! Even if the 1212s are cheaper on paper, when you factor in all the extra stuff you might get for a 1212 setup like cob holders, lenses, reflectors, wago connecters etc and then add the 4-10 hours it would take for a beginner to make the 1212 light, you'd probably be close to saving a lot on this new bridgelux strip build. @brahbbyB can't wait to see your build complete!

    I bought 7 four foot long heatsinks for $100 off Craigslist, since these strips "don't require a heatsink" even at 1400ma I bet I can stack them up across these bars and have crazy coverage. I'm thinking about running at 700ma for maximum efficiency.. can someone tell me how many of these I'd need to be at at least 1000 PPFD? Wonder if it's even possible in a 40' square..
     
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    ThaiBaby1

    ThaiBaby1 Well-Known Member

    Like welight says, these will require a heatsink.
     
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