Broad mites

Bugeye

Well-Known Member
Possibly mite damage, but hard to say for sure. Would not hurt to treat for broad mites with Forbid 4F.
 

Sour Cooper

Member
Have not been able to get a strong enough magnifying glass. I saw a picture that looked like my plant and it was broad mites. I just don't know. Plant seems to growing and healthy.
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

Well-Known Member
forbid isn't registered for use on pot.
Then use:
1. Green Cleaner
2. Dr. Bronners Peppermint soap.
3. Ivory white dish soap
4. Canola oil with a drop of soap
5. Pepper Spray
6. Fels Naptha soap
7. Capt Jacks Dead Bug Brew aka spinosad
8. Safer soap with sulfur
9. If you are in veg get powdered Silica from MBF Fertilizer. Mix it good and do a spray. Powder silica will still have tiny shards that will cut the bugs up and also silca will mke your plant stronger. They have the cheapest silica powder I have seen.
http://www.mbferts.com/Agsil-16H-Potassium-Silicate-Soluble-Silica-Powder-545.htm

Google the internet for each with instructions on what to do. Work on it immediately - do not delay.

As far as I know - Forbid is just an acid and is relatively safe. Floramite is not safe.
 
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Dr. Who

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Can anyone please tell me it this is caused by broad mites and how to treat it?
not broadmite damage. that looks like a virus or deficiency
That is Variegation! Cell mutation!

Stole this from Wiki -

Variegation is the appearance of differently coloured zones in the leaves, and sometimes the stems, of plants. Variegated leaves occur rarely in nature.

Stole this from Hortmag

What causes variegation in plants?
Answer: Variation in leaf color arises because of a lack of the green pigment chlorophyll in some of the plant cells. It isn't an adaptation to the environment, but instead it is usually the result of a cell mutation, and can be inherited (genetic) or occur randomly (chimeric).
In nature these forms usually die out, being weaker growers because of the lack of chlorophyll, which plants use to make the food they need for growth.


What you have there is a variegated plant. While this looks like a viral infection (it can be). This is not. The damage to the lower leaves is a result of natural plant growth. The lack of Chlorophyll in leaf sections....Makes it easier for this to happen. ^ see the "weaker grower" part above..

The plant can finish out just fine.....It'l be fussier then a normal plant....Be attentive and patient. Or, ditch and restart.

I know a cpl of strains are prone to it....
 

Dr.Nick Riviera

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That is Variegation! Cell mutation!

Stole this from Wiki -

Variegation is the appearance of differently coloured zones in the leaves, and sometimes the stems, of plants. Variegated leaves occur rarely in nature.

Stole this from Hortmag

What causes variegation in plants?
Answer: Variation in leaf color arises because of a lack of the green pigment chlorophyll in some of the plant cells. It isn't an adaptation to the environment, but instead it is usually the result of a cell mutation, and can be inherited (genetic) or occur randomly (chimeric).
In nature these forms usually die out, being weaker growers because of the lack of chlorophyll, which plants use to make the food they need for growth.


What you have there is a variegated plant. While this looks like a viral infection (it can be). This is not. The damage to the lower leaves is a result of natural plant growth. The lack of Chlorophyll in leaf sections....Makes it easier for this to happen. ^ see the "weaker grower" part above..

The plant can finish out just fine.....It'l be fussier then a normal plant....Be attentive and patient. Or, ditch and restart.

I know a cpl of strains are prone to it....
had a king louie would do that a little, had broadmites too. that's why i know it wasn't them bastards
 

Sour Cooper

Member
That is Variegation! Cell mutation!

Stole this from Wiki -

Variegation is the appearance of differently coloured zones in the leaves, and sometimes the stems, of plants. Variegated leaves occur rarely in nature.

Stole this from Hortmag

What causes variegation in plants?
Answer: Variation in leaf color arises because of a lack of the green pigment chlorophyll in some of the plant cells. It isn't an adaptation to the environment, but instead it is usually the result of a cell mutation, and can be inherited (genetic) or occur randomly (chimeric).
In nature these forms usually die out, being weaker growers because of the lack of chlorophyll, which plants use to make the food they need for growth.


What you have there is a variegated plant. While this looks like a viral infection (it can be). This is not. The damage to the lower leaves is a result of natural plant growth. The lack of Chlorophyll in leaf sections....Makes it easier for this to happen. ^ see the "weaker grower" part above..

The plant can finish out just fine.....It'l be fussier then a normal plant....Be attentive and patient. Or, ditch and restart.

I know a cpl of strains are prone to it....
OK thank you for your time and advice.
 

Sour Cooper

Member
I wanted to thank all of you who took the time to share what they know..
this turns out to be a confusing problem there are a lot of different thoughts
on what it could be.

Thank you!!!!!!
 

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
OK thank you for your time and advice.
No problem!

It happens sometimes. I've had a package of beans all do that. Cpl of years later I decided to run that strain again - same breeder...Didn't do it this time....(beans from a different mother)..

They actually look kinda cool as you run them. just be attentive of them and she'll be fine...
 

Wetdog

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not broadmite damage. that looks like a virus or deficiency
I've had broadmites and agree, that is not broadmite damage.

Also, Forbid is far from 'just an acid' and anything that that only requires drops/gallon to work is far from 'relatively safe'. It is also about the only thing that does the job.

I did used to be a certified applicator and know somewhat I'm talking about.
 

MMJ Dreaming 99

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Anyone here ever foliar spray with chleted iron? Supposedly good if the leaves have a little yellowing. It seems to be cheap. I am not sure if spraying with kelp is better.
 

backtracker

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But it works! About the only thing that will hit Broads and Russets....
'so does dynamite: ) it's for use on ornamentals it is systemic so you will be smoking or eating , not me. They test pot now so if someone is supplying a shop it would be a real drag to get your stuff rejected. This is what's registered for use on pot in WA. http://www.evergreengrowers.com/broad-mite-control.html . This stuff is new http://www.dazeys.com/trifecta/pest-mold-prevention/trifecta-crop-control-1-gallon.html I have some haven't needed it yet hope I don't need to either..
 
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Dr. Who

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'so does dynamite: ) it's for use on ornamentals it is systemic so you will be smoking or eating , not me. They test pot now so if someone is supplying a shop it would be a real drag to get your stuff rejected. This is what's registered for use on pot in WA. http://www.evergreengrowers.com/broad-mite-control.html . This stuff is new http://www.dazeys.com/trifecta/pest-mold-prevention/trifecta-crop-control-1-gallon.html I have some haven't needed it yet hope I don't need to either..
It is NOT systemic!
Please research insecticide by toxicity reports and by researching the base chemical.
In this case it is an organic acid. It is easier to produce in the lab by synthesis then to refine by nature. That and the binders used in the concentrate make it non-organic by trade definition.

It is translaminar. Which means it is applied lightly to leaf surfaces and it travels to the bottom of the leaf. Right where mites feed. It is one of the only effective treatments for Russet and Broad mites...It's effective life is 18 days or less.

If you get mites and everything else fails or they keep coming back (you need to sanitize the grow between runs). Forbid 4F works. 1 shot - boom done. It is simply put. The most effective miticide I have ever had the displeasure of having to use.

Knocking wood - I have not had mites (or any other pest beyond fungus gnats from FFOF) in over 7 years now and hope to remain that way. Stay clean! Clean often!

As for the "trifecta" shit - it contains "Essential oils used to manufacture Trifecta Crop Control"
I will never put any "oil" on my plants! I like smoking plant, not thyme, or cinnamon, or neem or, or, or! You have nop Idea how many sellers I sent packing due to the detectable odors of these oils. They used them in late bloom - you knew when you smelled them that you don't buy, due to the "whatever" problem they were trying to treat..
 
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