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Brothers and sisters, please help me diagnose (pics)

Discussion in 'Marijuana Plant Problems' started by robot1488, Apr 20, 2017.

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    robot1488

    robot1488 Active Member

    - indoor
    - water about every day an a half
    - soil - ocean forest
    - Mother plant.
    - 100w cfl.

    I use nutrients every other watering, but not always. I went almost a week with just water, because I wasn't sure if I was giving the moms to much nutrients for the amount of light its under.
     

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    Bugeye

    Bugeye Well-Known Member

    Not an underfed look, maybe lockout of some variety.
     
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    Los Reefersaurus

    Los Reefersaurus Well-Known Member

    Over watered, or too little N are my edu-mucated guesses. Check the weight of the pot and go from there. Over watering will cause some deficiency and cause drooppy leaves. An N deficiency the leaves go yellow starting from the bottom..... also more MAg
     
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    Chef420

    Chef420 Well-Known Member

    From your description it sounds like over watered. Please post some pictures of the entire plant.
    How do you water exactly? Do you lift the pots?
     
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    robot1488

    robot1488 Active Member

    Thanks for the replies guys.

    See, the plant droops heavily. Then I water with a pressurized pump sprayer - either with nutrients or just water and the plant perks up again. I water till I see runoff and water just a little longer after that, since I read salt can build up if you don't. The weight is heavy after I water, then the next day its much lighter.

    I assumed its was nitrogen too, but after I have feed the plants again with grow big a few more times within a week - nothing has changed.

    If I go more than 2 days without watering the plants droops and always pick up again after I water.

    I'll post more pics in a bit.
     
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    robot1488

    robot1488 Active Member

    so they are more yellow today after I watered them yesterday with nutrients. They are starting to droop now and will droop more if I don't water.

    I used a tablespoon of grow big per gallon of water.
     

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    Chef420

    Chef420 Well-Known Member

    What size are the pots?
    They look really root bound which could be your problem.
    I keep thinking of things to ask. So when you pick the pots up after a day and a half are they very light or light? Does the soil feel wet at all when you put your finger carefully down the side?
     
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    Bugeye

    Bugeye Well-Known Member

    A nitrogen starved plant will first have leaves that lose their shine, then the color starts to fade, there is no interveinal yellowing, the whole leaf fades. You got something else going on, possibly overfed leading to nutrient antagonism, reference Mulder's chart. Your plant is thirsty, not over watered. Potting up is a good idea. If not, try bottom watering to get a good even saturation every now and then.
     
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    Steviesteve

    Steviesteve New Member

    I'm having the exact same issue and I am using the exact same soil and same nutes..
     
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    chemphlegm

    chemphlegm Well-Known Member

    fox farms :wall:
    I'd pull that ill leaf off before the others see it:leaf:
     
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    robot1488

    robot1488 Active Member

    See ive been very cautious about adding nutrients. I started these guys from seed in fox farm and didnt start to add nutrients till about a month old. The guys are over 2 months old.

    Why would they droop then perk back up after watering then ?

    I think its something other than nitrogen too. Since nitrogen seems like an easy deficiency to correct, but its gotten worse since my last feeding.

    I bought the air pots because they were supposed to prevent root bound to a large extent.

    Its hard to troubleshoot, when so many problems look the same.
     
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    robot1488

    robot1488 Active Member

    3 litre's - their airpots, so they are not supposed to get root bound as quickly.

    they are light, sometimes very light, but if I miss a day of watering they will droop like crazy
     
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    Chef420

    Chef420 Well-Known Member

    Oh man the poor girls are rootbound. You need to up pot asap. To a #3 for example.
    Give them a week to get used to their new shoes then flip to 12/12.
     
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    robot1488

    robot1488 Active Member

    Oh, im not flipping them. They are moms. Her children are already at work from about 2 weeks ago.
     
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    Bugeye

    Bugeye Well-Known Member

    Maybe they were wilting and needed a drink?:bigjoint:
     
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    chemphlegm

    chemphlegm Well-Known Member

    I've never grown a marijuana plant that was not root bound for the majority of her life. In veg all pots are root bound before they are transferred to a larger one, then that one is root bound too till finish. I have rootbound bonzai trees more than 24 years old in the same pot too. I dont see this as a problem
     
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    lio lacidem

    lio lacidem Well-Known Member

    Ive seen the guys from Farmhouse genetics keep a plant in tiny containers from seed to harvest to prove if you take care of plant rootbound doesnt really matter.
     
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    chemphlegm

    chemphlegm Well-Known Member

    exactly.

    now other issues can arise, like watering difficulties, pest thriving on dead root material etc, some of the reasons I dont like to keep moms
     

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