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Bud Blood / MoaB VS late-stage PK boosters?

Discussion in 'Nutrients' started by Ingvar, Dec 30, 2016.

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    rickyrozayyy

    rickyrozayyy Well-Known Member

    Truce then. Those like nice as well bro!!
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    I listed the ingredients from a very early jar of BB in my earlier post but I guess you missed that. A lot more than just P and K was in it. I've used plain PK boosters and they don't perform near as well. A lot depends on what the plants are growing in tho and a rich organic mix probably has developed a lot of the things naturally that make BB work so well. If I'm not doing DWC then I've mainly used straight peat-based soilless mixes like Sunshine and the older ProMix blends that need the extras in BB as they won't develop them on their own. Like hydro those need supplements and BB was mainly developed for hydro to supply the missing components.

    Two of the plants I'm growing now are a 50/50 blend of ProMix HP and ProMix potting soil mix both with MycoActive and are doing better than the two that are the HP and their Veg and Herb mix that doesn't use real dirt but has Myco too. I'll be growing more with the two different blends once I have clones from the same mother for a better comparison as the the four finishing now are the same strain but from seed so not all differences in their growing can be attributed to just the different grow media. They have all had the same doses of nutes at the same time tho.

    :peace:
     
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    westcoast420

    westcoast420 Well-Known Member

    Big bud is deff one of the best mid range boosters on the market. Its not what it used to be 10 years ago, but it still works great non the less. And there is alot more stuff in these products than is listed on the label.
     
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    Ingvar

    Ingvar Member

    When you go to use Big Bud in weeks 2-4 of flower, what do you use it with?
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    I give a half dose of BB a week before flipping to 12/12 then a full dose on the day I flip then skip a watering before any more.

    :peace:
     
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    westcoast420

    westcoast420 Well-Known Member

    I just use my base 3 part and silica with it. Kis
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    Using base nutes goes without saying and I start using Rhino Skin silica from when they are seedlings. Really hard to overdose the plants with silica but they don't need a lot either. I give them more in flowering tho too.
     
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    Ingvar

    Ingvar Member

    I use ProTekt. That's probably the last thing I would give up.. plants really are stronger with it!
     
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    Ingvar

    Ingvar Member

    What's your 3 part base? I'm guessing it already has a lot of PK in it, does adding Big Bud ever give you issues (nute burn / lockout)?
     
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    OldMedUser

    OldMedUser Well-Known Member

    Gives me big phat colas with any base nutes. Like anything else it can burn if you go nuts with it.

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    westcoast420

    westcoast420 Well-Known Member

    You can deff get a bit of burn if you feed all the time. I make sure to give them just water every few feeds. I use gh 3 part.
     
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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    And actually its high Phosphorus diets in early.flower that makes plant stretch way more than lower P values. Sure the nitrogen to carb ratio plays into it but real deal tissue analysis results say lay off the P for less leggy plants in early flowering. Yall look it up yerself.
     
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    Odin*

    Odin* Well-Known Member

    I've got almost 20 years in the industry and I don't believe that I've seen anyone here passing on bad information in an attempt to fuck somebody up. You will see conflicting opinions/info, but that is only due to differences in environment/methods/strain(s)/etc. There is a lot of knowledgeable growers here, lots of good info. The trick is weeding out that which will benefit you and your grow.

    Not saying that everyone will pass on their "trade secrets" either.

    I do know someone, outside of this site, that does their best to steal info, and at the same time try to fuck others up. Sad, but true.
     
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    Ingvar

    Ingvar Member

    That's the funny & sad thing about RIU & many other cannabis forums.. few regular contributors are truly 'wrong', they simply all have different setup / strains / environment / nute lineup etc. I like the passion with which they advocate for their reasoning but I wish it had fewer personal insults and more benevolent information sharing.
     
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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    Damn....just drop the mic and walk away why dont ya. Good post...and so true
     
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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    Its because everyone has nailed it and thinks they got the best dope...truth is....we all do. Not that hard folks..its really not. Especially these days. ..in these times
     
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    MMJ Dreaming 99

    MMJ Dreaming 99 Well-Known Member

    I hate MonSatan as much as you do but Ricky "ain't" a noob. The dude's leaves look better than most people's buds. He knows his stuff.
     
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    j to the c

    j to the c Well-Known Member

    I used dry and liquid koolbloom for years with success. I switched out liquid koolbloom with Canna pk13/14, great switch. I also tried Sonic bloom as a late flower booster and it works well. Then, I mixed koolbloom with sonic bloom 50/50, and it works way better than either alone. Now I'm trying MOAB/Sonic bloom 50/50 to see how well it does. Also just started 2 plants with bud blood for week 1. We will see how the stretch goes with them. I take everything to 10 weeks, so I use late boosters week 6-8 then flush for 2 full weeks on RDWC. Also, I put everything into a coffee grinder and turn it to dust before I add it to the res. Makes it dissolve instantly.
     

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