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bug identified:Lithobius forficatus

Discussion in 'Organics' started by Mazer, Sep 13, 2017.

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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear Gentlefolks,
    A while back I found a creepy crawler in my soil mix. As I encourage maximum diversity in my soil (and as a matter of fact everywhere else as well) I was happy to find this ugly thing...
    Until I identified it as being probably a Lithobius forficatus. The name is as nasty as the figure.
    Seems like it is munching on little arthropods and the occasional worm. It is a good and a bad thing as it pretty much kills anything that lives both beneficial and pests. Every time I come upon a worm in my soil, it is very sluggish and seems tired... well, I guess a tiny chunk of it gets bitten of whenever one of those Lithobius passes by...
    Has anyone had to deal with this insect? I rather assess carefully the situation before acting as the plants seems healthy in my ROLS setup.
    Thanks for your feedback.

    Buggingly yours,
    M
     

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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    I kill centipedes on sight.
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear ttystikk,
    do you care to elaborate?

    Peacefully yours,
    M
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    That's what that bug is called and I'm told its bite is poisonous.
     
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    Diabolical666

    Diabolical666 Well-Known Member

    Naa get rid of that guy hes not good for your soil web
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear Diabolical666,
    Any idea on how to get rid of the voracious fanged beast? I do ROLS and use no chemicals (beside maybe epsom salt)

    DukeNukemly yours,
    M
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Manually. Smash the fuckers whenever you see them.
     
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    berten-ernie420

    berten-ernie420 Well-Known Member

    I second that notion. Manually.
     
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    Diabolical666

    Diabolical666 Well-Known Member

    3rd
     
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    Diabolical666

    Diabolical666 Well-Known Member

    How does diatomaceous earth affect rols..good or bad? Would D.E. kill this? Or would it be too harmful to rols? Just throwing out some wake n bake thoughts...
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear Diabolical666,
    I am not too sure about D.E. So I will wait a bit before sprinkling it. however, from now on I will cut the creepers in two whenever I see them.

    ChopChopingly yours,
    M
     
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    hillbill

    hillbill Well-Known Member

    Organic recycling for years and use DE without reservation. It's also a source of silicon for your plants. I rub it on my feet under my socks during chigger madness. I once brought in some soil from the backyard (forest) a few winters ago and had hundreds of centipedes in the house the next morning. Followed that up with lizards and eggs in my compost I brought in. Hillbill brings nothing in from outdoors these days. Centipedes do bite and are mildly poisonous.
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear Hillbill,
    Following your recommendation, I just purchased 10lbs of DE. I believe it is OK with worms? I use a lot of EWC and my soil has a fair number of them aerating and mixing my soil. I would hate to hurt my little gardeners.

    How do you suggest I use the DE? sprinkle on top? mix to the surface? what quantities?

    Diatomaciously yours,
    M
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear Gentlefolks,
    Just a little update on my creepy crawler issue. As suggested, I ordered DE (10lbs...) sprinkled the soil with it. At first I was dubious as I kept one of the creatures in a party cup with DE and some soil. It stayed alive more than 48hrs before being frozen to death. So I was thinking the Lithobius was immune to DE.
    After a couple of weeks, I realized the fungus gnats were back around the pots. I have not had a sighting in weeks. My understanding was that the big guys were eating the gnats. so I started the dig in the soil to spot some of the hunters. Almost none left...
    So I got rid of a somewhat harmless insect (for the plants) which allowed an explosion in the gnats demographics.

    Bottom line: Be careful what you wish for...

    LesserEvily yours,
    M
     
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    hillbill

    hillbill Well-Known Member

    Just Google the uses for DE and in a baked form NAPA 8822!
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear hillbill,
    Thanks for your recommendation. I got rid of the segmented insect.
    Trust me I did all sorts of google on DE before bringing it anywhere near the Girls. Am I missing something?

    hundredPercently yours,
    M
     
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    hillbill

    hillbill Well-Known Member

    NAPA Auo Parts has an oil dry product that is a superheated granular DE which is great in a soil mix and acts like a cross between perlite and vermiculite in your growing mix. Great for grit on ice.
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    Dear Hillbill,
    This looks great! I will try to get a hold of a bag. Very well priced. I assume you have been using it. Does it break down or does it have a stable structure?

    Napa8822ingly yours,
    M
     
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    Mazer

    Mazer Active Member

    having said this, I just purchased 10lbs of DE powder... should last long enough for my grand children (to be born) to grow a few trees.
    10lbsFor100yearsingly yours,
    M
     
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    hillbill

    hillbill Well-Known Member

    Been using 8822 for 7 years or so.
     

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