Bushmaster: A How to Guide

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Hello everyone I recently became a member of this site and I thought id share everything i know about this very potent additive. BUSHMASTER by Humboldt County's Own
Bushmaster as slowly gained popularity with sog growers and commercial growers alike. While expensive i recommend to use it in moderation, less is better.

Try this:
Right before your plants go in to 12/12 cycle turn the lights off for 36 hours (a day and a half) then start your lights on 12/12 after that. This gives your plants a sort of "kick in the ass" forcing them to put there production more towards buds and less towards stretching. This simple technique can be used on its own to great results as well.
As for the bushmaster i add it twice: once during the first feeding after 12/12 and then once about 2-3 weeks later after a few fert and flush cycles. Now as for the dossage i use bout half of what the recomend, 1 ml per gallon. This has seemed to work very well but im sure some hardier or beffyer strain might be able to take more. On the feedings that i use bushmaster i drop my other nutes to half strangth as well.

(Ive also heard that some people turn the lights up to 24 hrs light after the bushmaster feeding ive never done but i will try it out on my next batch)


I hope this helps but be careful this stuff is very very poteint less is more. Any questions dont hesitate to ask!
 
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how big are your plants @ 1ml/g of bushmaster? i'm assuming that the dosage depends on the size of plants/roots. i am going to veg mine til they are about 3-4ft tall. never let the plants get that big before but i am hoping that the bushmaster will not allow plants to get over 5ft tall. but i am scared on the dosage cause keep hearing that you can easily burn. now on the first dose, should it fall on a watering day so as not to burn plant? or can u use it while feeding just maybe only do half of normal nutes? i can't afford to fuk this up! i do have a plant that showed male preflowers so i am letting it grow and use it as my test plant, but i am growing three different strains, two of which never grown before. how much experiance do you have with bushmaster? how much experiance do you have growing? thanks man.
 
tom__420

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Why would you put your plants in 36 hours of darkness and still use bushmaster? The 36 hour dark will cause a good bit of stretching... that is what you are trying to stop by using the bushmaster... no?
I would suggest just giving the plant some bloom nutes a few days before switching to flower and just go from 18/6 to 12/12
When the plant is in darkness it produces auxins that speed up cell elongation aka stretching. If you are going to use a product to stop stretching why would you start flowering off by making them stretch so much?
 
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i have read tom that letting the plant stretch a little at first could have advantages. like spreading out the buds a little to help with mold (airflow). guess it all depends on how the plant is before starting flower and how you want it to end up.
 
OB Cron Kenobi

OB Cron Kenobi

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Dude is right- there is absolutely no reason to use bushmaster and put them in 36 hours of darkness, especially if the bushmaster isnt used before the dark period. Foolish.

I use Bushmaster in my hydro grows when I am doing monster Sativa's (Neville's Haze, Hawaiian Snow) indoors. I veg for however long I feel- usually 3-5 weeks, bringing them to 3-4 feet tall and in the last five days I add bushmaster at whole dose with nothing else. Then in the first rez mix of bloom nutes I cut the dosage of all nutes in half, and add half recommended Bushmaster.

Using these products in Hydro- as they say, is experimental. I use bushmaster, gravity, and purple maxx- all require a unique application in hydroponics.

With Gravity, I do the same thing as the bushmaster. First dose comes when flowers are beginning to stack- I use just water and full dose, then next rez change is half strength gravity with half strength nutes. Works Great.

With Purple Maxx, depending on strain: If its a purple strain I use it every rez change adding it the day before the change, shutting off the airstones (you must do this or it will explode with bacteria and foam!) and then wait 24-36 hours before finishing the rez change and filling up with fresh water and nutes. For non-purple strains I use it the last two-three weeks with the same method previously mentioned. I find it helps the purp in purp strains, and in any strains it works amazing at crystal production.

The Bushmaster kept my monster sativas from potentially doubling to 7-8 feet and kept them between 5-6. The gravity makes typically airy buds much denser and adds substantially to harvest weight.

If used properly in hydro they certainly work, but it takes some experimentation.

I have not used it in Foliar spray... I know with Purple Maxx if you are looking to get the most effect in terms of coloring your plant purple they recommend it as a Foliar feed.
 
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badness said:
how big are your plants @ 1ml/g of bushmaster? i'm assuming that the dosage depends on the size of plants/roots. i am going to veg mine til they are about 3-4ft tall. never let the plants get that big before but i am hoping that the bushmaster will not allow plants to get over 5ft tall. but i am scared on the dosage cause keep hearing that you can easily burn. now on the first dose, should it fall on a watering day so as not to burn plant? or can u use it while feeding just maybe only do half of normal nutes? i can't afford to fuk this up! i do have a plant that showed male preflowers so i am letting it grow and use it as my test plant, but i am growing three different strains, two of which never grown before. how much experiance do you have with bushmaster? how much experiance do you have growing? thanks man.
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ok first of all i have grow for 5 years indoor year round and outdoor weather permitting. As for bush master i have used it on my last two full cycles after doing a side by side test with a control plant. ( i never use anything on my whole up unless ive tested it on my strain.) For feeding its really dependent on how well your strain take to nutes. For my strain i hit them with bushmaster on a feeding day with my nutes at half strength. But if your that worryed you can hit with just bushmaster on a feeding day. o and 1 ml a gallon isnt very strong at all its half what they recomend.
 
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tom__420 said:
Why would you put your plants in 36 hours of darkness and still use bushmaster? The 36 hour dark will cause a good bit of stretching... that is what you are trying to stop by using the bushmaster... no?
I would suggest just giving the plant some bloom nutes a few days before switching to flower and just go from 18/6 to 12/12
When the plant is in darkness it produces auxins that speed up cell elongation aka stretching. If you are going to use a product to stop stretching why would you start flowering off by making them stretch so much?
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in my experience the combination leads to bigger yields. the only way i can explain it is it kick starts bud production. I've never had a problem with stretching but i use a sog method and start flowering with smaller plants. Im sorry if you dont get the same results but its just a trick i picked up somewhere and tryed it out and it worked amazing with the sog and bushmaster
 
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OB Cron Kenobi said:
Dude is right- there is absolutely no reason to use bushmaster and put them in 36 hours of darkness, especially if the bushmaster isnt used before the dark period. Foolish.

I use Bushmaster in my hydro grows when I am doing monster Sativa's (Neville's Haze, Hawaiian Snow) indoors. I veg for however long I feel- usually 3-5 weeks, bringing them to 3-4 feet tall and in the last five days I add bushmaster at whole dose with nothing else. Then in the first rez mix of bloom nutes I cut the dosage of all nutes in half, and add half recommended Bushmaster.

Using these products in Hydro- as they say, is experimental. I use bushmaster, gravity, and purple maxx- all require a unique application in hydroponics.

With Gravity, I do the same thing as the bushmaster. First dose comes when flowers are beginning to stack- I use just water and full dose, then next rez change is half strength gravity with half strength nutes. Works Great.

With Purple Maxx, depending on strain: If its a purple strain I use it every rez change adding it the day before the change, shutting off the airstones (you must do this or it will explode with bacteria and foam!) and then wait 24-36 hours before finishing the rez change and filling up with fresh water and nutes. For non-purple strains I use it the last two-three weeks with the same method previously mentioned. I find it helps the purp in purp strains, and in any strains it works amazing at crystal production.

The Bushmaster kept my monster sativas from potentially doubling to 7-8 feet and kept them between 5-6. The gravity makes typically airy buds much denser and adds substantially to harvest weight.

If used properly in hydro they certainly work, but it takes some experimentation.

I have not used it in Foliar spray... I know with Purple Maxx if you are looking to get the most effect in terms of coloring your plant purple they recommend it as a Foliar feed.
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ok well it seems it didnt work out great for you but it has for me 36 hours at the beginning to kick start bud production and at the end to get maximum resin production. im curios to the fact of whether or not you've tryed it in tests such as i have?

In my experiance it works!
 
grobofotwanky

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I've tested 18/6 to 12/12 next day, 24, and 36 hours. I find that next day takes me about 7-10 days to sex, while 36 hours leaves the plants slightly phototropic. When I use 24 hours darkness between veg and flower, my plants show distinguishable sex in the 3-8 days. It could just be coincidence or nature at play, but I've done it for years and I like it. MMJCC, never payed much attention to bushmaster but sounds interesting. Got any info on Gravity?
 
tom__420

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grobofotwanky said:
I've tested 18/6 to 12/12 next day, 24, and 36 hours. I find that next day takes me about 7-10 days to sex, while 36 hours leaves the plants slightly phototropic. When I use 24 hours darkness between veg and flower, my plants show distinguishable sex in the 3-8 days. It could just be coincidence or nature at play, but I've done it for years and I like it. MMJCC, never payed much attention to bushmaster but sounds interesting. Got any info on Gravity?
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Were these tests done on the same strain? All the clones from the exact same mother for each test I take it? If not than your tests don't really mean anything at all...
 
grobofotwanky

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tom__420 said:
Were these tests done on the same strain? All the clones from the exact same mother for each test I take it? If not than your tests don't really mean anything at all...
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Not tested with clones but with seeds obtained from a single female. Plotted results for 4 or 5 grows. I'm no scientist, my test might not mean anything, I agree with you there. But its what I like to do and my ganj is dank as hell. :bigjoint:
 
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grobofotwanky said:
I've tested 18/6 to 12/12 next day, 24, and 36 hours. I find that next day takes me about 7-10 days to sex, while 36 hours leaves the plants slightly phototropic. When I use 24 hours darkness between veg and flower, my plants show distinguishable sex in the 3-8 days. It could just be coincidence or nature at play, but I've done it for years and I like it. MMJCC, never payed much attention to bushmaster but sounds interesting. Got any info on Gravity?
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Yeah thats what i mean! It kick starts budding or in a case when you dont know the sex, it will show sex earlyer. the 36 hrs dark is really only 12 as your starting your 12/12 right after it. But it depends on how much stress your perticular strain can take. Like you said you've had good luck with 24hrs dark. As long as you get a double dark period.

As for gravity, all i can say is it works haha. It adds desity to your buds and weight to your yeild. Its expensive just like bushmaster but you use small doses of it. I didnt use it on my last round cuz i ran out and just been lazy bout getting more.(for me the closest hydro stores bout a 45 min drive haha) But i got it for the first time when i got bushmaster and it was included in the tests that i did and like i said it works hahahaha.
 
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Uncle Ben said:
How does this kelp snake oil create more compact growth? Are there any bonafide university studies regarding its merit? http://www.planetnatural.com/site/bush-master.html

Only bushmaster I've ever known was this chic who wore these black leathers, carried a whip.........
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As far as i know Humboldt County's Own Brand is one of the only nutrient companies that has facilities devoted testing there products on herb. I think A.N. has one too. But from my own personal experience and working with other grower it does two things mainly: Tightens up nod spacing and increases lateral branching, and the plants treated with it seemed to yeild in average about 10-12% more although this is prolly due to the compact bud develupment and incressed branching!

As for the bushmasters your refering too i've come across only one it my life and it wasnt pleasnt! HAHAHAHA i like a lil landing patch not an ochard hahahahahhahah

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK MAN!
 
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Medical MJ Cures Cancer said:
As far as i know Humboldt County's Own Brand is one of the only nutrient companies that has facilities devoted testing there products on herb. I think A.N. has one too.
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Ya think?

But from my own personal experience and working with other grower it does two things mainly: Tightens up nod spacing and increases lateral branching, and the plants treated with it seemed to yeild in average about 10-12% more although this is prolly due to the compact bud develupment and incressed branching!
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We see what we want to see, that is human nature. Now, what are the active ingredients? Kelp contains no PGR"s or hormones.
 
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Uncle Ben said:
Ya think?



We see what we want to see, that is human nature. Now, what are the active ingredients? Kelp contains no PGR"s or hormones.
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ok buddie was was trying to be cool but f off your all over these forums bitching at everyone who has new ideas of questions your way of growing. Your not a god and results are results and numbers are numbers. I dont know why your even on this thread bushmaster is mainly for sea of green and the other verious methods of sog. To keep plants from streatching. But you dont even think the sog method works judging by your past posting in the lolliepoping thread. And what do you mean "ya think" If what i said about Humboldt is true like you seem to be saying then the study should be the fact that they make it. Which means they test it on MARIJUANA plants and it must do what they say it does otherwise they wouldnt market it. there a very good company from everyone that uses them so when i get something from them i expect it to work. Which so far everything has
 
beeker

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never heard of bushmaster, but seems like all the claims, that Im getting same thing by using mollasses, Hmmm.
 
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