Butane is going to kill you guys!

My point was the opposite. There are people..in fact cultures that smoke that amount or much more so..
I smoke a qp of flower every week like clockwork and have been doing so for a couple decades, and that doesn't include my qwiso.. half lb a week is the norm for many, if not conserved as well and perhaps smoked partially in joints. But still this amount of herb has not been shown to cause long term effects. Now I'm not advocating the combustion of plant material but hash oil especially clean winterized hash for the most part is perfectly safe. I don't think many will say smoking hash puts them at a greater risk of lung cancer or destroys lung capacity etc.. I mean this just isn't supported by today's knowledge.. of course there would be many variables like the amount of fats and such you smoke and type of hash etc just like the bud, could there have been pesticides..you know...but I mean strictly talking about thc and the flavorful/psychoactive components I just don't see it. When you look back through history these claims aren't substantiated. I don't believe there to be any negative effects(well that's not true, I do know and acknowledge many side effects) but not like we are talking about here

I did some research on this. as long as the butane is 5x distilled it is fine for making oil, there is no left over material . that will harm you. a way to test it . spray it onto a piece of metal let dry wipe your finger on it if you feel any thing its not good. 5 x passed a medical grade testing for safety. and its 3 bucks a can. you can find it in smoke shops

bimple said:

Butane is organically friendly and NON-TOXIC. This solvent has been used in the food industry for decades because it is one of the easiest solvents to cleanly evaporate away, leaving no trace and does not react with the food products being extracted. You may not be aware that butane is the propellant used in cooking oil spray canisters. Why not, it is safe, non-toxic, evaporates completely and dissolves the oil readily so it can be sprayed out of the low pressure canister and it provides the pressure to do so. Butane is used as an artificial anti-oxidant that they put it in chicken nuggets to keep them “fresh” tasting. So instead of your chicken nuggets being fresh, Butane keeps them “fresh." Butane is also found in frozen, packaged or pre-made processed foods with long shelf lives such as frozen meals, crackers, chips, cereal bars and fast food.

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Bon Appetit! Fucking scary what you eat and Butane being "organically friendly" is a very good one!!!

All I know is I've tried many types of butane made oils, it doesn't matter how good it's made I can take a hit and feel my body doesn't like it. I'll stick to water extraction personally. Not knocking anyone who likes that route, but I'm not convinced its 100 percent safe. None of us know the long term effects of continuos use with solvent extracts.

beuffer420 said:

All I know is I've tried many types of butane made oils, it doesn't matter how good it's made I can take a hit and feel my body doesn't like it. I'll stick to water extraction personally. Not knocking anyone who likes that route, but I'm not convinced its 100 percent safe. None of us know the long term effects of continuos use with solvent extracts.

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Well said my friend. I've never tried BHO before and after reading this thread I am glad I haven't. I used to be really sad though that I had no access to any of this fancy dab shit.

I think most people dabbing BHO take way too much. If you figure an extraction rate of 15%, if you smoke a 0.1g dab you just had smoked all the resin from 0.6g of plant material.

I try not to exceed 40 mg in a single dose. Otherwise, tolerance grows rapidly.

^^^ At first I would get so fucking stupid off a dab or two. Few months later I can never get to that point again and several dabs in a row just make me feel like a bunch of bong hits and volcano bags did before getting into bho, well not exactly the same, feeling is different but about he same intensity.

The dam chemical is paranoia just ask the OP or troll as its clear the bafoon is.

Mystery oils! Still a mystery to OP... Closed loop Son!

I didn't even get to pet the troll....bravo yall.

Whatha fuq happend to good old matches and rolling papers??

I'm into getting Really high. That's what happened

I asked for a pack of matches the other day at the gas station, clerk looked at me like I was retarded....I miss those days, fuck I'm old.

hellmutt bones said:

Whatha fuq happend to good old matches and rolling papers??

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cuz dabs dont make me stink like a joint does.

Kervork said:

The chemical poison of which he speaks is Killoxin. Killoxin is a synthetic toxin which is odourless, tasteless and cannot be detected with gas chromatagraph or any other scientific equipment. It is produced by any process which involves technology more advanced than wood, stone or ISO. Symptoms of poisioning range from death to posting things online which make no logical sense. Your phone for example has residual killoxin as does your computer and keyboard. Over a period of 60 to 80 years exposure to killoxin can cause wrinkles, skin blemishes, and pre-mature aging. Killoxin can be produced by any weed extraction process that doesn't natural ingredients. For example, bubble bags, being made in a factory from chemicals can give off killoxin. The only safe method is to use ISO because this material is absolutely pure having come from deep underground and never having touched a factory or other technology other than being bottled by elves.

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heh thats funny

Dannoo93 said:

Im done with dabs im gonna start making dryice/bubblebag hash and try to dab that dabs had me coughin up a lil blood

Dannoo93

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Damn! coughing up a little blood? Ouch!

Vaporizing may be a better solution. I happen to know of a lung cancer patient that started using an electronic vaporizer with a concentrate mixed with PG USP. He has regained 25% use of his lungs after having used the vaporizer for about one or two months. If you want to do it straight, just use an eclipse vape. You can find those for less than $50 online. RSO doesn't work too well in them but it works really good with e-cannabis. I tried QWISO hash in an Eclipse Vaporizer. As long as you go easy with the torch lighter it seemed really friendly to my lungs. Even more friendly when made into e-cannabis. I have never been a fan of dabs. I prefer 100% vaporizing. If I ever get to the point where I cannot vape (I doubt it) I will just continue to eat RSO.

I saw one person mention that cannabis hurt their lungs after long term use of mass consumption. That could be for a lot of reasons. Combustion, contaminated, hydroponically grown, pesticides. I have smoked longer than he has and I have smoked cigarettes. All I do now is vaporize and edibles. My lungs feel better than ever now.

I have no fear of solvent contamination what so ever in my oil. I like to use 99% isopropyl. When the oil is finished, I will dilute it with grain alcohol, purge again, maybe even winterize it. That makes me feel 100% confident that I am working with a safe material. Especially knowing that the buds were grown organically and no pesticides were used.

I think vaporizing QWISO or eating RSO is good for you as long as it is done right.

Okay every one you Gus want personal proof.? I'm 19 mostly healthy , workout lil bit. got dabs around a quarter . Smoke them for a week pretty chroniclly too btw an I never coughed at all ever. TRUST ME!! And then started getting all kinds of pain and burning sensation. Long story short been hospital 4times . Lost feeling in my whole body. Can't hear things. Can't see things and now I can't taste things. All from bad dabs and now I'm loosing my life. I'm not joking guys if u don't know what's in them or how there made I wouldn't dare to try. Too late for me I guess.(

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Okay every one you Gus want personal proof.? I'm 19 mostly healthy , workout lil bit. got dabs around a quarter . Smoke them for a week pretty chroniclly too btw an I never coughed at all ever. TRUST ME!! And then started getting all kinds of pain and burning sensation. Long story short been hospital 4times . Lost feeling in my whole body. Can't hear things. Can't see things and now I can't taste things. All from bad dabs and now I'm loosing my life. I'm not joking guys if u don't know what's in them or how there made I wouldn't dare to try. Too late for me I guess.(

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sounds like a stroke, pot increases all those things

May I point out some of the pioneers of BHO??

All still actively posting and seem to be in exceptionally good health, still writing eloquent posts that teach..

Gray Wolf
Foaf
Gunna know
Jump
HMK
there are many more....

These gents have vaporized perhaps even copious amounts of BHO..

They all seem to be doing pretty damn fine to me.