Calling all Breeders who can make a strain.

I have a idea of what kind of cross strains I want to make a new strain. I would like to know how hard it is, who in this community does it, and how much would it be to complete this project.

Any takers? Anyone knows who I can talk to about this? Thanks Community.
 

Sativied

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and how much would it be to complete this project.
How much what? Money? Time? Space? Learning?

I would like to know how hard it is
Creating a new strain is easy, creating a new worthy good strain is something entirely different. It's like painting, the techniques aren't that hard, it's what you do with then that matters.

Google 'breeding a new variety', or 'breeding a new cultivar'.

Check out the Breeder's Paradise sub forum of the one we're in now.

Learn about Mendelian inheritance.
 
ok. thanks for the response.
I wanted to know, if I found a breeder, how much money and time would it cost/take to make a new strain. I have a couple names and a couple of possible weed strains I would like to use.

I would like to smoke the bud after I make the new strain.

Thanks again. I will check out breeders paradise.
 
It all depends on your goals to be honest . You can chuck pollen with limited selection and sort the mess or you can take years with selective breeding and go from there . It all depends on what you want to stabilize and what your beginning genetics offer as well as time money and space limitations .. Perhaps learn to make simple hybrids and study this art while taking notes . Then you can begin the process of learning selection and how inbreeding comes into play when making a stable strain , there are more hybrids now being called strains then most people know or realize

There are a few good books on the subject and many other great articles and notes to be found .. Best of luck
 

Da Mann

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If you told us what you want to do you might find it has been done. I have crossed hundreds.
 
Do any of you know of any experienced breeders who offer this type of service? I think it would be a cool idea. If you have crossed strains before do you rename them?

I would like to find a experienced grower who is willing to attempt what I am trying to achieve; a stable strain I can say I named and thought of.

Thanks for all the info guys.
 

tip top toker

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Do any of you know of any experienced breeders who offer this type of service? I think it would be a cool idea. If you have crossed strains before do you rename them?

I would like to find a experienced grower who is willing to attempt what I am trying to achieve; a stable strain I can say I named and thought of.

Thanks for all the info guys.
I know of none, most breeders, as the name suggests, are busy breeding. Let's just imagine you could find one, how much would you pay considering it might be years of work.

For someone this interested in creating their own strain, I don't know why you don't just do it yourself. I love beef jerky, I didn't go around trying to find someone to make some for me, I learnt to makemy own!
 

Sativied

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Do any of you know of any experienced breeders who offer this type of service? I think it would be a cool idea. If you have crossed strains before do you rename them?

I would like to find a experienced grower who is willing to attempt what I am trying to achieve; a stable strain I can say I named and thought of.

Thanks for all the info guys.
I would like to smoke the bud after I make the new strain.
No offense but you remind me so much of the app gold rush. I have read quite a few like:

"I have a great idea for an iPhone app, but I know nothing about programming and developing."

Unless you got tens of thousands of dollars to spare, no serious breeder is going to create a new strain for you.
 
I know of none, most breeders, as the name suggests, are busy breeding. Let's just imagine you could find one, how much would you pay considering it might be years of work.

For someone this interested in creating their own strain, I don't know why you don't just do it yourself. I love beef jerky, I didn't go around trying to find someone to make some for me, I learnt to makemy own!
If I were to find an experienced breeder I would discuss the price with them. Unfortunately you would be disqualified as a participant in that conversation. At this point in time I would rather pay for experience and quality than to just do it. In the future when I have the a couple grows under my belt then I can ponder creating my own.

No offense but you remind me so much of the app gold rush. I have read quite a few like:

"I have a great idea for an iPhone app, but I know nothing about programming and developing."

Unless you got tens of thousands of dollars to spare, no serious breeder is going to create a new strain for you.
Lol. I do have a great app idea, but know nothing about programming and developing. Anything wrong with that?!

So based on your statement you value making a strain from an experienced breeder in the tens of thousands?
 

Sativied

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Lol. I do have a great app idea, but know nothing about programming and developing. Anything wrong with that?!

So based on your statement you value making a strain from an experienced breeder in the tens of thousands?
The thing is, or was, that those who did know about programming and developing have plenty of their own ideas but only so much time in one life. The reason it reminds me of it, is that you too have nothing to bring to the table that the breeder doesn't have already. The solution, for you, is throwing money at it. Nothing wrong with hiring someone else to do the manual labor or hire someone for his/her experience and expertise.

An experienced breeder could easily market and sell a strain through already established contacts. Same as that iphone developer who can release his own app and doesn't need your ideas or name to make money. You're not just paying for the time, if you want to own the strain, basically buying exclusive rights to sell it, and since you specifically said "stable" (which most named crosses/strains today aren't), then yeah tens of thousands isn't that much.

An easy example. Let's say you want your own haze variety. You (or the breeder) knows a good haze strain from which one parent can be selected, and you know a strain with a certain taste you want to have breed into that strain. If both strains are stable to begin with the breeder still needs to grow out hundreds of plants (which costs space, time, electricity..., and manual labor) and will have to do at the very least 4 or 5 generations, taking a year roughly, not including the initial parents selection. And that's when everything goes perfect, which in reality is rarely the case. And that's when you only want 'a' trait in an already stable strain. If you want your own sativa-indica hybrid based on a landrace it'll take a 'tad' longer...
 
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tip top toker

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Maybe learn to grow before getting all giddy about having your own personal strain ;-) walk, then run. Or just forget the idea as its way out of your league. You can't even grow by the sound of it.
 
The thing is, or was, that those who did know about programming and developing have plenty of their own ideas but only so much time in one life. The reason it reminds me of it, is that you too have nothing to bring to the table that the breeder doesn't have already. The solution, for you, is throwing money at it. Nothing wrong with hiring someone else to do the manual labor or hire someone's for his/her experience and expertise.

An experienced breeder could easily market and sell a strain through already established contacts. Same as that iphone developer who can release his own app and doesn't need your ideas or name to make money. You're not just paying for the time, if you want to own the strain, basically buying exclusive rights to sell it, and since you specifically said "stable" (which most named crosses/strains today aren't), then yeah tens of thousands isn't that much.

An easy example. Let's say you want your own haze variety. You (or the breeder) knows a good haze strain from which one parent can be selected, and you know a strain with a certain taste you want to have breed into that strain. If both strains are stable to begin with the breeder still needs to grow out hundreds of plants (which costs space, time, electricity..., and manual labor) and will have to do at the very least 4 or 5 generations, taking a year roughly, not including the initial parents selection. And that's when everything goes perfect, which in reality is rarely the case. And that's when you only want 'a' trait in an already stable strain. If you want your own sativa-indica hybrid based on a landrace it'll take a 'tad' longer...
Thank you for the detailed response. I wanted to get a ball park range of the time and energy needed to successfully pull it off. Thanks for clearing this up for me.

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