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Can a light get too efficient

Discussion in 'LED and other Lighting' started by Uncle Reefer, Feb 9, 2018.

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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    I have no idea, but I did. Like, that’s just the area I live in (Northern Appalachian Mountains.) It got so bad those days that I literally woke up under a blanket, in a robe and hat, with the heater on at 4-5am freezing too badly to sleep. It was definitely in the single digits and negatives a few days in January. The Kush genetics might help, since that’s the Fall/Winter climate of Afghanistan. Cold as balls.
     
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    SSGrower

    SSGrower Well-Known Member

    I simply do not understand how you can compile the information you do and come to the conclusions that you do. Its amlost like you are trying to seed misinformation by overwhelming with technical dat, alot of it bullshit? I cant figure it out? What is your objective? If you are trying to figure things out that is fine, more power to you, but please, please, stop posting these diatribes that indicate to me you cannot draw a logical conclusion from the information presented.

    Give me a reason not to hit the ignore button and if "ISL" is any part of your response, you will not have to worry about hearing from me again.
     
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    PurpleBuz

    PurpleBuz Well-Known Member

    Wrong
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Nah man
    I was like HOLY FOOOOK
    my poor babies lets just say i.didnt sell any of it


    It didnt hurt the buds too much but it froze the outer leaves and gave the bud a shitty taste especially since it was about 2 weeks early :(

    My fault for thinking i could go one winter on my roof insulation lmao


    But i regret i didnt take a picture of the icicle hanging from the end of the nft setup :oops:
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Sorry bud i know all about cold being in alaska

    And water freezes at 30 degrees or so

    So im telling you you havent hit single digits cuase your pots would be solid ice.

    Might have been very cold but i just cant swallow that one

    But im not trying to be rude or anything
     
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    GrowLightResearch

    GrowLightResearch Well-Known Member

    I have none. ISL. Please put me on ignore. I have done the same for you.

    I am not responsible for what you do not understand.

    You do not understand so it is me that must be wrong? What did you have to offer to correct me?
     
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    Uncle Reefer

    Uncle Reefer Well-Known Member

    well that was classy if also a bit sad, a more polite way to end a disagreement.
     
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    GrowLightResearch

    GrowLightResearch Well-Known Member

    Just wrong? Nothing else? That's bullshit, correct me.

    What is your interpretation of the difference between absorbance and absorptance?
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    At least I can grow outdoors all winter long. It is my easiest growing season for outdoors.
     
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    PurpleBuz

    PurpleBuz Well-Known Member

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    SSGrower

    SSGrower Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, glr obviuosly has a technical brain. I dont have the energy to engage.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Sometimes people take it personal... But in time he might learn that we probably made the same mistakes of understanding once upon a time.
     
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    Kkesu

    Kkesu Member

    I dunno what other people like about the efficiency but if it's so damn efficient that means I could cut back on the total watts used to be the equivalent of the less efficient lights. So if it's 4 times as efficient I'd totally drop down to 250 watts while still getting the output of the old 1000. So I'm not sure how TOO efficient would be a problem. it means you get to save more on power and still get the same results..
     
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    wietefras

    wietefras Well-Known Member

    That's the problem though. He seems able to use Google and find the right information, but without fail he interprets the information incorrectly and comes up with the most wildly ridiculous conclusions. He's really not learning at all.
     
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    SSGrower

    SSGrower Well-Known Member

    Missinformation is not necessarily wrong, could just be the conditions of application, the environment, external factors not considered. For those that care ISL applies to a point souce radiation in a vaccum, it is true.

    And he's right he is not responsible for me not understanding humanitys social interactions and need to dominate others with their ideals.
     
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    wietefras

    wietefras Well-Known Member

    Apart from lighting the plants most of us also need/want some heat to heat up the room to somewhere between 26C or 32C. It can be difficult at times to get the air that warm when using leds.
     
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    SSGrower

    SSGrower Well-Known Member

    There is no probably about it NASA did alot of whats been suggested and came to the same conclusion, you need more than blue and red to have a healthy plant. There is a difference effeciency and efficacy.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    I agree, even if it just needs a tiny bit of other colours it is still a need.
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    It’s cool, you don’t have to believe me, I suppose. By the way, Fort Drum, NY gets colder than Alaska. Alaska’s not necessarily the end-all, be-all of cold.
     
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    ANC

    ANC Well-Known Member

    Table mountain kills more people that Everest.
     
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