Can a Strain Carry a Genetic Nutrient Deficiency?

Joe Camel

Joe Camel

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Ok So I have Dutch passion White Widow.

All throughout Vegg the plants looked wonderful.
Before I started feeding I noticed a Magnesium deficiency.
Towards the end of Vegg.

Now throught flowering I still have a the same nute problem that I have to combat by adding Epsom salt to every other feeding.

The reason for this question is that the clones that I took are now showing the same problems.

( Clones were taken before problem came to head )

They are in great environment conditions.

But are now showing the MG deficiency in the same time frame as their parent plants, all though I have not feed them yet.

It seems as they have depleted all the nutrients in the soil they exhibit the Mg deficiency 1st.

IDK Im scratching my head with this.

Never gone through nutrient deficiency before especially not carried over with clones.

They are in Fox Farm Happy frog soil.

Any insight would be great Thanks Guys

~~Joe~~
 
satch

satch

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All plants are different so I don't see any reason why individuals couldn't use more of certain element than another. I've had plenty of nitrohogs but never one hungry for mg.
 
AllAboutIt

AllAboutIt

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I had a problem with MG turned out to be a ph problem making MG toxic to the mother after a flush or 2 and a week of 1/2 strength shes was near normal the, salt could be keeping your soils ph a bit low in turn making some stuff unavailable at times and im pretty sure when the soil drys out it gets more acidic, just me 2 cents. hope this helps
 
Punk

Punk

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Joe Camel said:
Ok So I have Dutch passion
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There's the problem.

Dutch Passion is one of the worst breeders, and dude, it's not you, its their genetics, they resist nutes and you're going to be unhappy with them.

I just got done with their orange bud and the yield was shit...same problems as you, grew fairly well during veg, mg problem, then once they got flowering they started losing fan leaves like no tomorrow.

My advice would be to chop them down and start over with something else...I still have a bunch of their beans, you can have 'em.

Oh ya, one of them hermed on me too.
 
MediMaryUser

MediMaryUser

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Punk said:
There's the problem.

Dutch Passion is one of the worst breeders, and dude, it's not you, its their genetics, they resist nutes and you're going to be unhappy with them.

I just got done with their orange bud and the yield was shit...same problems as you, grew fairly well during veg, mg problem, then once they got flowering they started losing fan leaves like no tomorrow.

My advice would be to chop them down and start over with something else...I still have a bunch of their beans, you can have 'em.

Oh ya, one of them hermed on me too.
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if your not going to use those seeds take them and plant them somewhere where they might have a chance to grow and establish a wild weed colony or whatever its called lol
 
Joe Camel

Joe Camel

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MediMaryUser said:
if your not going to use those seeds take them and plant them somewhere where they might have a chance to grow and establish a wild weed colony or whatever its called lol
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I have never seen a bad batch of seeds as bad as these.
I still have a few.
All the clones are developing the same traits.

I even gave some Clones away and Now my Friends are complaining Why they just started to curl up and show MG deficiencies.

I'll post some pics and see if you guys have ever seen this before.

Im just Kinda pissed.
I spent extra money for Dutch Passion Breeding Genetics
So I could Grow the Best White Widow out there.

Now The buds forming look PHENOMENAL but all the fan leaves look like shit.

Is there any way for me To Breed this deficiency out?

I have Big Bud, Trainwreck, Silverhaze, and AK47 seeds I could use.

Which genetics would be best to try to breed with my Widow?
~~Joe~~
 
RoloTomassi

RoloTomassi

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Yes, according to The Cannabis Grow Bible, 2nd Ed.

Problematic nutrients are on the increase with stabilized plant breeding. As breeders develop strains for certain characteristics -- flowering times, potency, yield, colors, etc. -- they sometimes accidentally stabilize other traits like nutrient requirements, smell or taste. Some breeders point out when their strains need more K or Mg, and this is worth taking into consideration when choosing your strain and feeding products.
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303

303

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same thing happened with my grape ape, I blamed it on our hardwater. Its at 330ppms out the tap. we threw her away, until we get RO water we are growing easier plants, like my durban posiion.
 
CEAhaze

CEAhaze

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Joe Camel said:
Ok So I have Dutch passion White Widow.

All throughout Vegg the plants looked wonderful.
Before I started feeding I noticed a Magnesium deficiency.
Towards the end of Vegg.

Now throught flowering I still have a the same nute problem that I have to combat by adding Epsom salt to every other feeding.

The reason for this question is that the clones that I took are now showing the same problems.

( Clones were taken before problem came to head )

They are in great environment conditions.

But are now showing the MG deficiency in the same time frame as their parent plants, all though I have not feed them yet.

It seems as they have depleted all the nutrients in the soil they exhibit the Mg deficiency 1st.

IDK Im scratching my head with this.

Never gone through nutrient deficiency before especially not carried over with clones.

They are in Fox Farm Happy frog soil.

Any insight would be great Thanks Guys

~~Joe~~
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Seriously? Please let's not blame the seed company. It should have been a clue on your first grow that you need to premix cal/mag supplements in your medium to prevent that problem from the beginning. I use the same soil your using but I mix dolomite lime with it before I even throw any plant in there. Also dolomite lime helps stabilize the soil. Each strain has different characteristics and that's not a deficiency. Some eat more nutes than the others, etc. I suggest research this plant. I think your problem started from cal/mag deficiency and kept adding on.
 
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