Care to give my unexpected grow a look?

Hey there!
A little about me:
Veteran smoker but when it comes to cultivation I am a total newb. I came into a clone and have been scrambling for information and resources ever since. I can get a little overwhelmed with depression and anxiety so having something to take care of is really helping bring focus to my days (I was laid off in April and idle hands are not good for me). Due to the sheer volume of information out there I figured it might help to rope some folks in to take a look at my girl and tell me what they think or give some friendly advice to a gal

A little about my plant/set up:
Strain: White Widow
Tent: 32x32x63
Lights: CFL's (I know, I know)

Timeline:

5/18- clone was gifted to me out of nowhere- got a bunch of houselights together and left it under those 24hrs/day for 2 days while I gathered some info.

5/20- Gutted an old steamer trunk I found and turned it into a grow box, lined with foil, cut out an exhaust hole for small fan, threw up 4-100w output 6500k lights and another small fan

5/21- really didn't like the soil quality or size pot, so I mixed up my own soil with some pebbles, organic potting mix, worm castings from my worm farm, and some sand. tested PH was 6 so I left it. topped the little girl a bit (just from my previous houseplant experience- at this point I didn't know anything about hst,lst or scrogging)

6/7 - transplanted again, into a 5gal fabric growbag. tied large stems and pinned down near sides of bag to get max light penetration

6/13- Grow tent came in (32x32x63) set up, threw plant in there with my lights and fans

*watered when it was needed with diluted Neptune's Harvest I had lying around. Ordered some FoxFarm GrowBig and Big Bloom but my feeding schedule is obviously out of whack at this point. When GB and BB
came in mixed per directions and fed every other watering. Got some PH up and Down and tested nutes in distilled water and adjusted PH.

6/18 Made a ridiculously amateur light fixture to add more light. My girl is bushy af but I know I made some big mistakes along the way. Ordered humidity/thermostat should be here in a few days- overall good air circulation and humidity doesnt feel high.

current lights in tent:
Eight 100w equiv 6500k 1600 lumen CFLs
Six 60w equiv 2700k 900 lumen CFLs


So, like I said, I came into this clone with absolutely no knowledge or equipment and have just been fumbling my way through it. buying things as I can and hoping for the best while I try to learn as much as I can both about cultivation supplies as well as growth patterns of the plant. I understand that CFL's are not ideal but I am looking to grow for myself and I simply can't afford the hid lighting and all of the extra components necessary to run those lights right now- I need to make a fully informed decision regarding hid vs led etc- so for now at least for this grow and probably the next one- CFL will be all I can work with but I am totally open to NAY and ALL information you guys have to give.

I think my main questions are:

What do you think of the look of the plant in terms of size, color, overall health?

Should I take a bunch of clones and throw this baby in the trunk to keep as a mother?

What do you think I can expect in terms of harvest?

Should I leave the lights/ add more/ take some out?

When do I know that it's time to flower?

TLDR: got a clone- fumbled my way through the first month, what do you think about the look of the plant and do you have any suggestions?

Hey thanks for making it through this post! Any information or guidence would be really appreciated! <3

Phoenixfyer said:

Hey there!
A little about me:
Veteran smoker but when it comes to cultivation I am a total newb. I came into a clone and have been scrambling for information and resources ever since. I can get a little overwhelmed with depression and anxiety so having something to take care of is really helping bring focus to my days (I was laid off in April and idle hands are not good for me). Due to the sheer volume of information out there I figured it might help to rope some folks in to take a look at my girl and tell me what they think or give some friendly advice to a gal

A little about my plant/set up:
Strain: White Widow
Tent: 32x32x63
Lights: CFL's (I know, I know)

Timeline:

5/18- clone was gifted to me out of nowhere- got a bunch of houselights together and left it under those 24hrs/day for 2 days while I gathered some info.

5/20- Gutted an old steamer trunk I found and turned it into a grow box, lined with foil, cut out an exhaust hole for small fan, threw up 4-100w output 6500k lights and another small fan

5/21- really didn't like the soil quality or size pot, so I mixed up my own soil with some pebbles, organic potting mix, worm castings from my worm farm, and some sand. tested PH was 6 so I left it. topped the little girl a bit (just from my previous houseplant experience- at this point I didn't know anything about hst,lst or scrogging)

6/7 - transplanted again, into a 5gal fabric growbag. tied large stems and pinned down near sides of bag to get max light penetration

6/13- Grow tent came in (32x32x63) set up, threw plant in there with my lights and fans

*watered when it was needed with diluted Neptune's Harvest I had lying around. Ordered some FoxFarm GrowBig and Big Bloom but my feeding schedule is obviously out of whack at this point. When GB and BB
came in mixed per directions and fed every other watering. Got some PH up and Down and tested nutes in distilled water and adjusted PH.

6/18 Made a ridiculously amateur light fixture to add more light. My girl is bushy af but I know I made some big mistakes along the way. Ordered humidity/thermostat should be here in a few days- overall good air circulation and humidity doesnt feel high.

current lights in tent:
Eight 100w equiv 6500k 1600 lumen CFLs
Six 60w equiv 2700k 900 lumen CFLs


So, like I said, I came into this clone with absolutely no knowledge or equipment and have just been fumbling my way through it. buying things as I can and hoping for the best while I try to learn as much as I can both about cultivation supplies as well as growth patterns of the plant. I understand that CFL's are not ideal but I am looking to grow for myself and I simply can't afford the hid lighting and all of the extra components necessary to run those lights right now- I need to make a fully informed decision regarding hid vs led etc- so for now at least for this grow and probably the next one- CFL will be all I can work with but I am totally open to NAY and ALL information you guys have to give.

I think my main questions are:

What do you think of the look of the plant in terms of size, color, overall health?

Should I take a bunch of clones and throw this baby in the trunk to keep as a mother?

What do you think I can expect in terms of harvest?

Should I leave the lights/ add more/ take some out?

When do I know that it's time to flower?

TLDR: got a clone- fumbled my way through the first month, what do you think about the look of the plant and do you have any suggestions?

Hey thanks for making it through this post! Any information or guidence would be really appreciated! <3

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She looks OK .bit of yellowing at one point maybe nute burn but looks well I grow white widow and have had my fair share of problems with them lol . There in flower now 6weeks and are sticky as hell when u gonna flip them

mr buddy said:

She looks OK .bit of yellowing at one point maybe nute burn but looks well I grow white widow and have had my fair share of problems with them lol . There in flower now 6weeks and are sticky as hell when u gonna flip them

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Hey hey Im not sure when Im not sure when Im going to flower her, honestly. it's been about 4.5 weeks of veg and I might just keep her here for a bit longer because I'd like to get her some time with the new lights I added and maybe snag a clone or two before I switch her.

Looking good. Keeping her in veg longer will likely increase your yields. You're doing quite well for a newbie. Also. I'd swap out those blue heavy bulbs (5000-6500k) to something more reddish when flowering. Look for anything from 2700k to 3500k.

I'm starting a few little plants under cfls myself. They're not bad to grow with. Just not great at getting good amounts of flowers. They'll veg just fine though.

She's looks very happy. Keep up the great work! And your tent give me this vibe like I'm watching a NASA marijuana growing experiment on the international space station. Love it.

Nugachino said:

Looking good. Keeping her in veg longer will likely increase your yields. You're doing quite well for a newbie. Also. I'd swap out those blue heavy bulbs (5000-6500k) to something more reddish when flowering. Look for anything from 2700k to 3500k.

I'm starting a few little plants under cfls myself. They're not bad to grow with. Just not great at getting good amounts of flowers. They'll veg just fine though.

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I wouldn't switch them out. I would add to them for a 50/50 mix of red and blue.

Phoenixfyer said:

Hey there!
A little about me:
Veteran smoker but when it comes to cultivation I am a total newb. I came into a clone and have been scrambling for information and resources ever since. I can get a little overwhelmed with depression and anxiety so having something to take care of is really helping bring focus to my days (I was laid off in April and idle hands are not good for me). Due to the sheer volume of information out there I figured it might help to rope some folks in to take a look at my girl and tell me what they think or give some friendly advice to a gal

A little about my plant/set up:
Strain: White Widow
Tent: 32x32x63
Lights: CFL's (I know, I know)

Timeline:

5/18- clone was gifted to me out of nowhere- got a bunch of houselights together and left it under those 24hrs/day for 2 days while I gathered some info.

5/20- Gutted an old steamer trunk I found and turned it into a grow box, lined with foil, cut out an exhaust hole for small fan, threw up 4-100w output 6500k lights and another small fan

5/21- really didn't like the soil quality or size pot, so I mixed up my own soil with some pebbles, organic potting mix, worm castings from my worm farm, and some sand. tested PH was 6 so I left it. topped the little girl a bit (just from my previous houseplant experience- at this point I didn't know anything about hst,lst or scrogging)

6/7 - transplanted again, into a 5gal fabric growbag. tied large stems and pinned down near sides of bag to get max light penetration

6/13- Grow tent came in (32x32x63) set up, threw plant in there with my lights and fans

*watered when it was needed with diluted Neptune's Harvest I had lying around. Ordered some FoxFarm GrowBig and Big Bloom but my feeding schedule is obviously out of whack at this point. When GB and BB
came in mixed per directions and fed every other watering. Got some PH up and Down and tested nutes in distilled water and adjusted PH.

6/18 Made a ridiculously amateur light fixture to add more light. My girl is bushy af but I know I made some big mistakes along the way. Ordered humidity/thermostat should be here in a few days- overall good air circulation and humidity doesnt feel high.

current lights in tent:
Eight 100w equiv 6500k 1600 lumen CFLs
Six 60w equiv 2700k 900 lumen CFLs


So, like I said, I came into this clone with absolutely no knowledge or equipment and have just been fumbling my way through it. buying things as I can and hoping for the best while I try to learn as much as I can both about cultivation supplies as well as growth patterns of the plant. I understand that CFL's are not ideal but I am looking to grow for myself and I simply can't afford the hid lighting and all of the extra components necessary to run those lights right now- I need to make a fully informed decision regarding hid vs led etc- so for now at least for this grow and probably the next one- CFL will be all I can work with but I am totally open to NAY and ALL information you guys have to give.

I think my main questions are:

What do you think of the look of the plant in terms of size, color, overall health?

Should I take a bunch of clones and throw this baby in the trunk to keep as a mother?

What do you think I can expect in terms of harvest?

Should I leave the lights/ add more/ take some out?

When do I know that it's time to flower?

TLDR: got a clone- fumbled my way through the first month, what do you think about the look of the plant and do you have any suggestions?

Hey thanks for making it through this post! Any information or guidence would be really appreciated! <3

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Looks good for a first grow. Use the actual watts when referring to cfl. Those look to be about 23 watt (actual) 100 watt (equivalent). You will want at least 150 actual watts at a minimum when flowering that thing. More would be better.

Your plant is looking great and I dont think that I would remove any lights. When using cfl a good way to prevent a lot of tall leggy growth IS with more light so no, don't remove any. As for flowering, grow your plant as tall and bushy as you like or not just remember that all plants stretch when put into flower so keep in mind that (for example only) a 24" plant can turn into 38" plant when she is done filling out and stretching [give or take]

With what you have in CFL's. Your over half way to a Pretty good LED. I have the 300 and 600. Go on YT and look at some reviews. You doing good on the grow. But after several CFL grows, I wish I would have made the jump sooner. https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B01B4GQ6MO

As another member said you will need red cfl's for flower, the blue is for veg,

Nugachino said:

Looking good. Keeping her in veg longer will likely increase your yields. You're doing quite well for a newbie. Also. I'd swap out those blue heavy bulbs (5000-6500k) to something more reddish when flowering. Look for anything from 2700k to 3500k.

I'm starting a few little plants under cfls myself. They're not bad to grow with. Just not great at getting good amounts of flowers. They'll veg just fine though.

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Yea I think I'm keep her vegging for a few more weeks I'll add in another pack of red spectrums about a week before I flower her.

Johnei said:

She's looks very happy. Keep up the great work! And your tent give me this vibe like I'm watching a NASA marijuana growing experiment on the international space station. Love it.

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I know! lol I may have a highly reflective tent but I stay on that tinfoil like woah

whitebb2727 said:

I wouldn't switch them out. I would add to them for a 50/50 mix of red and blue.

Looks good for a first grow. Use the actual watts when referring to cfl. Those look to be about 23 watt (actual) 100 watt (equivalent). You will want at least 150 actual watts at a minimum when flowering that thing. More would be better.

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So good to know about actual vs equiv, thanks! I added another 2 red spectrums I had kicking around so my total actual wattage is 184w in blue and 112w in red. I will increase the red when I flower. Thanks a lot

Jimmy Sparkle said:

Your plant is looking great and I dont think that I would remove any lights. When using cfl a good way to prevent a lot of tall leggy growth IS with more light so no, don't remove any. As for flowering, grow your plant as tall and bushy as you like or not just remember that all plants stretch when put into flower so keep in mind that (for example only) a 24" plant can turn into 38" plant when she is done filling out and stretching [give or take]

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I sure hope she stretches out, im really excited to watch the changing growth when I switch her, she is stock af but Id like to think i didnt buy a tent way too tall for what I need

Jypsy Dog said:

With what you have in CFL's. Your over half way to a Pretty good LED. I have the 300 and 600. Go on YT and look at some reviews. You doing good on the grow. But after several CFL grows, I wish I would have made the jump sooner.

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Thanks! That price seems pretty good, actually. ( I went into my local hydroponics superstore and straight off the cuff without really considering what I was saying dude was trying to sell me a $450 cmh.) There is so much back and forth about LED/HID in the forums and on youtube-it can get a little overwhelming tbh. Thanks for the links and the input! I will definitely consider this light

Phoenixfyer said:

So good to know about actual vs equiv, thanks! I added another 2 red spectrums I had kicking around so my total actual wattage is 184w in blue and 112w in red. I will increase the red when I flower. Thanks a lot

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No problem.

I use t5 with mixed spectrum including uv.

First two are autos and the last is a c99.

Jypsy Dog said:

With what you have in CFL's. Your over half way to a Pretty good LED. I have the 300 and 600. Go on YT and look at some reviews. You doing good on the grow. But after several CFL grows, I wish I would have made the jump sooner. https://www.amazon.com/VIPARSPECTRA-Reflector-Spectrum-Indoor-Plants/dp/B01B4GQ6MO

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If going led I would just go cob. Just as cheap and better. Not saying your light doesn't work.

whitebb2727 said:

No problem.

I use t5 with mixed spectrum including uv.
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Drooooooool! pssh and the hydroponics store dude told me that flowering with any kind of fluorescent is not gonna happen.... mmhmm. those look amazing! I haven't tasted any autoflowers I like but I think it's got to do with the dude not curing correctly. Those look wicked sweet!

Phoenixfyer said:

Drooooooool! pssh and the hydroponics store dude told me that flowering with any kind of fluorescent is not gonna happen.... mmhmm. those look amazing! I haven't tasted any autoflowers I like but I think it's got to do with the dude not curing correctly. Those look wicked sweet!

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You can flower with about anything. Its more the grower.

Keep the plants happy and everything else follows.

Remember the hydro guys job is to sell something.

whitebb2727 said:

You can flower with about anything. Its more the grower.

Keep the plants happy and everything else follows.

Remember the hydro guys job is to sell something.

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too true, I'm always hoping people are just being kind and informative- which is usually not the case. whatever I lack in technical knowledge or fancy equipment I probably make up for by just being in tune with my plants development. Are you growing in soil or hydro?