chickens...

OK so, very new to the site. Looking for ideas on chickens and other animals in a "farm setting". Currently I have chicken's, rabbits, dog cats and hampster... I have a general idea on keeping my chicks warm and entertained during the winter. My cats and dog do"ok" with the rabbits in the house.

Information:
Rabbit's: 2 male
Chicken's: 1 rooster
3 hens. 1 astrolorp, 1 bantam, 1 Americana.
Hampster: female
Cats: male and female (fixed)
Dog: female (fixed)


I would like to own a cow, horse, Turkeys, pigs or any other animals that have a use.

Would like to learn...
Feeding habits. Any ideas on food that would feed multiple animals. For example: I'm currently using apples, corn, sunflower seed carrot mix to feed rabbits and chickens. Also found hamster enjoys similar mix. Along with chicken"pellets" and Rabbit "pellets" individually. The occasional head of lettuce or cabbage is useful for rabbits and chickens. Any thoughts are welcome. Any information is appreciated. Even information on animals not listed would be welcome. Never owned a pig. Haven't had a horse. Never ate a rabbit. Open to new experience in home self sufficient atmosphere.
 

iHearAll

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i have sime fermented animal feed recipes. the point in feeding animals fermented food the nutrient content is more readily available by result of bacterial take over. but good bacteria, essentially husky bob slead style feed. anyway you'll need to learn to use microorganisms. fun shit tbh. im real couch locked at the moment though lmao
 

farmerfischer

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i have sime fermented animal feed recipes. the point in feeding animals fermented food the nutrient content is more readily available by result of bacterial take over. but good bacteria, essentially husky bob slead style feed. anyway you'll need to learn to use microorganisms. fun shit tbh. im real couch locked at the moment though lmao
Do share.. Please!!
 

iHearAll

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ok then! This is a teen/adult feed and should not replace their ability to hunt for insects, small reptiles and amphibians.. It is to be fermented for two weeks prior to feeding. Sits in at 18-20% crude protein.

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2 kilo childrens vitamen grade rice bran (14% crude protien)
2 kilo copra meal (or 22% crude protien replacement as copra is not readily available in all parts of the world. or affordably available)
2 kilo corn grits (7% crude protien)
2 kilo hog feed (50 kilo rice bran, 7 kilo copra meal, 15 kilo chopped vegetables) (14% crude protien)
.02 kilo livestock lime
.02 kilo rock DUST mineral (like azomite or DIY)
.03 kilo fine ground charcoal
.2 kilo fish silage (fish meal works too but the salt content should be observed) (33% crude protien)
100mL EMe
100mL molasses
 

farmerfischer

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ok then! This is a teen/adult feed and should not replace their ability to hunt for insects, small reptiles and amphibians.. It is to be fermented for two weeks prior to feeding. Sits in at 18-20% crude protein.

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2 kilo childrens vitamen grade rice bran (14% crude protien)
2 kilo copra meal (or 22% crude protien replacement as copra is not readily available in all parts of the world. or affordably available)
2 kilo corn grits (7% crude protien)
2 kilo hog feed (50 kilo rice bran, 7 kilo copra meal, 15 kilo chopped vegetables) (14% crude protien)
.02 kilo livestock lime
.02 kilo rock DUST mineral (like azomite or DIY)
.03 kilo fine ground charcoal
.2 kilo fish silage (fish meal works too but the salt content should be observed) (33% crude protien)
100mL EMe
100mL molasses
What's Eme?
 

iHearAll

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What's Eme?
there's a product called EM-1 by teraganix. It is a concentrate of dormant bacteria strains. This product can be cultured into many new bottles of equal concentration as the mother EM-1 bottle. These new bottles are referred to as EMe for EM extended. This is what is used to safely ferment the chicken feed without putrefying. It is similar to yogurt making, beer brewing, pickling, or kimchi making.

To make a bottle of EMe you need a bottle of EM1 and agricultural molasses, as well as a liter of nonchlorinated water. Mix 2 tsp of EM-1 and 2 tsp of molasses into the liter of water. Bottle it, label it, and date the bottle. Wait one week for the bottle to ferment. It will produce CO2 and should be burped at least once during the week of fermentation. Do not use a bottle or container with too much headd space of air as it will fail to be anaerobic and pathogens will survive. Only culture EMe from EM-1 and do not attempt to culture EMe from EMe because you will only isolate lactobacillus. The mother bottle of EM-1 contains many strains of bacteria that are not listed on the label. For instance purple sulfur bacteria, and phototropic strains.
 

iHearAll

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you can also use EMe to make plant extract fertilizers, bokashi (granular bacteria substrate), increase worm health, foliar spray for powdery mildew and increase CO2 production on the leaf surface (although the amounts are likely negligible), add to compost teas for soil health, drink it straight for gut health (like eating yogurt i drink EMe made from food grade molasses in a sterile container with sterile water)
 

farmerfischer

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there's a product called EM-1 by teraganix. It is a concentrate of dormant bacteria strains. This product can be cultured into many new bottles of equal concentration as the mother EM-1 bottle. These new bottles are referred to as EMe for EM extended. This is what is used to safely ferment the chicken feed without putrefying. It is similar to yogurt making, beer brewing, pickling, or kimchi making.

To make a bottle of EMe you need a bottle of EM1 and agricultural molasses, as well as a liter of nonchlorinated water. Mix 2 tsp of EM-1 and 2 tsp of molasses into the liter of water. Bottle it, label it, and date the bottle. Wait one week for the bottle to ferment. It will produce CO2 and should be burped at least once during the week of fermentation. Do not use a bottle or container with too much headd space of air as it will fail to be anaerobic and pathogens will survive. Only culture EMe from EM-1 and do not attempt to culture EMe from EMe because you will only isolate lactobacillus. The mother bottle of EM-1 contains many strains of bacteria that are not listed on the label. For instance purple sulfur bacteria, and phototropic strains.
Thank you!Good to know. So this product is a must have..I suppose if I wasn't so lazy I could of looked it up..lol.. bongsmilie
 

iHearAll

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Thank you!Good to know. So this product is a must have..I suppose if I wasn't so lazy I could of looked it up..lol.. bongsmilie
i think so. careful who you mention it to lol. Many members trash talk this stuff like it's nobody's bussiness. The rep "unconventional farmer's" lactoserum because it is generally cheaper. But from observation it is just a big ol culture of lactobacillus and yeast. So, i mean it works too. I wouldnt feed it to animals or drink it myself but anywho it seems like fun to make as well. Should you ever go the EM1 route ill be happy to assist you with TEK details creative ideas!
cheers, P
 

cat of curiosity

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there's a product called EM-1 by teraganix. It is a concentrate of dormant bacteria strains. This product can be cultured into many new bottles of equal concentration as the mother EM-1 bottle. These new bottles are referred to as EMe for EM extended. This is what is used to safely ferment the chicken feed without putrefying. It is similar to yogurt making, beer brewing, pickling, or kimchi making.

To make a bottle of EMe you need a bottle of EM1 and agricultural molasses, as well as a liter of nonchlorinated water. Mix 2 tsp of EM-1 and 2 tsp of molasses into the liter of water. Bottle it, label it, and date the bottle. Wait one week for the bottle to ferment. It will produce CO2 and should be burped at least once during the week of fermentation. Do not use a bottle or container with too much headd space of air as it will fail to be anaerobic and pathogens will survive. Only culture EMe from EM-1 and do not attempt to culture EMe from EMe because you will only isolate lactobacillus. The mother bottle of EM-1 contains many strains of bacteria that are not listed on the label. For instance purple sulfur bacteria, and phototropic strains.
i feed winter rye, cracked corn, and light scratch to future rotisserie style birds during winter. they don't get too fatty, and don't seem to bitch about it too much...
 

iHearAll

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i feed winter rye, cracked corn, and light scratch to future rotisserie style birds during winter. they don't get too fatty, and don't seem to bitch about it too much...
yea the concept i've noticed is really making sure they have a proper amount of proteins, carbs, and trace elements. the charcoal is to elongate their intestines to allows for greater digestion time. Make them happy enough to go hunting for pests lol
 

NaturalFarmer

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I love chickens! This is my go to mother of my flock with her last batch of survivors! Speaking turkey, are you comfortable killing a large bird? I raised Broad Breasted Bronze this past summer and they got so large (45-50lbs) that I would recommend skipping such a large turkey and go for a Royal Palm or a Narraganset unless you have help. The BBB taste so F'in good though. IMG_20161017_173300.jpg
 

cindysid

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I love chickens too! I've always kept chickens, as well as ducks, guineas, pheasants, quail, peafowl, and just about any kind of domesticated bird, but never a turkey. My neighbor has one though. It is pretty aggressive and kinda freaks me out. I think I could kill it...
 
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