China & Russia, What does it mean for U.S.A

The Amazing Couchlock

The Amazing Couchlock

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Please tell me, I just read that they struck a very nice energy deal and there are a lot of people walking around town talking about how its the end of the world. Why is this?
 
DonAlejandroVega

DonAlejandroVega

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Rob Roy said:
They may start a trend to stop using the USA currency. When that happens there will be no more penny candy and coke won't cost a dime anymore.
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both countries do indeed have large gold supplies; a yuan, backed by gold would collapse the dollar. chaos in the US ensues, Chinese "peace-keepers" from the UN, to "assist" us, in our time of trouble...........
 
killemsoftly

killemsoftly

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The Amazing Couchlock said:
Please tell me, I just read that they struck a very nice energy deal and there are a lot of people walking around town talking about how its the end of the world. Why is this?
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I caught that article.
The Russians have impressive amounts of nat gas and oil. They did a deal with the Chinese to supply them with enough nat gas for about 30% of their energy needs. China has a real issue with energy. They desperately need it. This doesn't go 'online' for a few years.

Energy is the 'carb' of any economy. The U.S. is not an exporter of energy. Energy economics is complex. I'm sure their are implications for several economies but it starts to become a complex multi-variable analysis that could easily lead to sleepless nights and twitching. Don't go there.

Don't worry. Your no.1.
[I watched all sorts of babble about the japanese back in the day. Rest assured, China is not stable long-term and will experience significant social problems. I expect to see this play out even more over the next decade. The people who worry me are the Russians and their 'great russia' bs.]
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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killemsoftly said:
I caught that article.
The Russians have impressive amounts of nat gas and oil. They did a deal with the Chinese to supply them with enough nat gas for about 30% of their energy needs. China has a real issue with energy. They desperately need it. This doesn't go 'online' for a few years.

Energy is the 'carb' of any economy. The U.S. is not an exporter of energy. Energy economics is complex. I'm sure their are implications for several economies but it starts to become a complex multi-variable analysis that could easily lead to sleepless nights and twitching. Don't go there.

Don't worry. Your no.1.
[I watched all sorts of babble about the japanese back in the day. Rest assured, China is not stable long-term and will experience significant social problems. I expect to see this play out even more over the next decade. The people who worry me are the Russians and their 'great russia' bs.]
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The US is one of the worlds largest oil exporters, genius.

The reason it was an issue was because it may cause supply disruptions in Europe, because in a crisis, the supply may be diverted to China instead of Europe.

Russia also said it would need the Ukraine to start paying in advance for oil and gas, the very same oil and gas that runs straight into Europe, due to the Ukraine owing them somewhere in the tune of 4 billion Euro and being late on payment.

Sorry Americans, nothing to do with you...but keep trying to make it about you, its cute watching you's realise that most of the world's population actually lives outside your borders.
 
killemsoftly

killemsoftly

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Harrekin said:
The US is one of the worlds largest oil exporters, genius.
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3rd largest producer by 2013 estimates (8.5 million/bl/day).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production
Largest consumer: 18.8 million/bl/day by 2011 estimates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption

Net importer, genius.
They are approaching 70% on over-all energy independence.
btw: wiki is a secondary source, their lists are from data on the CIA site; they may be pricks but they're well respected on data..
 
bu$hleaguer

bu$hleaguer

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Harrekin said:
The US is one of the worlds largest oil exporters, genius.

The reason it was an issue was because it may cause supply disruptions in Europe, because in a crisis, the supply may be diverted to China instead of Europe.

Russia also said it would need the Ukraine to start paying in advance for oil and gas, the very same oil and gas that runs straight into Europe, due to the Ukraine owing them somewhere in the tune of 4 billion Euro and being late on payment.

Sorry Americans, nothing to do with you...but keep trying to make it about you, its cute watching you's realise that most of the world's population actually lives outside your borders.
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It's cute watching you again prove that you're an asshole.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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killemsoftly said:
3rd largest producer by 2013 estimates (8.5 million/bl/day).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_production
Largest consumer: 18.8 million/bl/day by 2011 estimates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_consumption

Net importer, genius.
They are approaching 70% on over-all energy independence.
btw: wiki is a secondary source, their lists are from data on the CIA site; they may be pricks but they're well respected on data..
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I aint the one selling your country's oil, so you can buy it back again using the funny money printed by your Govt, perpetuating the myth that the US dollah is actually worth something.

You wont even get sucky sucky for fly dollah anymore...
 
killemsoftly

killemsoftly

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Harrekin said:
I aint the one selling your country's oil, so you can buy it back again using the funny money printed by your Govt, perpetuating the myth that the US dollah is actually worth something.
You wont even get sucky sucky for fly dollah anymore...
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I'm a colonial not an American. We sell them oil so we are a beneficiary of Pax Americana. We sink with them alas.
The bilderberg/NWO is well entrenched here. Can't discuss further. Need to stay off the list.
 
kmog33

kmog33

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killemsoftly said:
I'm a colonial not an American. We sell them oil so we are a beneficiary of Pax Americana. We sink with them alas.
The bilderberg/NWO is well entrenched here. Can't discuss further. Need to stay off the list.
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Good point. Unfortunately a lot would sink with the U.S. it's called global economics and im pretty sure the us is a fairly large investor in several other nations economies such as china, europe, japan, mexico, and a few other large exporters. And if the us stopped paying for cheap work in some of those countries or stopped buying oil or other exports from others, their economies would also crash so its not like the us isnt connected to almost every other large economy on the planet and is going down on its own lol.

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killemsoftly

killemsoftly

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kmog33 said:
Good point. Unfortunately a lot would sink with the U.S. it's called global economics and im pretty sure the us is a fairly large investor in several other nations economies such as china, europe, japan, mexico, and a few other large exporters. And if the us stopped paying for cheap work in some of those countries or stopped buying oil or other exports from others, their economies would also crash so its not like the us isnt connected to almost every other large economy on the planet and is going down on its own lol.

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Globalization. We're all so deeply interconnected now. Modern telecom, stock markets, media, energy, food.
 
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