Clinton's Latest Glow Job ...

ViRedd

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CLINTON'S LATEST GLOW JOB
by Ann Coulter
October 11, 2006

With the Democrats' full-throated moralizing of late, I'm almost tempted to vote for them — although perhaps "full-throated" is the wrong phrase to use with regard to Democrats and sex scandals. The sudden emergence of the Swift Butt Veterans for Truth demonstrates that the Democrats would prefer to talk about anything other than national security.

Unfortunately for them, the psychotic Kim Jong Il seems to be setting off nukes, raising the embarrassing issue of the Clinton administration's 1994 "peace" deal with North Korea.

At least with former Rep. Mark Foley, you could say the Democrats' hypocritical grandstanding was just politics. But in the case of North Korea, Democrats are resorting to bald-faced lies.

Current New Mexico governor and former Clinton administration official Bill Richardson has been on tour, bragging about the groundbreaking Clinton administration negotiations with North Korea — keeping his fingers crossed that no one has access to news from 1994.

In 1994, the Clinton administration got a call from Jimmy Carter — probably collect — who was with the then-leader of North Korea, saying: "Hey, Kim Il Sung is a total stud, and I've worked out a terrific deal. I'll give you the details later."

Clinton promptly signed the deal, so he could forget about North Korea and get back to cheating on Hillary. Mission accomplished.

Under the terms of the "agreed framework," we gave North Korea all sorts of bribes — more than $5 billion worth of oil, two nuclear reactors and lots of high technology. In return, they took the bribes and kept building nukes. This wasn't difficult, inasmuch as the 1994 deal permitted the North Koreans to evade weapons inspectors for the next five years.

Yes, you read that right: North Korea promised not to develop nukes, and we showed how much we trusted them by agreeing to no weapons inspections for five years.

The famed "allies," whom liberals claim they are so interested in pleasing, went ballistic at this cave-in to North Korea. Japan and South Korea — actual allies, unlike France and Germany — were furious. Even Hans Blix thought we were being patsies.

If you need any more evidence that it was a rotten deal, The New York Times hailed it as "a resounding triumph."

At the time, people like William Safire were screaming from the rooftops that allowing North Korea to escape weapons inspections for five years would "preclude a pre-emptive strike by us if North Korea, in the next U.S. president's administration, breaks its agreement to freeze additional bomb-making."

And then on Oct. 17, 2002 — under a new administration, you'll note — The New York Times reported on the front page, so you couldn't have missed it: "Confronted by new American intelligence, North Korea has admitted that it has been conducting a major clandestine nuclear weapons development program for the past several years."

So when it comes to North Korea, I believe the Democrats might want to maintain a discreet silence, lest anyone ask, "Hey, did you guys do anything with North Korea?"

But by Richardson's lights, the only reason Kim Jong Il is testing nukes is because Bush called him evil. He said, "When you call him axis of evil or a tyrant, you know, he just goes crazy." This is the sort of idiocy you expect to hear from an illiterate like Keith Olbermann, not someone who might know people who read newspapers.

Richardson also blames the war in Iraq, bleating that the poor North Koreans feel "that there's too much attention on the Middle East, on Iraq. So it's a cry for attention." If Kim just wanted our attention, he could have started dating Lindsay Lohan. But Richardson says Kim "psychologically feels he's been dissed, that he's not treated with respect."

Damn that Bush! If only he had ignored the crazy Muslims and dedicated himself into sending flowers (and more nuclear reactors!) to North Korea, we could be actively helping Kim develop his nukes like the Clinton administration did.

As Richardson said, Kim "wants us to negotiate with him directly, as we did in the Clinton administration."

To go on TV and propose negotiating with North Korea like Clinton did without ever mentioning that North Korea cheated on that agreement before the ink was dry would be like denouncing American aggression against Japan in 1942 and neglecting to mention Pearl Harbor. Anyone who is either that stupid or that disingenuous should not be allowed on TV.

When pressed by CNN's Anderson Cooper about the failed deal, Richardson lied, claiming the 1994 deal prevented the North Koreans from building nukes "for eight years" — i.e., right up until the day The New York Times reported the North Koreans had been developing nukes "for the past several years."

Kim is crazier than any leader even South America has been able to produce. In fact, he's so crazy, we might be able to get the Democrats to take action. Someone tell Nancy Pelosi that the "Dear Leader" is an actual pederast. Then we'll at least be able to read his instant messages.

COPYRIGHT 2006 ANN COULTER
 

Resinman

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Hello Vi Redd,,,,so we meet again my friend,,,,,

As i stated long ago,,,,Ann is getting real desperate,,,well,,,she always has been desperate,,,,,she has lowered herself to Historical Fiction,,,

We must ALL remember that it was George Bush Junior that allowed us to be attacked,,,

Resinman



Since the 1950s, the DPRK has been proceeding with a nuclear development program. It seems that North Korea is engaged in one of two things. Either they are building weapons to give them up for a new relationship with the United States. Or the down side and very dangerous side is that they're trying to build-up a nuclear arsenal for deterrence.
Some observers call it "diplomacy by extortion." They say the communist north is building atomic weapons in order to secure economic aid and special trade agreements with its neighbors and the West in exchange for curtailing its nuclear weapons program.
Pyongyang maintains that it needs a deterrent to possible South Korean, Japanese and American military aggression against North Korea. But this argument has lost its credibility. The north has always argued that while they're interested in economic reform, they need to leverage the security threat because they're not certain that the intentions of the rest of the world are really benign in terms of negotiating with North Korea. The problem, though, is that since 1994 there is a record of engagement with North Korea by South Korean, Japan, the United States, Europe and Australia. It would be very difficult to survey all of these countries that have engaged North Korea and argue that they have not credibly communicated that their intentions are benign. So this argument that the north continues to put forward, while it still may be credible to them, is becoming less credible to the rest of the world.
The nuclear program can be traced back to about 1962, when the DPRK government committed itself to what it called "all-fortressization," which was the beginning of the hyper militarized North Korea of today. In the mid-1960s, it established a large-scale atomic energy research complex in Yongbyon and trained specialists from students who had studied in the Soviet Union. Under the cooperation agreement concluded between the USSR and the DPRK, a nuclear research center was constructed near the small town of Yongbyon. In 1965 a Soviet IRT-2M research reactor was assembled for this center. From 1965 through 1973 fuel (fuel elements) enriched to 10 percent was supplied to the DPRK for this reactor.
North Korea maintains uranium mines with four million tons of exploitable high-quality uranium.
In the 1970s, it focused study on the nuclear fuel cycle including refining, conversion and fabrication. In 1974, Korean specialists independently modernized Soviet IRT-2M research reactor in the same way that other reactors operating in the USSR and other countries had been modernized, bringing its capacity up to 8 megawatts and switching to fuel enriched to 80 percent. Subsequently, the degree of fuel enrichment was reduced. In the same period the DPRK began to build a 5 MWe research reactor, what is called the "second reactor." In 1977 the DPRK concluded an agreement with the International Atomic Energy Agency [IAEA], allowing the latter to inspect a research reactor which was built with the assistance of the USSR.
The North Korean nuclear weapons program dates back to the 1980s. In the 1980s, focusing on practical uses of nuclear energy and the completion of a nuclear weapon development system, North Korea began to operate facilities for uranium fabrication and conversion. It began construction of a 200 MWe nuclear reactor and nuclear reprocessing facilities in Taechon and Yongbyon, respectively, and conducted high-explosive detonation tests. In 1985 US officials announced for the first time that they had intelligence data proving that a secret nuclear reactor was being built 90 km north of Pyongyang near the small town of Yongbyon. The installation at Yongbyon had been known for eight years from official IAEA reports. In 1985, under international pressure, Pyongyang acceded to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). However, the DPRK refused to sign a safeguards agreement with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), an obligation it had as a party to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty.
In September 1989 the magazine JANE'S DEFENCE WEEKLY stated that North Korea "could manufacture nuclear devices in five years' time, and the means to deliver them soon afterward." In July 1990 THE WASHINGTON POST reported that new satellite photographs showed the presence in Yongbyon of a structure which could possibly be used to separate plutonium from nuclear fuel.
The Joint Declaration on denuclearization was initialed on December 31, 1991. It forbade both sides to test, manufacture, produce, receive, possess, store, deploy, or use nuclear weapons and forbade the possession of nuclear reprocessing and uranium enrichment facilities. A procedure for inter-Korean inspection was to be organized and a North-South Joint Nuclear Control Commission (JNCC) was mandated with verification of the denuclearization of the peninsula.
On January 30, 1992, the DPRK also signed a nuclear safeguards agreement with the IAEA, as it had pledged to do in 1985 when acceding to the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. This safeguards agreement allowed IAEA inspections to begin in June 1992. In March 1992, the JNCC was established in accordance with the joint declaration, but subsequent meetings failed to reach agreement on the main issue of establishing a bilateral inspection regime. As the 1990s progressed, concern over the North's nuclear program became a major issue in North-South relations and between North Korea and the US. The lack of progress on implementation of the joint nuclear declaration's provision for an inter-Korean nuclear inspection regime led to reinstatement of the US-South Korea Team Spirit military exercise for 1993. The situation worsened rapidly when North Korea, in January 1993, refused IAEA access to two suspected nuclear waste sites and then announced in March 1993 its intent to withdraw from the NPT. During the next 2 years, the US held direct talks with the DPRK that resulted in a series of agreements on nuclear matters.
 

Resinman

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- 1994: North Korea, United States sign agreement in Geneva, North pledges to freeze, eventually dismantle, nuclear weapons program in exchange for help building two power-producing nuclear reactors.

- Sept. 17, 1999: U.S. President Bill Clinton agrees to first major easing of economic sanctions against North Korea since Korean War's end in 1953.

- July 2000: North Korea threatens to restart nuclear program if Washington does not compensate for loss of electricity due to delays in building nuclear power plants.

- June 2001: North Korea warns it will reconsider missile test moratorium if Washington doesn't resume contacts aimed at normalizing relations.

- July 2001: U.S. State Department reports North Korea developing long-range missile.

- December 2001: President Bush warns Iraq and North Korea will be "held accountable" if they develop weapons of mass destruction.

- Jan. 29, 2002: Bush labels North Korea, Iran and Iraq an "axis of evil."

- Oct. 4, 2002: North Korea tells visiting U.S. delegation it has a second covert nuclear weapons program, Washington says.

- Nov. 11, 2002: U.S. and key Asian allies - Japan, South Korea - halt oil supplies to North promised in 1994 deal.

- Jan. 10, 2003: North Korea says it will withdraw from Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty.

- April 16, 2003: U.S., Chinese and North Korean officials announce talks in Beijing aimed at ending nuclear standoff.

- April 24, 2003: North Korea says it has nuclear weapons and may test, export or use them depending on U.S. actions, Washington says.

- Aug. 27-29, 2003: North Korea joins first round of six-nation nuclear talks in Beijing, which include China, U.S. Japan, Russia and South Korea.

- Feb. 25-28, 2004: Second round of six-nation talks.

- June 23-26, 2004: Third round of six-nation talks.

- September 2004: North Korea refuses to attend fourth round talks, accusing U.S. of "hostile" policies.

- Feb. 10, 2005: North Korea announces it has nuclear weapons.

- July 26, 2005: Fourth round of six-nation talks begins, ends in recess after 13 days with no agreement.

- Sept. 13, 2005: Talks resume.

- Sept. 15, 2005: U.S. blacklists a Macau-based bank for alleged involvement in North Korea's illicit activity such as money laundering and counterfeiting, leads the bank to freeze North Korean assets.

- Sept. 19, 2005: North Korea pledges to dismantle nuclear programs in exchange for pledges of energy assistance; U.S. pledges not to invade and to respect North's sovereignty in an agreement ending talks.

- Nov. 9-11, 2005: Fifth round of six-nation talks.

- Jan. 3, 2006: North Korea says it won't return to talks unless the U.S. lifts financial restrictions imposed for its alleged currency counterfeiting and other illegal activities.

- March 7: North Korean, U.S. officials meet in New York for talks over U.S. financial restrictions.

- July 5: North Korea launches seven missiles into the Sea of Japan, including a long-range Taepodong-2, drawing international condemnation an a later U.N. Security Council resolution condemning it.

- Sept. 26: North Korea rejects further talks on its nuclear program, claims Washington wants to rule the world.

- Oct. 3: North Korea says it will conduct a nuclear test in the face of what it claimed was "the U.S. extreme threat of a nuclear war."

- Oct. 9: North Koreas says it has conducted its first-ever nuclear test.
 

ViRedd

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In spite of N. Korea's record of not keeping agreements, Clinton does this ...

- Sept. 17, 1999: U.S. President Bill Clinton agrees to first major easing of economic sanctions against North Korea since Korean War's end in 1953.

Bush does this ...

- December 2001: President Bush warns Iraq and North Korea will be "held accountable" if they develop weapons of mass destruction.

And you say this ...

"We must ALL remember that it was George Bush Junior that allowed us to be attacked,,,"

How does this compute??

Vi












 

medicinaluseonly

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Any one can come up with "facts" from any perspective. Heres the real deal. G.W. took his eye off N.Korea when he decided to unilaterally attack Iraq, and N. Korea seeing this attack as threatening, decided to hurry up their nuke program as a deterrant. Thats the simple explanation and the truth. Blame it on who you must, but thats what happened. Maybe we can blame it on Truman, Or Eisenhower, maybe JFK, Johnson who knows, maybe it's Fords fault, Nixon maybe, I know I'm sure it's Ronald Reagans fault, Be real, They didn't have a bomb untill Bush was in office because he was so engaged in destroying Iraq he didn't have a clue what the N. Koreans were doing. The U.S. Govt. goes around the world Handing out money and barking orders so the corporations can get richer and contribute more money to the politicians. Why would a candidate for congress spend 20 million bucks to get a 250,000 a year job? A puzzeling idea!
 

Resinman

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Vi redd

Hey man,,you just do not get it,,,

North Korea has had the bomb since 1991 or 1992,,,,

clinton cut the deal with them,,,since Bush senior and reagan screwed up

your time line is way out of whack


resinman

more historical fiction,,,from ann coulter
 

Resinman

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In addition, Rumsfeld lied about his involvement in a project that provided North Korea with nuclear reactors:
"Not only was Donald Rumsfeld a director of ABB, the Swiss firm hired by Kim Jong Il to build nuclear reactors in North Korea, but he may also have sought Washington's help to secure the contract for the construction conglomerate. In the current issue of Fortune, Richard Behar closely scrutinizes Rumsfeld's role in the North Korean nuke deal. What he discovered demolishes the rote denials served up by Pentagon spokeswoman Torie Clarke, who has told reporters that her boss 'does not recall' any discussion of the $200 million project while he sat on the ABB board."​
Enter the Reverend Sun Myung Moon... and evidence that the administration's tough talk and intimidation are easily cured by a little financial incentives and ideological support
"Bush's choice of Donald Rumsfeld to be U.S. defense secretary could put an unintended spotlight on the role of the Rev. Sun Myung Moon -- a Bush family benefactor -- in funneling millions of dollars to communist North Korea in the 1990s as it was developing a missile and nuclear weapons program... In 1998, Rumsfeld headed a special commission... that warned that North Korea had made substantial progress during the decade in building missiles that could pose a potential nuclear threat to Japan and parts of the United States... Yet, during the early-to-mid 1990s, the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency was monitoring a series of clandestine payments from Sun Myung Moon's organization to the North Korean communist leaders who were overseeing the country's military strategies... Republicans have used Rumsfeld's report to club President Clinton and Vice President Gore for alleged softness toward a recalcitrant communist enemy."​
Even Bush insiders were slamming the Bush Administration's approach to Pyongyang, citing a 'drive by' approach to diplomacy that was doomed to fail.
"A former key US State Department official involved in North Korean nuclear talks has attacked the Bush Administration, saying that unless its approach to negotiations is rethought, any prospect of success is 'very grim'. Charles Pritchard said the US must drop its opposition to one-on-one talks with North Korea and begin a 'serious and sustained dialogue' to try to defuse the crisis. Pritchard embarrassed the Bush Administration by resigning on the eve of the six-way talks on the Korean crisis in Beijing in late August.... Pritchard said he supported the US strategy of initiating multilateral talks with North and South Korea, China, Russia and Japan. But, he said, these could not achieve an outcome unless the US also opened bilateral talks with the North to address the security issues between the two countries.... 'We've got to get serious about this, rather than drive-by meetings that occur where we roll down the window and wave to the North Koreans and move on,' Pritchard said."​
The Bush administration announced that it will release $95m to North Korea as part of an agreement to replace North Korea's own nuclear program, despite the fact that the US suspected Pyongyang of misusing the program.
"Under the 1994 Agreed Framework an international consortium is building two proliferation-proof nuclear reactors and providing fuel oil for North Korea while the reactors are being built. In releasing the funding, George W Bush waived the Framework's requirement that North Korea allow inspectors to ensure it has not hidden away any weapons-grade plutonium from the original reactors. Bush argued that the decision was 'vital to the national security interests of the United States.'"​
It's not clear why the administration cleared these funds despite the fact that they "long deemed the North Korean regime as untrustworthy".



Bush discovered that North Korea received nuclear weapons technology (probably centrifuges) from Pakistan.
Step 7) - 11/01/2001
The first Bombshell:
"In November 2001... the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory... concluded that North Korea had begun construction of a plant to enrich uranium that could be used in nuclear weapons... The findings meant that North Korea was secretly circumventing a 1994 agreement with the US in which it promised to freeze a nuclear weapons program... Although the report was hand-delivered to senior Bush administration officials, 'no one focused on it because of 9/11' ... These findings were confirmed in a June 2002 National Intelligence Estimate, a major assessment by the CIA and all other intelligence agencies. These reports are part of a complex and hidden trail of intelligence about the North Korean effort that has raised questions about why the Bush administration waited until early October 2002 to confront officials in the capital, Pyongyang, with the intelligence - and to go public several weeks later - when details had been accumulating for more than two years."​
http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2006/10/10/14534/081
 

Resinman

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Step 24) - 01/15/2003
The Bush Administration insists they discovered North Korea's secret centrifuge uranium-enrichment program in 2002, before Asst. Sec. of State Jim Kelly visited the country. But, according to the Clinton administration, the Bush administration knew of the information long before that.
"Former Clinton Administration officials are saying this was known about in 1999 and 2000 and that they briefed the incoming Bush administration officials on this in January 2001... The administration's claim seems even more strained given the fact that this unclassified (i.e., public) CIA report to Congress, covering the second half of 2001, states... 'During this time frame, Pyongyang has continued attempts to procure technology worldwide that could have applications in its nuclear program. The North has been seeking centrifuge-related materials in large quantities to support a uranium enrichment program. It also obtained equipment suitable for use in uranium feed and withdrawal systems.'"



The desperate lies from ann coulter have been clearly made ,,,,just read the historical truth,,

and listen to the lies from the republicans,,,she is anti american as bill orielley is

spin city


resinman
 

skunkushybrid

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Now I don't mind you guys calling each other names but there's no reason to bring historical fiction into the fray.

I've enjoyed Bernard Cornwell's books for years and have learned loads about the Napoleonic wars, the saxons, normans and also of the Knights Templar. He even tried a King Arthur follow up to the original, but in my opinion he failed because I could only read 160 pages before finally putting it down in defeat.

Anyway, historical fiction is very informative and an enjoyable way to learn of our great history.

"Live long, and prosper." Mr. Spock, Star Trek, 196... who gives a fuck.
 

medicinaluseonly

Well-Known Member
How did that bitch Ann Coulter get in this thread anyway, She froths at the mouth when the word liberal is bandied about. She is about as smart as a rock. Now you've done it, you've pushed my hate button. I hate very few people but Ann Coulter tops the list!
 

ViRedd

New Member
*lol* ... So you have some strong feelings re: Ms Coulter, eh? All Coulter is/does is the very same thing the radicals in your Democratic Party do, with the exception that she's coming from the other direction.

Besides, I find her "sleaze factor" to be attractive. :hug:

Vi
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Hello skunk

When was there any name calling,,from one member to another,,,

for historys sake

resinman
Hi Resin, I know there was no real name-calling. I just said that I don't mind if you call each other names. Besides a little bit of name-calling certainly livens up a thread.

I imagine also, that American historical fiction would be boring. I've always avoided it.
 

Uncle Ben

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Leave it up to a foreigner to opine on America's biz. Wonder what happened to Vi Redd? Good guy. ;)

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CLINTON'S LATEST GLOW JOB
by Ann Coulter
October 11, 2006

With the Democrats' full-throated moralizing of late, I'm almost tempted to vote for them — although perhaps "full-throated" is the wrong phrase to use with regard to Democrats and sex scandals. The sudden emergence of the Swift Butt Veterans for Truth demonstrates that the Democrats would prefer to talk about anything other than national security.
Funny..... but 9 years later this is even more applicable. Following their leader, Obama, they talk deflections like climate change. No strategy of how to wipe out terrorist groups like ISIS....making deals with folks that hate us and have a caliphate to destroy.
 
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