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since1991

since1991

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genuity said:
Yeah,1000 watt DE with a few 315 is a very nice setup...
Them 600 blues are very good for veg,if you like lots of branching on the plants,I use it in my flower room the last few weeks of 12/12..it's a very "soft" light for flowering..imo.
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How can you get them even remotely close in height to where the lamps to canopy and footprint is optimal? The 315 would have to be much closer to canopy..thus blocking the spread of that 1000 watt DE. No? What am I missing here? Seems a six hundred watt DE would play with a 315 or even a 630 cmh next to it much more nicely. I dunno. Maybe iam all wet on this.
 
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MichiganMedGrower

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since1991 said:
Was that with a single ended sixer? One strain? I uses to hit them numbers with the mogul socket sixers as well..but it was tough and lots of canopy/net trellis training with one strain to hit that. Nice job. Anyone that hits over 17 with a single ended sixer has got shit on point in my opinion. Glass or no glass makes a HUGE difference i have found. If your in the twenties consistently...dont change a thing I say. I sold off my single ended sixers and got a bunch of Gavita 6/750's a few years ago. I can hit 25 to 28 no problem on the 600 watt setting alone now. Much more grower friendly with the double ended lamps. Just gotta control the heat. A mini split ac is pretty much mandatory. But yeah. The double ended are less canopy work as well to hit them numbers. Less Net trellis training and whatnot.
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Yes single ended and in blockbuster glass enclosed air cooled hoods.

And 4 different plants. And different strains and crosses but from seeds I have grown for a couple years perpetually.

No trellis. Just 30" trained bushes.

Looked like this with the 2 600's and 1 315.

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And here is a harvested plant from that time.
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ilovetoskiatalta

ilovetoskiatalta

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Yes single ended and in blockbuster glass enclosed air cooled hoods.

And 4 different plants. And different strains and crosses but from seeds I have grown for a couple years perpetually.

No trellis. Just 30" trained bushes.

Looked like this with the 2 600's and 1 315.

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And here is a harvested plant from that time.
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@MichiganMedGrower are any of those mainlined? What are the lights and the size of the area? Looks like you use 3 gallon fabric or plastic? I did half fabric 3 gallon and half 12" square plastic. I wish i could find deeper fabric pots.
Are you still growing that strain that reminded me of Citral?
Your even canopy is great very nice work :weed:
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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ilovetoskiatalta said:
@MichiganMedGrower are any of those mainlined? What are the lights and the size of the area? Looks like you use 3 gallon fabric or plastic? I did half fabric 3 gallon and half 12" square plastic. I wish i could find deeper fabric pots.
Are you still growing that strain that reminded me of Citral?
Your even canopy is great very nice work :weed:
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Thank you very much. I was workin really hard to keep production high.

And yes 3 gallon go pro plastic nursery pots.

No training in veg unless the plants got too tall for my system then I either too or bend and tie the plants main stem down.

Most are bent around day 7-10 in 12/12 to promote the branching. Then branches are staked and tied down or supercropped as training needs progress.

And the plants are mostly staggered in pairs or a week apart for growth in the pic. So I crop a plant about every week.

The 600's are over a 3.5' x 3.5' area each. 7' x3.5' total. 7 x 4 foot max if necessary.

The 315 only covers 2.5'x2.5' as well.

The plants seemed to have the best growth and buds in the overlap between the 600super hps and the 315 LEC.
 
since1991

since1991

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Anyone got a link posts or threads on the very new double ended cmh lamps from Growers Choice? They got 315..a 630..and 945 watt fixtures.
 
genuity

genuity

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since1991 said:
How can you get them even remotely close in height to where the lamps to canopy and footprint is optimal? The 315 would have to be much closer to canopy..thus blocking the spread of that 1000 watt DE. No? What am I missing here? Seems a six hundred watt DE would play with a 315 or even a 630 cmh next to it much more nicely. I dunno. Maybe iam all wet on this.
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I run all my lights at 18" ... this pic is with just the 315lec litt....nice spread.
But it's only for that center part...
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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genuity said:
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I run all my lights at 18" ... this pic is with just the 315lec litt....nice spread.
But it's only for that center part...
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Just a tip. Those plants are showing heat stress from the lights being too close likely. You can see all the tacoing and edges pointing up. The plants are transpiring too much and trying to retain moisture.

I suggest a few more inches higher for the lights and maybe some circulation fan tweaks.

The leaves should look flat and relaxed. I am a constant adjuster for happy plants.
 
genuity

genuity

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MichiganMedGrower said:
Just a tip. Those plants are showing heat stress from the lights being too close likely. You can see all the tacoing and edges pointing up. The plants are transpiring too much and trying to retain moisture.

I suggest a few more inches higher for the lights and maybe some circulation fan tweaks.

The leaves should look flat and relaxed. I am a constant adjuster for happy plants.
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Them plants did just fine,with no heat stress..
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Just lots of light....good light
 
TheChemist77

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genuity said:
Them plants did just fine,with no heat stress..
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love those beautiful fall colors,, what strain is that??..

ive run lots of supose to be purple strains, the best colors ive seen wher on mellon gum by dr.underground,, purple leaves green bud... ive also had original skunk and northern lights get nice colors in the leaves,,, it seems to ,me i only get colors w/ the flush,, ive tried cool temps, seems like there is no purple buds,, i had 1 purple#1 from bcsc beautiful purple,very purple buds and leaves but very leafy,tiny buds,,small calyx's, few hairs, i wish i had gathered pollen off her and crossed it w a good yield strain...

i just planted almost all my purple seeds,,
bcbd purps reg 10 seeds,, not one plant
8 grand daddy purple reg, all popped 4 up and growing 2 died,2 waiting for them to come up..
5 white lable purple bud,, all popped all died
2 th seeds dark star fems, 1 plant up and growing
2 bcbd ultimate purples reg, 1 up and growing

6 out of 27 so far...seeds are 4 years old but wer kept in fridge w silica,, i know germ rates drop w/ toime but this is crazy...

still have 5 fem grizzly purple kush by blimburn, and 8 seedsman purple bud reg, and 3 ace seeds violletta fem's.. im waiting to pop.. does any body know if the grizzly purple kush is an auto?? it said 8 weeks flowering, but it sais auto by seed sex... auto isnt a sex...i dont grow auto's i wouldnt have bought them if i knew..idk
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Evil-Mobo

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Anyone run the DE 315's from Growers Choice yet?

Also I see that Growers house has a 315 kit for my Daystar hoods with the Phillips bulb. Anyone run this bulb horizontally?

Are there two versions a "vertical" and "horizontal"?
 
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Bad Karma

Bad Karma

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Mr.jojodancer305 said:
I got a question for you guys. I have a 1000watt and a 600,my question is do you think the 315 is worth the money or stick with the high light bill with the 1000?
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A good 315 is worth every penny. I just invested in another Hydrofarm Phantom CMH myself. They're my grow light of choice.
 
MichiganMedGrower

MichiganMedGrower

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Mr.jojodancer305 said:
I got a question for you guys. I have a 1000watt and a 600,my question is do you think the 315 is worth the money or stick with the high light bill with the 1000?
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A 315 cmh has no where near the coverage and intensity of a 1000 watt hid.

I have the sun system and a Phillips 3100k and I do really like it but it doesn't even compete with my 600 Hortilux Super hps either. Lotta hype that distracts the buyer from the small coverage area with high gram per watt claims.

It covers 2.5 to 3 feet square for flowering. I will use it only as supplemental spectrum to my 600 hps until I can try 3 in place of my 2 600's.

I have found it has the power of maybe 450-500 watt hps but only the coverage area of a 400.

I do really like the natural looking light to work in.

It also is as hot as my air cooled 600 hps but in an open reflector. I did need to add ventilation for it.

Seems growers with multiple overlapping lights are seeing the benefit as a stand alone lamp more to me.

It does increase resin production, frost and color over the hps. And some strains are finishing faster. I really like them paired with the 600.

I have been trying to figure out how to fit it in between my 2 600's. That would add the perfect amount of blue light for flowering and a little uv. If I went with the 4200k bulb even more uv. Even some uvb.
 
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