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Club 315w lec

Discussion in 'Indoor Growing' started by bob223, Mar 31, 2016.

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    medicated00420

    medicated00420 Well-Known Member

    Just swapped out my magnetic 1000hps for a 315cmh and digital 600hps eventually going to replace the 600 and go with 2x315s and 200 watts of cobs on th edges
     
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    Javadog

    Javadog Well-Known Member

    Sound plan. Good luck! :0)
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    I added a 315 to my room with 2 600 super HPS and the results are pretty great so far. I can't do it in the room I am using but if I build a larger space I would go 1 Hortilux super HPS to 1 315 LEC per about 6'x3.5 footprint.

    Right now I am using it as a finishing lamp.

    But The buds in the overlap look the best to me.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    Ok. 315 LEC harvest update. I posted these I. The random pics thread but feel this is important to share with out LEC growers.

    I have never found my plants lower buds lacking structure, density, size or ripeness but both plants removed from the 600 Super HPS side and finishing for 2-3 weeks under the new 315 LEC at even 18" from the canopy had whispy undone loose lowers.

    They were also the tastiest smelliest dankest most potent trippy plants to come out of my garden I am sure due to uv and the missing blue in my spectrum before.

    So........

    Here is the foxtailing Black Widow x BLT I showed a bit back with the tops harvested and lower 1/2 put back under HPS.

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    And here she is about a week later. Left at about 20" from the Hortilux 600 Super HPS.

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    Got plenty of bud growth and a bit of density back. It is an obvious intensity issue and I am sure the 630 fixtures are made to address this issue. But I can't support any more electricity in my growrooms. Or honestly manage more heat or air cooled lamps.

    So I am going to try rotating all plants from the beginning of flower as equally as possible between the lights and hope I keep the benefits of the ceramic metal halide and the Super HPS.

    And that's my honest opinion from what I have seen so far.

    I really want to double up the lamps to even out the light in my room. 2 600HPS and 2 LEC 315.

    Each pair over a 3.5' x 5' footprint. I may rebuild the present room to have the LEC in between the 2 Blockbuster 600's for a 3.5' x 8' footprint.

    But that would not be as ideal for the full spectrum.
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    Here's a nice long pic filled update since I am sure the differences in color and in part the more obvious phenotype expression I am seeing. And more potent interesting pot for sure is growing under the Phillips 3100k 315 LEC.

    I have also been experimenting with lower doses of nutes and a good taper towards the finish and water/nute only when the plants are ready.

    It has cut a third of the fertilizer I thought I needed out. This has happened before. Better roots bigger plants but need less to grow.

    And I have started rotating all the plants equally under both types of lights. And have included the overlap spot which really always seems to be spurring strong plant response.

    Well here is my garden before I closed up.

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    And here is the Citral Pow 33

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    And here is the Headband. All of the colors have come out in 2 days in the overlap then under the LEC only. It was not changing the day before under the super HPS.

    I am keeping this lamp in my room just for the bag appeal. Lol.

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    I would say I am a believer in the 315 LEC for a 2.5' x 2.5' footprint and I am at 16" above the canopy to get the bud growth similar to the 600w Hortilux Super HPS.

    I will continue to combine them. I love my room like this. But I think ideally I would use both lights in a 6' x 3.5' area.

    But I don't have enoufh space or wattage available to try.

    Thanks for the feedback on my install and everything guys.
     
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    ilovetoskiatalta

    ilovetoskiatalta Well-Known Member

    What are the genetics of that Citrsl Pow? I love that plant. How is the effect ?

    Thanks Alta
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    I only grew one of these 2 years ago from a free seed they sent to try. It was very strong full body and head high and a delicious lemony and Hashy flavor.

    But that plant was grown with 2 years less experience and I am really looking forward to this one.

    It is Chitral (land race) x POW (Prisoner of War-Pacific G-13/ Hashplant x Purple Indica ) x Jack 33 ( hash plant, power plant , Jack Herrer, Mazar, and Flower)

    I think this is right. He is not making seeds right now his catalog is missing this one now.

    Correction:

    I forgot that 98 Aloha White Widow was crossed into the Pow33 before the Citral pow.
     
    Last edited: Jan 4, 2017
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    ilovetoskiatalta

    ilovetoskiatalta Well-Known Member

    Can someone give me some info in this Hydrofarm Powerbox?

    https://hydrobuilder.com/6-light-240v-controller-conf.html

    vs.

    https://hydrobuilder.com/combination-240v-120v-conf.html?dzid=strands_DPC-7500-COMBO-CONF

    First off is it Junk?

    Second can this be used for 4 315 smh in 12/12 and then also run 2 lights on a 18/6?

    Does the length of cords from the ballast to the fixture have a limit? Meaning if I ran the 18/6 lights in another room can I only have that cord so many feet?

    Does this have separate timers for the upper and lower sets of plugs?

    https://hydrobuilder.com/powerbox-d...ital-ammeter.html?dzid=strands_DPC-15000-CONF

    Thanks
     
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    Sire Killem All

    Sire Killem All Well-Known Member

    None of those will do what u want. It has 2 outlets that are either on same timer as test or it is always on.
    I use a ,
    http://growershouse.com/titan-controls-helios-8-8-light-controller-240v
    It will let u do what u want.
     
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    Craig1969SS

    Craig1969SS Well-Known Member

    I have to ask, what are they growing in? It looks like a litter box and not a pot. Is it rockwool? Or am I seeing the pictures wrong? Hard to tell. Thanks. BTW I stopped all of the "add on" nutrients last grow. Top ppm is 700 with alternating dynagrow one week and floranova bloom the next. Both are affordable 1 part nutes. Results with daily feedings are far better than with other expensive brands that recommend 3-4 even 5 add ons.
     
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    Sire Killem All

    Sire Killem All Well-Known Member

    Decided to rearrange my room for this next run and try to max my light out put.
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    thccbdhealth

    thccbdhealth Well-Known Member

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    Sire Killem All

    Sire Killem All Well-Known Member

    I would call them and ask about their warranty, it not stated in the page, and their terms say unless stated it would be 30 days. That might be a deciding factor in my opinion, but besides that it don't look bad.
     
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    thccbdhealth

    thccbdhealth Well-Known Member

    I have tried calling, no response, so I fired off an email and see what they have to say

    I asked about the warranty
    if the ballast is LFSW
    and if the optional bulb included, is of Philips.
     
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    thccbdhealth

    thccbdhealth Well-Known Member

    @SireKillemAll
    and to this is the response .

    The warranty is 1 year on the unit and 30 days on the bulb.


    I am not sure how the ballast operates but I will try to find out from the manufacture.


    The bulb isn't a Philips bulb it is just a normal custom made CHM bulb.
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    Here is what happens to the upside down bud on the lowest bent down branch under the LEC on the Citral x POW 33. It is inches from the floor.

    I probably should have staked and tied her up some huh. :-)

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    And here is the garden finally full (for a minute) under the better combined light spectrum.

    Got all kinds of strains going in there. Love the variety. The different flavors and high's are getting better.

    Plants are continually rotated and put in a new location as I water/ feed.

    Here is the HPS side tonight.

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    And the LEC and overlap corner.
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    I love this shit!
     
    Last edited: Jan 12, 2017
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    thccbdhealth

    thccbdhealth Well-Known Member

    is that the sun system fixture with the Philips bulb in it? 4200k?
     
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    Black Thumb

    Black Thumb Well-Known Member

    Ill never switch back to 600 watt these 315s do exactly the same and sometimes more then my 600's did ( yes one 315 is doing = or more then one 600) . half the electricity half the heat.
    Denser, more colors. The frost seems about the same.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    Just wait until you try broad spectrum LED.
     
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    thccbdhealth

    thccbdhealth Well-Known Member

    What have you been trying out since the CMH, some of those QB Board's?
     

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