Club Vert(600)

4 x 2' 8" x 7 is the exact size of the tent. ill snap a pic with the plants in. Dez you got me excited because i have been wanting to go vert for years now.
excuse my tent. im emptying out which is why there is so muuch space. getting ris of the purp n hopefullt pickin up the vert

Here's my first attempt at an overhead view of what my tents may become in an effort to reduce plant count. I'll run the filter in one tent near the ceiling and close the intake vents of that tent so the outside air is pulled through both tents, scrubbed and ten exhaused. I still have two other fans that can effectively cool a 600w cooltube so I'll probably give each light it's own fan to draw air from outside the tents, over the bulbs and then out the top.
RDWC would be my style of choice for it too with each four bucket system having a res outside the tent. I'd put mesh attached to the walls and train the plants into the mesh, like Jig. Should be able to pull four good sized plants every month with this deal I would think.

With a little work this could be made into a tw tier deal and run 8 plants per light, cutting the harvest downtime in half. You would most likely want to run a secod bulb in each tent though to make sur the ones by the ceiling get sufficient light penetration.

With your tent and soil I would get a couple baker's racks and run my plants along the three walls in a mutli level set up. A 600 and a 400, one on top of the other in cooltubes in the center. I you only have the one fan to exhaust, mount the filter to the ceiling with the flange pointed down and hook your ducting and cooltubes to it with the fan near the floor. This is so it pulls the hot air through the filter, over the lights and then out a side vent at the bottom and away from the tent. You could have two or three tiers of plants and get some great results in that space.

Dezracer said:

With your tent and soil I would get a couple baker's racks and run my plants along the three walls in a mutli level set up. A 600 and a 400, one on top of the other in cooltubes in the center. I you only have the one fan to exhaust, mount the filter to the ceiling with the flange pointed down and hook your ducting and cooltubes to it with the fan near the floor. This is so it pulls the hot air through the filter, over the lights and then out a side vent at the bottom and away from the tent. You could have two or three tiers of plants and get some great results in that space.

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that sounds real good,more good info.

Never heard of this method. Could someone please explain the benefits and draw backs

One benefit is a better use of available space. My closet is 2' x 3' and about 9 feet high. If I grew horizontal I would be using about 6 square feet of canopy space. Growing vertically I am using more like 25 square feet. I don't know of any drawbacks.

Awesome thanks for the info. This technique never even crossed my mind.

i'm probably gonna need another fa for this. sweet info dez hope you healing up good man. thx

thanks TGSS and yes, so far so good. I thought I would be back to work on thursday but the dr said monday so that's when I'm back to work.

I had a hard time sleeping last night with the shoulder and I ended up coming up with an awesome way to use my space for a vertical grow that will be perpetual and still give me some great yields. I'm going to totally bite Jig's grow but I'm sure he won't mind
I'm thinking I'm going to move my buckets around and set them up like my drawing but am going to use one tent for veg and have two systems in the other that are spaced four weeks apart. Four buckets to veg four plants for four weeks while training them into screens that are attached to the bucket lids so they can be moved from the veg bucket to a flower bucket where I'll strap the top of the screens to the ceiling. I'll try to keep to eight week strains and pull four plants every month. I just need my buddy to come over now to help me get shit moved around so I can get started training some into a screen. I'll put up pics of it once it's done.

Woohoo, back to vert!!

Anyone think I could barebulb a 600 in a vert 3x3? 6 feet - fan space for height. 465 cfm blower, already have equipment and am confined to this space. would I be better off going horizontal? Have a bake a round cooltube possible but lot of people say the glass will rob of lumens

genuity said:

not bad at all,what strains you got going?

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Anyone think I could barebulb a 600 in a vert 3x3? 6 feet - fan space for height. 465 cfm blower, already have equipment and am confined to this space. would I be better off going horizontal? Have a bake a round cooltube possible but lot of people say the glass will rob of lumens

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I don't know if you could get away with that. If you ran the bulb right down the middle of the space, it would probably light bleach a lot of the buds. And that's before you even think about heat (which will be pretty massive). Maybe if you stuck the light in one corner, but I don't see the point in that. I think if you are going to try bare bulb you will need the 6 feet of height to get the bulb far enough away to not cause heat or light damage. In my book bare bulbs are a luxury people with much larger spaces get to use.

I couldn't agree more with that. You would most likely need to run AC inside the tent to make it work and the bulb pretty high off the floor.

That bake a round would solve the issue though. What is the diameter of the bake a round?
I had thought of buying them before but wasn't sure of the diameter so got regular cool tubes. I need a couple cool tubes now though and don't really want to drop $150+ on them. My brother bwon't trade me for my kick arse hood because he says he wants to run both 600s in his little room and my hood is made for a single bulb.

Would it be possible to hang the 600 vertical for the lower levels of racks and then have the 400 horizontal over the 600 cooltube getting the top and adding suplemental light?

I think as long as the vertically hung light is in some sort of cooltube it should be fine but I can't say for sure that the temps would stay where you need them with both lights in the 3x3. With that high CFM fan, I would think you'd be fine.
I'm off to get a new cooltube so I can get cracking on this.

Later

light bleach your kidding me right lol, mine are right down the middle, and doing great
1k's though

bake a rounds are only like 4 inches diameter, gonna be tight with a big 600 bulb in there, cooltubes u can buy are 6 I believe and probably better

Yeah you can get 6" or 8" cooltubes and I picked up a 6" one today to get back to vertical growing.

And no, we're not kidding about light bleaching your plants. Your setup appears to work for you but I have had plants get light bleached or burnt or whatever you want to call it. It was typically with 1000s but I even have had a couple with 600s too when under a horizontal cooltube with no diffuser in it.

i like getting free UVB, without the glass filter

DOWN WITH GLASS FILTERS

my room is my HOOD

Very cool and I too would run bare bulba if I could get awaywith it. I just don't have AC anymore so I need to cool the bulbs or the tents get too hot, even with co2 allowing for higher temps it is too hot.

I'm going to be starting four plants in the four bucket RDWC vertical soon and once they are four weeks into 12/12 there will be the next stage going in between and above the first four. A bucket in each corner for the first four and then the second four will be one on each side wall, between the other buckets but 18" higher.
One 40x40 tent to veg the plants vertically into screens, one to flower them vertically and a 2x4 for mothers, clones and seedlings.

I would love to run a vertical octagon with a bare bulb though, like Heath Robinson.