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Coco Growers Unite!

Discussion in 'Drain-To-Waste Hydro' started by Masterofgenetics, Feb 18, 2009.

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    Skunk Baxter

    Skunk Baxter Well-Known Member

    Ralph B. rocks. I love the guy. I always wonder which poster he is here....
     
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    Abucks

    Abucks Well-Known Member

    I definitely would like to know.
     
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    ODanksta

    ODanksta Well-Known Member

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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

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    THE KONASSURE

    THE KONASSURE Well-Known Member

    I like to mix perlite in my coco of course

    but does anyone add water retaining gel ?

    I was thinking to make up a gel of bennies and mycorr maybe mix it with some perlite and add it to the area just under where the plant would sit when I transfer into our finishing sacks

    think that`ll make the plants grow better or is the gel just going to make a nice extra damp area for bugs and root rot to thrive ?
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    No reason to. Coco coir retains water well.
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    Mix it up with sphagnum and yucca. Seems to work well.
     
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    Skunk Baxter

    Skunk Baxter Well-Known Member

    What's the advantage to mixing it with gel? The more you mix shit in with the coco, the more you might as well not be using coco at all. To me, coco is already the perfect medium. When properly textured, it's the perfect balance between good drainage, good oxygenation, and good moisture retention. What is it that needs fixing?
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    I didn't mean in any majority. I just meant like 50-25-25 or 70-15-15.
     
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    Skunk Baxter

    Skunk Baxter Well-Known Member

    Oh, I know. I'm referring mostly to water retention gels. A lot of people are going to tweak their preferred medium or growing method to suit their own personal preferences, but at some point it becomes counterproductive. Gotta know when to quit. I think water retention gels are a step or two too far, but - well, to each their own. I just wouldn't do it.
     
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    Olive Drab Green

    Olive Drab Green Well-Known Member

    Don't use it in Coco. Really not necessary. I also grow organically, so I'm probably biased.
     
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    heyguys

    heyguys Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't believe that the nutrients would kill beneficial as long as you are NOT over feeding and have tons of salt buildup. I use great white in coco. First time I use it I wait until the seedling/clone has a decent root structure forming, then I mix the great white into a solution instead of sprinkling on top of the coco. Then the second use is a week later when I transplant from solo cups. I'll sprinkle it directly around the root ball at transplant, and the roots absolutely blow the hell up doing this. Key with any beneficial is to make sure you are using reverse osmosis water. I've used great white with tap that has sit out, but I still don't trust tap. I always see roots at the bottoms of the pots a bit sooner when using beneficials...they absolutely love coco, it's so gentle to your roots!

    Make sure to re-enoculate every two weeks after those first two applications. I use it up until week two of flower.

    Also wanted to go off topic a bit and say that I've been using General Hydroponic Cocotek nutrients this run and I've gotta say that they are working very well. Not sure how many of you guys have tried them, but they work!
     
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    gr865

    gr865 Well-Known Member

    SB, and example of over done, buddy planted shrubs all around the patio at his golf course, the guys doing the planting did not listen to how they were supposed to use the retention gels and they just poured some in the bottom of the holes for each plant. That night he watered and when they came to work the next day every one of the plants were pushed out of the ground by the gel and the hole was full of gel. LOL
    I do not believe he wants to use that in coco. As you said to each his own!
     
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    gr865

    gr865 Well-Known Member

    Happy Hump Day, 4/20/16!
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    And what a lovely 420 it is.

    To sort of quote a line from a great movie!

    "I love the smell of Exodus Cheese in the morning!"
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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    Hey whats the numbers on that gh cocotek nutrients? The grow and the bloom? Whats tye dilution rate to hit target ec?
     
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    Aeroknow

    Aeroknow Well-Known Member

    I have some sample bottles up on the shelf. I just put 5ml of Bloom A and 5ml of Bloom B into a gallon.
    1.1EC
    Pretty typical for most GH liquid base nutes, excluding the floranova.
     
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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    Do they have any minimum analysis numbers? Like n p k and cal and mag numbers? 550 ppm is prettt good for just a tspn each per gallon. Sounds like just a tspn and a half would put me in the sweet spot. Do y9u notice any humics in one of the parts? Dark colored?
     
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    Aeroknow

    Aeroknow Well-Known Member

    The part A is on the left
    image.jpeg
    not sure about the humic. A looks dark like calmag, and the B is clear.
     
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    since1991

    since1991 Well-Known Member

    Probably wouldnt need a cal mag with it. And 2 forms of chelated iron. Looks good. More mag than Canna too. I wonder if its cheaper than canna coco a & b. Iam gonna check this out. The high potassium is a little scary for coco coir but i can get around that. Most brands of coir is buffered for that high potassium release.
     

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