colours recommended by cidly

Idk, I see where both you guys are coming from. GPW measurement is much easier on tall plants which have potentially longer veg times than SoG or something. kWh might be the ideal measurement.

I think fat stinky buds are the best measure. The super efficient panels never really impressed me much. I don't mind wasting a few watts if quality goes up. I think it's an easy way for companies to avoid building more expensive,better spectrums. Hey look! I did a gpw! Yippee! Lol...

not saying gpw isn't important, just far from everything

when i asked for 5000k and 2700-3000k the seller tells me... "2700K-18000K, from warm white to cool white, the range you mentioned is included in this range".
Im pretty sure 2700k-18000k would be waste.

although im now dealing through a middle man who orders through Cidly as my money is in an account at http://www.dhgate.com

do cidly sell these whites or does the seller have less idea than me
please help im in second week of flower and my current light isnt big enough

Word is, the aquarium model from Cidly is much better quality and can have more white leds at roughly the same cost

bouncin, the seller has no idea. Are those words from Cidly or the middleman on dhgate? 2700k-18000k is just the range they offer, one white led has one color temp

Lowdown Lenny said:

bouncin, the seller has no idea. Are those words from Cidly or the middleman on dhgate? 2700k-18000k is just the range they offer, one white led has one color temp

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thats what the middle man tells me..."1 colour temp for one white led" makes a bit more sense now. does anyone know what temps are available from cidly?

hyroot said:

if getting an apollo get the aquarium model. You can run more whites.
12 leds per module

x2 630
x2 660
x5 2700k -3000k
x3 5000k

I used to have an apollo 10 grow.

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ok so another seller tells me i can choose from 630.660.460.430.585.6500.5500.2700.3000.12000.410.850.410.
would this be just as good
x2 630
x2 660
x2 2700k?
x3 3000k?
x3 5500k?

bouncin said:

ok so another seller tells me i can choose from 630.660.460.430.585.6500.5500.2700.3000.12000.410.850.410.
would this be just as good
x2 630
x2 660
x2 2700k?
x3 3000k?
x3 5500k?

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go with

x2 630
x2 660
x5 2700k
x3 5500k

you want more red with the 2700k to balance out the more blue coming from the 5500k. , the 5500k is to help during veg....

Well, I'd prefer the grow model, I am 100% sure cidly can do 6pcs white or blue LEDs at each cluster for the grow model, in this way I would like 6 white and 9 red LEDs.

LEDmania said:

Well, I'd prefer the grow model, I am 100% sure cidly can do 6pcs white or blue LEDs at each cluster for the grow model, in this way I would like 6 white and 9 red LEDs.

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they can only do 5 white or blue. Even with 6 that's still too much red. There's red in the whites too. The leds and drivers on the grows are maxed out 700mA. The aquas have more drivers and running at 1450mA. The whites and blues run at a higher votage. Adding reds will lower the wattage so they are driven softer. That will make them run longer and having more whites will produce a higher par rating.

hyroot said:

they can only do 5 white or blue. Even with 6 that's still too much red. There's red in the whites too. The leds and drivers on the grows are maxed out 700mA. The aquas have more drivers and running at 1450mA. The whites and blues run at a higher votage. Adding reds will lower the wattage so they are driven softer. That will make them run longer and having more whites will produce a higher par rating.

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700mA is input current, there is nothing related with input voltage, they have upgraded their LED driver, each outlet only outputs 700mA, so if one cluster burns, the other clusters will never be affected. They have also updated their technology and can do 6-7pcs white or blue LEDs at each cluster.
And by the way, there is never too much red for flowering weeds. Finally, the more watt, the more PAR rating.

Depends on your definition of 'red'.

Red can be overdone when the entire red spectrum is not being used in balance to what mj can use.

Most strains need little to no 660, and yet many panels are heavily 660: 630-650 is far more important say ~ 9:1

LEDmania said:

700mA is input current, there is nothing related with input voltage, they have upgraded their LED driver, each outlet only outputs 700mA, so if one cluster burns, the other clusters will never be affected. They have also updated their technology and can do 6-7pcs white or blue LEDs at each cluster.
And by the way, there is never too much red for flowering weeds. Finally, the more watt, the more PAR rating.

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PetFlora said:

Depends on your definition of 'red'.

Red can be overdone when the entire red spectrum is not being used in balance to what mj can use.

Most strains need little to no 660, and yet many panels are heavily 660: 630-650 is far more important say ~ 9:1

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Sure~ and most Apollo LED grow lights growers at this site got great results even their spectrum ratio is very simple or unknow...
Based on the PAR meters data, the LED grow light has a higher PAR reading while with majority red 630nm than majority 660nm.

Well we will find out with hard evidence if 660 is any good or not. I reviewed many grows and many opinions before deciding on 660nm.

the xmls have quite a bit of 630 in their spectral chart. Yet bud size and fill still seemed a little lacking. Don't get me wrong, you could be absolutely right, 660 could be a waste or even a hindrance. But I want to see for myself before I come to a conclusion

As I stated, it can be strain dependent. Neither of mine responded well, neither did it hold them back, but I also had a lot of 630-650

Positivity said:

Well we will find out with hard evidence if 660 is any good or not. I reviewed many grows and many opinions before deciding on 660nm.

the xmls have quite a bit of 630 in their spectral chart. Yet bud size and fill still seemed a little lacking. Don't get me wrong, you could be absolutely right, 660 could be a waste or even a hindrance. But I want to see for myself before I come to a conclusion

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I think it also has to do with: Whatever light.. cannabis can get...it will take' I have grown in a cool white (dominant) LED grow before. (with a side in warm whites) and it did ok...not great (0.5 gpw) (1st led grow)

Obviously there are limits: a high green spectrum (with little other spectrum) light wont grow shit.