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Cornel West Isn't Impressed With Barack Obama, Either

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ttystikk, Jan 2, 2018.

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    trippnface

    trippnface Well-Known Member

    Absolute badass.

    Nothing more revealing that a child of holocaust survivors speaking out against jewish oppression.

    Way over these guys heads though.
     
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    trippnface

    trippnface Well-Known Member

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    dagwood45431

    dagwood45431 Well-Known Member

    Suitcase packed full of lies.
     
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    Heil Tweetler

    Heil Tweetler Well-Known Member

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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    You were claiming that you didn't know any people who were racist and that the people you talked to voted for Trump for reasons other than his racist rhetoric.

    So, I asked you a question. If you answer it truthfully your answer would help me understand where you are coming from.

    I'll ask again,

    Yes or no,

    Most black people in the US experience hardship due to prejudice against their skin color.
     
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    trippnface

    trippnface Well-Known Member

    Do MOST?

    No. The early 1900's are over . Some Do. I don't think it's more than Arab Muslims though.
     
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    dagwood45431

    dagwood45431 Well-Known Member

    You're right. Most don't. ALL DO. In one way or another.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    OK, so I know where you are coming from.

    I can now regard your posts as something that comes from a racist leaning person. The question I asked came from that article I linked to. The yes or no question -- "Do most black people the the US experience hardship due to prejudice against their skin color" is a classic test for how a person views racism in the US. There are other questions used in detailed surveys but that one pretty much says it all.

    More than 55% of all white people in the US answer as you do, which was "no". More than 85% of black people answer "yes". They are the experts on this wouldn't you think? Empirical data regarding housing, wages, stress related health issues and job opportunities back up the answers that most black people give.

    Regarding Arab Muslims, I wouldn't be surprised if there were similar issues.

    That you answered yes doesn't mean you are necessarily a full blown flag waving nazi but it does lump you in with most Trump voters who either are nazis or have racist tendencies. Small wonder that you don't see them as racist.
     
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    socalcoolmx

    socalcoolmx Well-Known Member

    This is a flat out lie
     
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    trippnface

    trippnface Well-Known Member



    Some Black indididuals may experience hardships for their skin color. All of them? I don't think so. More hadrship( over their skin color) than a White individual? Sure.

    MOST of them, experiencing hardship for their skin color? I don't think so. Perhaps decades of previous institionalized State racism was indeed a cause to most Blacks recieving hardship, and Culturally, many hardships are still seen as racist, when in reality, they are Classist?

    All of them are definitely oppressed economically and legally. Just like all Whites are, and all Mexicans, etc.


    50 + years ago, I would agree with you. There is nothing that I would still consider insitutionalized racism targeting specifically blacks, though. All Cultures & Races are experiencing hardships is America. Unjust laws & unjust economic practices are felt by all Americans.

    The way the false left attempts to create race wars through race divison is really sickening.
     
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    trippnface

    trippnface Well-Known Member


    Yeah, the massive list of quotes supporting the genocide of Palestinians, from multiple Israeli state officials would indicate otherwise.

    Not like those here are interested in the truth, though.
     
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    Heil Tweetler

    Heil Tweetler Well-Known Member

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    Youre a fucking babbling, incoherent gas bag. Another hobbled half wit, uneducated, bigoted and defiantly certain that your struggleville born musings merit a discussion. Gtfoh bone spur breath.
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    What you said in your post only reveals your belief and is not based on any facts or evidence. There is plenty of evidence of the effects of institutional racism and daily insults given to black people by whites. That you are unaware of this is an indication of your ignorance. Our education system failed you, apparently.

    As I said, your replies give me an understanding of why you would say that you don't know any racists. Better put, you don't know anybody who is openly more racist than you. Because you don't see your own bias, you see no bias at all.

    What you call "the false left" -- people who support racial justice and equality are the left, dumbshit. You are a fake leftist. You never talk about left-side economic policy, just conservative anti-semitic and now racist-leaning sentiment toward black people. Also conspiracy theories where "the man" is holding everybody down.

    Your tendencies towards conspiracy theories, antisemitic and racist belief are consistent with findings by social researchers. There is a pattern today of people who call themselves "the left" being subverted by propaganda and conspiracy theories of the fascist right. Scapegoating, racism and antisemitism are all examples of the tools being used today that were borrowed from fascist movements of the 1900's. For example:

    https://www.politicalresearch.org/1999/02/27/right-woos-left/#PainfulTask

    POPULIST PARTY, LAROUCHITE, AND OTHER NEO-FASCIST OVERTURES TO PROGRESSIVES, AND WHY THEY MUST BE REJECTED
    an excerpt:

    In part, the fascist right has been able to forge ties to the left due to a serious lack of knowledge on the left regarding the complex history, different forms, and multiple tactics of fascism. Among those tactics are the use of scapegoating, reductionist and simplistic solutions, demagoguery, and a conspiracy theory of history.7 Fascists have historically used radical-sounding or populist appeals and adopted themes opportunistically from socialism and the labor movement, and then mixed those themes with theories of nationalism and racial pride. Nazi, after all, is an abbreviated acronym of the National Socialist German Workers Party.

    In addition, there are a variety of forms of populism, some progressive, some regressive and dictatorial. Margaret Canovan in her study of populism describes two main branches of populism and seven sub-variants. Agrarian populism includes movements of farmers, movements of peasants, and movements of intellectuals who romanticize farmers and peasants. Political populism includes populist democracy, populist dictatorship, reactionary populism, and politician’s populism. Weimar Germany shows that middle-class populists in Weimar launched bitter attacks against both the government and big business. This populist surge was later harvested by the Nazi movement which parasitized the forms and themes of the reactionary populists and moved their constituencies far to the right through demagoguery and scapegoating.8
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    no
     
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    see4

    see4 Well-Known Member

    100 miles north of retarded.
     
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    socalcoolmx

    socalcoolmx Well-Known Member

    israel doesn't support the extermination of palestine
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    yes
     
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    socalcoolmx

    socalcoolmx Well-Known Member

    Israel is being investigated for war crimes right now
     
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    socalcoolmx

    socalcoolmx Well-Known Member

    Do you think the citizens of Nazi Germany were responsible for the Nazi's crimes?
    How about the Israeli citizens are they responsible for their governments actions?
     
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    Fogdog

    Fogdog Well-Known Member

    I don't accept any responsibility for what Trump does. Do you?
     

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